2022-23 season non-Hibs games thread

[Sylar]

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If he was onside it was definitely a penalty. Guy did clip him

No he didn't - Kane trips himself as he steps through, and the ball was long gone.

That's never a penalty.

[The Harp Awakes]

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No he didn't - Kane trips himself as he steps through, and the ball was long gone.

That's never a penalty.

Correct. Kane kicked his own foot.

[04Sauzee]

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No he didn't - Kane trips himself as he steps through, and the ball was long gone.

That's never a penalty.

Can't see how it was given looked like he tripped himself up

[JimBHibees]

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Correct. Kane kicked his own foot.

German caught him imo. Not sure whether he was offside but assume he was deemed not interfering initially

[Onion]

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Could someone explain how that was a penalty. He looked offside and he tripped over his own feet. if that’s what var brings to the game then it’s got to be be binned in Scotland.

C4's in-depth analysis of Kane's usual chuck-himself-to-the-ground was impressive. I'm sure C4's team will pick the bones out of it.

Just seeing it again, at least 1/2 yd offside.

[MWHIBBIES]

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No he didn't - Kane trips himself as he steps through, and the ball was long gone.

That's never a penalty.

Yes, he tripped himself after contact from the defender. He didn't just kick his own leg

[Jim44]

The useless biased English pundits claiming it was a clear penalty but not a word was said about Kane being clearly offside.

[eastterrace]

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C4's in-depth analysis of Kane's usual chuck-himself-to-the-ground was impressive. I'm sure C4's team will pick the bones out of it.

Just seeing it again, at least 1/2 yd offside.

sorry joe Cole says it’s a definite penalty so we are all wrong.

[Sylar]

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Yes, he tripped himself after contact from the defender. He didn't just kick his own leg

Beg to differ, it happens all the time - it's clear his foot kicks the back of his other leg as he tries to adjust himself in getting to the ball (after it was well away from the pair of them).

If that's a penalty (assuming we're just ignoring that he's blatantly offside anyway), the game is truly done.

[Onion]

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The useless biased English pundits claiming it was a clear penalty but not a word was said about Kane being clearly offside.

Of course he was off side. The usual analysis that goes into these marginal decisions conveniently ignored as there is only one conclusion. C4 are only interested in smiles, flowers and ignore that rules if it interferes with the message

[RyeSloan]

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Of course he was off side. The usual analysis that goes into these marginal decisions conveniently ignored as there is only one conclusion. C4 are only interested in smiles, flowers and ignore that rules if it interferes with the message

Genuinely awful ‘analysis’ there.

Squeezed in between a ton of adverts of course.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Beg to differ, it happens all the time - it's clear his foot kicks the back of his other leg as he tries to adjust himself in getting to the ball (after it was well away from the pair of them).

If that's a penalty (assuming we're just ignoring that he's blatantly offside anyway), the game is truly done.

Yes, he kicks himself after the German player hits him.

[PaulSmith]

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The useless biased English pundits claiming it was a clear penalty but not a word was said about Kane being clearly offside.

That’s cause there was no offside offence ;)

[eastterrace]

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That’s cause there was no offside offence ;)

so what your saying he wasn’t standing in a offside position when the ball was kicked. Okay it might have come off a German player but he was in a offside position gaining an advantage , then he goes down like a sack o tatties tripping over his own feet and gets a pen. The games goosed.

[PaulSmith]

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so what your saying he wasn’t standing in a offside position when the ball was kicked. Okay it might have come off a German player but he was in a offside position gaining an advantage , then he goes down like a sack o tatties tripping over his own feet and gets a pen. The games goosed.

Nope, I’m saying he was in an offside position but didn’t commit an offside offence by touching the ball.

Therefore if he’s not touched the ball and been fouled then a penalty is correct.

If he touched the ball, or impeded and opponent which prevented them playing the ball, then no penalty.

If he scores then no goal as he’s committed an offence.

[Jim44]

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That’s cause there was no offside offence ;)

Only in your opinion.

[PaulSmith]

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Only in your opinion.

I’ve explained the laws of the game in the post above. Not sure what else I can do to help.

If you think he committed an offside offence why did two of Europes elite refs give a pen after watching it several times.. the reason being is that they know the rules.

[Onion]

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Nope, I’m saying he was in an offside position but didn’t commit an offside offence by touching the ball.

Therefore if he’s not touched the ball and been fouled then a penalty is correct.

If he touched the ball, or impeded and opponent which prevented them playing the ball, then no penalty.

If he scores then no goal as he’s committed an offence.

He's awarded a penalty because he was impeded and prevented from committing the offence of being offside This place is a madhouse.

