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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I just wonder what benefit to the economy local and national Faslane actually contributes?
    My mates son got a job with Babcock when he came out of uni, he works more or less full time out at Faslane (so much so that he had to move to Glasgow as the commute, even during lockdown, was too much for him).
    He's not alone, Babcock have a big presence there, just as they do at Rosyth.
    Plenty skilled employees, living "locally", paying taxes etc....


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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    My mates son got a job with Babcock when he came out of uni, he works more or less full time out at Faslane (so much so that he had to move to Glasgow as the commute, even during lockdown, was too much for him).
    He's not alone, Babcock have a big presence there, just as they do at Rosyth.
    Plenty skilled employees, living "locally", paying taxes etc....
    A property company I'm familiar with makes a significant amount of revenue from renting flats/houses to the likes of Babcock and the RN..... I'm surprised how many are located in Glasgow itself, folks must be happy about the commute.

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    SNP nationalisation of Scotrail.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61504782

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    SNP nationalisation of Scotrail.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61504782
    Not sure what the fuss is about, I have never been able to have a night out in Perth, even at weekends the last train is before 9pm


    Not to mention the dispute has been going on for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Not sure what the fuss is about, I have never been able to have a night out in Perth, even at weekends the last train is before 9pm


    Not to mention the dispute has been going on for months.
    Wait, you mean the trains DON'T WORK?! And this has been going on for LONGER than JUST NOW?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Not sure what the fuss is about, I have never been able to have a night out in Perth, even at weekends the last train is before 9pm


    Not to mention the dispute has been going on for months.
    First point is wrong because there is obviously alot to fuss about with thousands effected. Second point is correct though as this is an old problem and not to do with the nationalisation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    First point is wrong because there is obviously alot to fuss about with thousands effected. Second point is correct though as this is an old problem and not to do with the nationalisation
    Yes, but the nationalisation solution to the problem is just cut services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Yes, but the nationalisation solution to the problem is just cut services.
    No sure what else you do with limited staff. Needs resolved pronto though

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    Quote Originally Posted by stairway 2 7 View Post
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    no sure what else you do with limited staff unwilling to work when required. Needs resolved pronto though
    ftfy 😉
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Fewer than a third of those eligible sign up for Scottish government's flagship free bus travel scheme:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61492386

    My recollection of this last year was being told to hold off on applying for my kids until Covid restrictions had eased,
    at which time further communications would be issued. Heard nothing since tho.

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    SNP are lying b******s as well !

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    Fewer than a third of those eligible sign up for Scottish government's flagship free bus travel scheme:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61492386

    My recollection of this last year was being told to hold off on applying for my kids until Covid restrictions had eased,
    at which time further communications would be issued. Heard nothing since tho.
    Both my kids have this and it’s a great idea. Really easy to apply. I also know that my nieces and nephews don’t have theirs yet because their parents have got round to it yet.
    I’m not sure it’s much of a news story though?
    I live on Corstorphine and every day you would see hundreds of kids walking down at lunchtime from St. Augustine’s and Forrester to the McDonalds. Now they all get the bus because it’s free. Not sure that was the original intention but youngsters are using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Fewer than a third of those eligible sign up for Scottish government's flagship free bus travel scheme:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61492386

    My recollection of this last year was being told to hold off on applying for my kids until Covid restrictions had eased,
    at which time further communications would be issued. Heard nothing since tho.
    We've got ours now. It took 3 attempts with various I.D docs rejected and new ones submitted. It then took a phone call to find out where it was, they had posted it to an address we stayed at several years ago. Turns out they use two systems and the address details come from the Young Scot system. The call handler was really good at identifying the problem and remedied it quickly, got the NEC within days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Both my kids have this and it’s a great idea. Really easy to apply. I also know that my nieces and nephews don’t have theirs yet because their parents have got round to it yet.
    I’m not sure it’s much of a news story though?
    I live on Corstorphine and every day you would see hundreds of kids walking down at lunchtime from St. Augustine’s and Forrester to the McDonalds. Now they all get the bus because it’s free. Not sure that was the original intention but youngsters are using it.

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    There's your headline right there. SNP causing obesity in our kids.

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    SNP are lying b******s as well !

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    I understand there's lots of people involved and the investment probably runs into the billions. But ...

    Even just looking at Google Earth Faslane is a secure facility, fenced off from the local community - not really a surprise. The nearest town in Helensburgh, just over 5 miles away, has a population of 15,000. There are probably some work at Faslane but I doubt it's the biggest employer in the area for those not on the base, if you know what I mean.

    As I said previously I just can't see Faslane being such a big deal for the local community never mind making a financial difference anywhere further afield.
    I was a Submariner based at Faslane in the early to mid 90’s.

    There is a large married quarters in Helensburgh and along with those who live on the base will without a doubt head into Helensburgh to socialise, shop etc.

    There will also be a large influx of sub contracted workers who more than likely board in Helensburgh too.

    Whilst I get your point to lose or close Faslane would caused issues for local businesses from Shops, hospitality and other areas. It would have quite a large impact on the local community

    How do you replace paying customers in bars, shops and takeaways.

    If you didn’t realise I’m for the base and Trident!


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    I was a Submariner based at Faslane in the early to mid 90’s.

    There is a large married quarters in Helensburgh and along with those who live on the base will without a doubt head into Helensburgh to socialise, shop etc.

    There will also be a large influx of sub contracted workers who more than likely board in Helensburgh too.

