Local elections

[Onceinawhile]

Was the only person in when I went at ten to 2.

Usually vote snp/green, but the current Labour Councillor really helped us over the lockdown regarding my son's speech and language school staying open, so he got the vote this time.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I was the opposite, the only leaflet and person to come to the door was the independent candidate.


1 Green
2 independent
3 snp
4 snp

I didn't give the other 4 candidates a vote.

If you have any preference for one of the 4 others (say just for talking's sake, the one with the blue rosette) it's worth keeping going. Your vote can't transfer to a lower ranked candidate until your higher ranked candidates have been elected or eliminated. So you can prefer red over blue with no detriment to green or yellow.*

Vote till you boak.






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[Hibernian Verse]

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Sure

[Moulin Yarns]

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If you have any preference for one of the 4 others (say just for talking's sake, the one with the blue rosette) it's worth keeping going. Your vote can't transfer to a lower ranked candidate until your higher ranked candidates have been elected or eliminated. So you can prefer red over blue with no detriment to green or yellow.*

Vote till you boak.






* colours selected entirely at random for example purposes.

I guess I could have voted orange, then red, to keep the two blues at a disadvantage. I know that the orange and red have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected here

I saw the front page of the National and didn't realise that was what it meant.

[Sir David Gray]

I can't/won't vote SNP, Green or Conservative so that narrows down my choices quite significantly.

I prefer to vote for independent candidates but one of them in my area is a far right individual who I couldn't possibly vote for so I gave my first two votes to the other two independent candidates and third and fourth to a Liberal Democrat and then a Labour candidate.

[Stick]

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the STV voting system. If you can be bothered reading the full explanation of how it works, not only will your head explode but you will understand that the vote till you boak advice doesn’t mean that you should rate ALL the candidates.
If you are pro indie then you should rank the pro indie leaning candidates then stop, don’t continue to rank the anti indie candidates. So in my area it would be snp 1, snp 2, green 3. If there was an indie leaning independant candidate or an Alba they would get 4, and 5.
If you stop as soon as your preferred candidates are finished then any remaining votes are exhausted (voided). If you rank all the candidates then you risk your unused votes filtering down to a Tory.
This is exactly why the unionist parties are advising to only vote for them and not to continue down the list.
I understand that a good local candidate is important, but party politics do come into it I’m afraid. For instance in Perth and Kinross last week the controling Tory council, backed by the Lib Dem’s, voted to sell the council offices to a hotel chain for £1. Not 1 million just 1. Despite in 2015 spending £10million on refurbishing the offices. They rushed the vote thru despite protests from snp and labour to ensure that if they lost overall control after today it would be to late.
So local councils are affected by party politics.
If it were up to me it wouldn’t be allowed, independant councilors only, but alliances would still be forged.

[JeMeSouviens]

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There seems to be a lot of confusion about the STV voting system. If you can be bothered reading the full explanation of how it works, not only will your head explode but you will understand that the vote till you boak advice doesn’t mean that you should rate ALL the candidates.
If you are pro indie then you should rank the pro indie leaning candidates then stop, don’t continue to rank the anti indie candidates. So in my area it would be snp 1, snp 2, green 3. If there was an indie leaning independant candidate or an Alba they would get 4, and 5.
If you stop as soon as your preferred candidates are finished then any remaining votes are exhausted (voided). If you rank all the candidates then you risk your unused votes filtering down to a Tory.
This is exactly why the unionist parties are advising to only vote for them and not to continue down the list.
I understand that a good local candidate is important, but party politics do come into it I’m afraid. For instance in Perth and Kinross last week the controling Tory council, backed by the Lib Dem’s, voted to sell the council offices to a hotel chain for £1. Not 1 million just 1. Despite in 2015 spending £10million on refurbishing the offices. They rushed the vote thru despite protests from snp and labour to ensure that if they lost overall control after today it would be to late.
So local councils are affected by party politics.
If it were up to me it wouldn’t be allowed, independant councilors only, but alliances would still be forged.