[RyeSloan]

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Nope, I’m saying he was in an offside position but didn’t commit an offside offence by touching the ball.

Therefore if he’s not touched the ball and been fouled then a penalty is correct.

If he touched the ball, or impeded and opponent which prevented them playing the ball, then no penalty.

If he scores then no goal as he’s committed an offence.

Good point well made.

Still think it’s soft as considering the next actions but offside it probably wasn’t considering the above.

[Sir David Gray]

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What's this competition for? I honestly am losing track?

The Nations League is another avenue for three teams to qualify for Euro 2024 that don't qualify through the normal qualifying campaign - it's the competition that allowed Scotland to qualify for Euro 2020. The winners of Leagues A, B and C (out of the teams that haven't qualified automatically through the conventional route) will qualify for Euro 2024.

If the winners of any of the Nations League groups have already qualified for Euro 2024 their place will go to the next best team that hasn't qualified.

There's play offs taking place in March 2024 which will determine the final three teams to qualify for Euro 2024.

There's also a Nations League Finals which will be played in June 2023, this is contested between the four group winners from League A and will consist of two semi finals, a third place play off and a final.

Winning Leagues B, C and D will result in promotion to the next group up for the next edition of the Nations League and finishing bottom of Leagues A, B and C will result in relegation to the next group down.

Scotland's currently in League B along with Armenia, Ireland and Ukraine.

[RyeSloan]

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The Nations League is another avenue for three teams to qualify for Euro 2024 that don't qualify through the normal qualifying campaign - it's the competition that allowed Scotland to qualify for Euro 2020. The winners of Leagues A, B and C (out of the teams that haven't qualified automatically through the conventional route) will qualify for Euro 2024.

If the winners of any of the Nations League groups have already qualified for Euro 2024 their place will go to the next best team that hasn't qualified.

There's play offs taking place in March 2024 which will determine the final three teams to qualify for Euro 2024.

There's also a Nations League Finals which will be played in June 2023, this is contested between the four group winners from League A and will consist of two semi finals, a third place play off and a final.

Winning Leagues B, C and D will result in promotion to the next group up for the next edition of the Nations League and finishing bottom of Leagues A, B and C will result in relegation to the next group down.

Scotland's currently in League B along with Armenia, Ireland and Ukraine.

How does the winner of the leagues get decided when there is 4 groups in each league?

[cameronw-hfc]

Aussie twitter asking who tonight Motm is, peep the comments. Half of me is happy for him, other half is gutted he's gone. What a player.

https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status...DVh2d8YVw&s=19

[Sir David Gray]

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How does the winner of the leagues get decided when there is 4 groups in each league?

The four winners of each group (or the best team that hasn't already qualified for Euro 2024 through the normal qualifying route) within each league go forward to the play offs. There's then two semis and a final for each league from A-C and the winners of each final is each group's (A-C) representative in Euro 2024.

[Kato]

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I’ve explained the laws of the game in the post above. Not sure what else I can do to help.

If you think he committed an offside offence why did two of Europes elite refs give a pen after watching it several times.. the reason being is that they know the rules.

You have a good point, Paul.

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[heretoday]

Harry Kane sure takes a good penalty. I don't think I've seen him miss one.

[RyeSloan]

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The four winners of each group (or the best team that hasn't already qualified for Euro 2024 through the normal qualifying route) within each league go forward to the play offs. There's then two semis and a final for each league from A-C and the winners of each final is each group's (A-C) representative in Euro 2024.

Ahh sweet thanks….I vaguely remember now re Scotland the last time!

[EGL2000]

Great assist for Boyle last night to set up Jackson Irvine.

[Bristolhibby]

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Yes, he kicks himself after the German player hits him.

I also thought it was a Pen. And a FIFA ref and VAR ref also thought so. In Germany so hardly pressured by the crowd.

Mon the Tallies on Saturday, a rerun of the Euro Final. I’ll be less stressed about this one though.

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[Oscar T Grouch]

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Harry Kane sure takes a good penalty. I don't think I've seen him miss one.

Out of the 51 he has taken over his whole career, he has missed 8, 2 for England. His last miss was in the semi final of Euro 2020 against Denmark, but he scored the rebound on that occasion. The only other miss for England was against Turkey in a friendly 2016 but he did also score in that match and England won it 2-1. Pretty safe pair of boots to take pen

[NAE NOOKIE]

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German caught him imo. Not sure whether he was offside but assume he was deemed not interfering initially

Seen the replay of the incident about 5 times and I still can't see how he wasn't offside, he looked it in every replay.