    Whilst I get your point to lose or close Faslane would caused issues for local businesses from Shops, hospitality and other areas. It would have quite a large impact on the local community

    How do you replace paying customers in bars, shops and takeaways.

    If you didn’t realise I’m for the base and Trident!


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    It definitely works as a local campaigning issue. It's kept Jackie Baillie as one of the very few Lab MSPs that can win a constituency seat.

    That said, it's a totally bonkers argument that we should spend £200Bn to save jobs around Helensburgh, even it were tens of thousands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    It definitely works as a local campaigning issue. It's kept Jackie Baillie as one of the very few Lab MSPs that can win a constituency seat.

    That said, it's a totally bonkers argument that we should spend £200Bn to save jobs around Helensburgh, even it were tens of thousands.
    Totally understand that however I cannot see Faslane closing anytime soon. I think others have mentioned that it will be written somewhere that it would remain regardless of Independence!


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    Faslane won't be going for decades. If Scotland goes independent there will be a few parliaments before it has to be decided.

    As for the bus pass, my daughter had a nightmare actually getting it. Multiple emails scans of passport ect, but has now so all is well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo View Post
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    Totally understand that however I cannot see Faslane closing anytime soon. I think others have mentioned that it will be written somewhere that it would remain regardless of Independence!


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    Agree, it’s a brilliant bargaining tool and will support our local economy. Enough time for the Scottish Defence Force to set up and move in.

    Same with Rosyth, there are no deep water maintenance docks in England that you can sail a Queen Elizabeth Class carrier in. That work will continue and be part of the negotiation process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Agree, it’s a brilliant bargaining tool and will support our local economy. Enough time for the Scottish Defence Force to set up and move in.

    Same with Rosyth, there are no deep water maintenance docks in England that you can sail a Queen Elizabeth Class carrier in. That work will continue and be part of the negotiation process.

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    Thing is they didn’t millions dredging and setting up sections of the Forth for the Trident refit programme. Perfect location etc however way back when the then Gov decided it was going to Devonport which was never fit for purpose. Anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed with Boris and Co in charge


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    Both my kids have this and it’s a great idea. Really easy to apply. I also know that my nieces and nephews don’t have theirs yet because their parents have got round to it yet.
    I’m not sure it’s much of a news story though?
    I live on Corstorphine and every day you would see hundreds of kids walking down at lunchtime from St. Augustine’s and Forrester to the McDonalds. Now they all get the bus because it’s free. Not sure that was the original intention but youngsters are using it.

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    Arguably better continuing to walk so they at least get some exercise as they make their way to the daily delights of McDonalds

    Rollout/ease of application appears to vary across different local authorities. And I guess for any government announcing headline-making policies the reality of actually implementing them can be a great deal more challenging than anticipated - as we have seen with the abandonment of plans to eliminate the attainment gap in schools by 2026 (a wholly unrealistic ambition in the first place and a policy whose implementation has been badly flawed. Problem is, it's the one which Sturgeon has staked her reputation on):

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...ools-kjvsfngg5

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    Both my kids have this and it’s a great idea. Really easy to apply. I also know that my nieces and nephews don’t have theirs yet because their parents have got round to it yet.
    I’m not sure it’s much of a news story though?
    I live on Corstorphine and every day you would see hundreds of kids walking down at lunchtime from St. Augustine’s and Forrester to the McDonalds. Now they all get the bus because it’s free. Not sure that was the original intention but youngsters are using it.

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    Just what the country needs eh, hundreds of kids bussing it to McDonald's instead of walking.

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    Just what the country needs eh, hundreds of kids bussing it to McDonald's instead of walking.
    I've ensured all 17 of my football team have them, so they can get to training on time instead of using mum and dad's car. Just what the country needs. 😆

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    LRT could always change their timetable so that there no suitable busses after the dinner bell goes.

    Just as they do for Hibs supporters after the game. There's a bus just before the final whistle then nothing for half an hour.
    Space to let

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    I've ensured all 17 of my football team have them, so they can get to training on time instead of using mum and dad's car. Just what the country needs. 😆
    None of our parents had cars back in the day and we all made training on time, we were all usually early in fact playing footy before the adults arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunchie View Post
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    None of our parents had cars back in the day and we all made training on time, we were all usually early in fact playing footy before the adults arrived.
    Our boys come from far afield. Times move on, just like Scotland. ✌

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    Nicola Sturgeon becomes Scotland's longest serving FM tomorrow, what's her greatest achievement been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    Nicola Sturgeon becomes Scotland's longest serving FM tomorrow, what's her greatest achievement been?
    Making so many thinking English people wish that they lived in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Making so many thinking English people wish that they lived in Scotland.
    I was thinking more about what changes she has made for the people of Scotland, the ones she has responsibility for.

    As an aside nothing stopping as many English as wanted moving to Scotland today. Might not be the case in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    I was thinking more about what changes she has made for the people of Scotland, the ones she has responsibility for.

    As an aside nothing stopping as many English as wanted moving to Scotland today. Might not be the case in the future.
    I'd go free baby boxes. Never personally benefitted from it myself, good initiative all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    I was thinking more about what changes she has made for the people of Scotland, the ones she has responsibility for.

    As an aside nothing stopping as many English as wanted moving to Scotland today. Might not be the case in the future.
    Pretty sure immigrants are welcome in Scotland for a good while yet.

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