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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    CNN would say that, they’re just the inverse of Fox News.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...ons-on-russia/

    Here’s some more info.
    CNN are miles more reputable than Fox imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    CNN are miles more reputable than Fox imo.
    100 percent. Largely quality journos…no comparison with the deep agenda driven content from Fox …

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    100 percent. Largely quality journos…no comparison with the deep agenda driven content from Fox …
    I agree. I think the likes of CNN are lightweight, bubble gum news as a consequence of American commercialism and the battle for ratings. It isn't hard-hitting journalism; for example, you will never see any substantive criticism on Israel on any of the major networks. That said, it isn't just a mirror image of Fox. That channel has done enormous damage to politics in America as a weaponised mouthpiece for the most unsavoury aspects of the Republican Party. The likes of Tucker Carlson are not trained journalists, they are partisan political operatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    100 percent. Largely quality journos…no comparison with the deep agenda driven content from Fox …
    Absolutely the Russell Crowe series The Loudest Voice said it all about Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Absolutely the Russell Crowe series The Loudest Voice said it all about Fox.
    That was brilliant. Vile man and vile network

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    That was brilliant. Vile man and vile network
    Yes despicable

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    Fox helps things like this

    https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/s...84014519111681

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    Dozens of members of a white supremacist group were arrested on Saturday in Idaho before they could act on plans to riot at a local Pride event, police said. An apparent leader of the group had a seven-page document outlining a plan in extensive detail.

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    U.S. President Joe #Biden will be running for a second term, reports White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I didn’t realise you could do such things from the afterlife.

    I wonder if my granny could rustle up some rum truffles and send them through the same portal Biden will use?

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    One of the big highlights for me yesterday was Trump scamming his supporters post-election for $250 million for a 'fighting fund' to overturn the 'stolen election'. Of course there was no such campaign and Donnie trousered the lot. He just can't help himself, an incorrigible swindler.
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    Can see a us recession pretty soon.

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    The Dow Jones Industrial Average $DJIA falls over 700 points, falling below 30,000 hitting session lows, as stock losses accelerate amid renewed recession concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Can see a us recession pretty soon.

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    The Dow Jones Industrial Average $DJIA falls over 700 points, falling below 30,000 hitting session lows, as stock losses accelerate amid renewed recession concerns
    Bring back Donnie. This would never have happened had but for a stolen election
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Bring back Donnie. This would never have happened had but for a stolen election
    Not worth baring thinking about, then again republicans are favourites for the next election so sadly maybe it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    I agree. I think the likes of CNN are lightweight, bubble gum news as a consequence of American commercialism and the battle for ratings. It isn't hard-hitting journalism; for example, you will never see any substantive criticism on Israel on any of the major networks. That said, it isn't just a mirror image of Fox. That channel has done enormous damage to politics in America as a weaponised mouthpiece for the most unsavoury aspects of the Republican Party. The likes of Tucker Carlson are not trained journalists, they are partisan political operatives.

    Criticism of Israel? In the US?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Criticism of Israel? In the US?


    Or in the labour party now..

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    Wow

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    Former President Trump says he's "very, very seriously" considering pardoning 1/6 defendants if reelected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Wow

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    Former President Trump says he's "very, very seriously" considering pardoning 1/6 defendants if reelected
    He will struggle to get re-elected from jail.
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    A consequence of Trump getting three Supreme Court picks: strike down laws that haven't even been passed yet. That way you get to ensure, amongst other things, the environment is trashed. An idea Brett 'accused sex offender' Kavanaugh has been pushing.

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    The New Republicans are now way to the right of Le Pen’s party in France. Repeal the 1965 Voting Rights Act, Biden is not the legitimate president, leave the UN, gays are all abnormal.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...ight-positions

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    As expected, Roe v Wade overturned by the hard right Supreme Court. Abortion will now be an issue for each state to decide for itself, reversing fifty years of guaranteed reproductive rights for women. A very sad day, and, IMHO, this is motivated by the anti-women's rights agenda of the Republican right wing. Of course they claim they are protecting the unborn, but the religious right is deeply misogynistic. They are not only anti-civil rights, anti-LGBT, anti-worker, anti-environmental protections; their war against women has been part of their platform for decades. Women must be controlled and punished, and removing reproductive rights is a key component of that. Trump's three hard-line right wing appointees are determined to roll back progressive reforms. Only two days ago it overturned the decision of the New York SC on guns, thus making carrying guns in public a protected right.

    Women in Republican controlled states will now have to cross state lanes and enter Democratic states to get an abortion. Those who can't afford it, well, will it back to the days of the back street abortionists? It will be interesting to see how laws are changed in Republican states regarding criminal prosecution of women and doctors found to be breaking the law, once abortion is outlawed. No doubt at least some states will outlaw abortion in all cases, including for pregnancies resulting from rape and incest, which will have a huge impact upon women's mental health.

    What a warped society, where controlling a woman's reproductive rights is deemed more important than controlling children being massacred in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    The New Republicans are now way to the right of Le Pen’s party in France. Repeal the 1965 Voting Rights Act, Biden is not the legitimate president, leave the UN, gays are all abnormal.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...ight-positions
    They absolutely are. It's a lunatic party: authoritarian, anti-democratic, intolerant, anti-science, conspiratorial. It's a process that has taken several decades to reach this point. It began really in the late 1970s, when the religious right started to push their agenda within the party. Reagan put that process on steroids, and now there is no place for moderate centre-right discussion; the GOP is an insane asylum of crackpot thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    As expected, Roe v Wade overturned by the hard right Supreme Court. Abortion will now be an issue for each state to decide for itself, reversing fifty years of guaranteed reproductive rights for women. A very sad day, and, IMHO, this is motivated by the anti-women's rights agenda of the Republican right wing. Of course they claim they are protecting the unborn, but the religious right is deeply misogynistic. They are not only anti-civil rights, anti-LGBT and anti-worker, anti-environmental protections; their war women has been part of their platform for decades. Women must be controlled and punished, and removing reproductive rights is a key component of that. Trump's three hard-line right wing appointees are determined to roll back progressive reforms. Only two days ago it overturned the decision of the New York SC on guns, thus making carrying guns in public a protected right.

    Women in Republican controlled states will now have to cross state lanes and enter Democratic states to get an abortion. Those who can't afford it, well, will it back to the days of the back street abortionists? It will be interesting to see how laws are changed in Republican states regarding criminal prosecution of women and doctors found to be breaking the law, once abortion is outlawed. No doubt at least some states will outlaw abortion in all cases, including for pregnancies resulting from rape and incest, which will have a huge impact upon women's mental health.

    What a warped society, where controlling a woman's reproductive rights is deemed more important than controlling children being massacred in school.

    Justice Clarence Thomas (the most openly conservatives of the lot) already suggesting that other Supreme Court decisions could be re-evaluated, same-sex marriage and contraception safeguarding.

    Just one more step towards America becoming the “Christian” Saudi Arabia

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    America needs to get a grip though. They need to stop relying on judges interpreting a 250 year old document. If they want to ban guns, or legalise abortion then they need to vote for it and get it passed into law. There is a majority for both in the US but they need to start voting for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    Justice Clarence Thomas (the most openly conservatives of the lot) already suggesting that other Supreme Court decisions could be re-evaluated, same-sex marriage and contraception safeguarding.

    Just one more step towards America becoming the “Christian” Saudi Arabia
    Contraception is definitely in their firing line; many GOP politicians are open about that. Women should only have sex within marriage and for reproduction; it's a return to the nineteenth century.

    I think it's also worth pointing out that ALL Republican appointed SC Justices, when asked by Congress during their nomination hearings, said they supported Roe v Wade as settled law. Furthermore, as 'conservatives' they couldn't envisage overturning settled precedent. Of course, the likes of Thomas, Coney-Barrett, Alito and Kavanaugh are not conservatives but are very radical right wingers, filled with religious fundamentalism.

    This is why control of the SC matters so much. Republicans know they can only get a majority in the House by gerrymandering districts. They can only get control of the Senate because tiny rural states (Republican) get two senators, same as Democratic states with hue populations. The demographics are against them, thus appointing right wing Justices ensures they control one branch of government for decades. That's why Republicans blocked Obama's pick, Merrick Garland, for eleven months but rushed through Trump's three picks whilst they controlled Congress.
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    Missouri has already blanket banned abortion. In ALL cases.

    Glad I live in NJ where a women's right to choose is encoded in state law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    Missouri has already blanket banned abortion. In ALL cases.

    Glad I live in NJ where a women's right to choose is encoded in state law.
    Which will include thirteen year old girls raped by a family member, forced to give birth. What a country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Which will include thirteen year old girls raped by a family member, forced to give birth. What a country.
    Indeed it does.

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    Indeed it does.
    Hard to imagine. It's lunacy and savagery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    Missouri has already blanket banned abortion. In ALL cases.

    Glad I live in NJ where a women's right to choose is encoded in state law.
    I worked in New Orleans for a month or so in my twenties, loved the place. It’s beyond belief that now Pakistan has more liberal abortion laws than Louisiana, one of the states that have now rushed to criminalise, and now as a dad with teenage daughters I would just never consider living there again. We talk about what’s happened to America a lot on here but I just have this massive feeling of sadness on a personal level.

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    So the decision on abortion has been handed back to the states and therefore the people. The way it should have been all along. This isn’t a ban on abortion, if the people who live in each state want it, they will vote for those who will give them it.

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