Indeed, it means rank all the ones you can stomach getting elected then stop when you boak.

I'm pro-indy but would always prefer a Lab unionist to a Tory one. And I'm not pro-indy enough to vote for the Alex Salmond ego-project, even as a 5th or 6th pref, the sooner they disappear altogether the better.

[The dalmeny]

Get the impression the family party are bams

[stu in nottingham]

I haven't had a single leaflet or flyer here, nor have there been any doorstep visits...and the deputy leader of the local Labour council lives just three doors away...

[hibsbollah]

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Views on indy could conceivably matter if the SG tries to hold a non-agreed with UKG indyref2 and it's up to councils to decide whether to participate in the actual vote organisation. Unlikely but possible.

I suppose that’s true it’s very much far down the list of things councilors will be concerning themselves with day to day though.

[Smartie]

This has completely passed me by.

[Moulin Yarns]

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There seems to be a lot of confusion about the STV voting system. If you can be bothered reading the full explanation of how it works, not only will your head explode but you will understand that the vote till you boak advice doesn’t mean that you should rate ALL the candidates.
If you are pro indie then you should rank the pro indie leaning candidates then stop, don’t continue to rank the anti indie candidates. So in my area it would be snp 1, snp 2, green 3. If there was an indie leaning independant candidate or an Alba they would get 4, and 5.
If you stop as soon as your preferred candidates are finished then any remaining votes are exhausted (voided). If you rank all the candidates then you risk your unused votes filtering down to a Tory.
This is exactly why the unionist parties are advising to only vote for them and not to continue down the list.
I understand that a good local candidate is important, but party politics do come into it I’m afraid. For instance in Perth and Kinross last week the controling Tory council, backed by the Lib Dem’s, voted to sell the council offices to a hotel chain for £1. Not 1 million just 1. Despite in 2015 spending £10million on refurbishing the offices. They rushed the vote thru despite protests from snp and labour to ensure that if they lost overall control after today it would be to late.
So local councils are affected by party politics.
If it were up to me it wouldn’t be allowed, independant councilors only, but alliances would still be forged.

I live in Perth and Kinross and I've not heard anything about the sale of the property. I assume that it's 3 to 5 high Street. Any links?


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/former-perth-kinross-council-building-26825706


Found it. The council will lease the former office to the developer, and it's not the same building that was renovated in 2015. I used to work in the building that is to be converted, can't say it will be easy.

[Stick]

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I live in Perth and Kinross and I've not heard anything about the sale of the property. I assume that it's 3 to 5 high Street. Any links?


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/l...lding-26825706


Found it. The council will lease the former office to the developer, and it's not the same building that was renovated in 2015. I used to work in the building that is to be converted, can't say it will be easy.

Ok, but the council are giving a grant of £1.9 to the company to assist with renovation work, whilst continuing to lease Pullar House for £2.5 million a year. Doesn’t feel good as a rate payer. Also why rush it through before the council elections? Not happy.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Ok, but the council are giving a grant of £1.9 to the company to assist with renovation work, whilst continuing to lease Pullar House for £2.5 million a year. Doesn’t feel good as a rate payer. Also why rush it through before the council elections? Not happy.

I am fairly sure that the pullar house lease is to 2025, I moved into it in 2010. With the current working from home I suspect that the lease won't be renewed, now that would be a decent hotel premises.

[Jones28]

Saw a tweet that said Westminster could fall to Labour. That would be interesting.

[CropleyWasGod]

Given the voting system, how long will it be before we get the results?

[Radium]

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Given the voting system, how long will it be before we get the results?

… counts are on Friday.


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[CropleyWasGod]

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… counts are on Friday.


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Ta

[Santa Cruz]

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Given the voting system, how long will it be before we get the results?

roughly tea time tomorrow.

[Ozyhibby]

Would expect the Greens to do well in Scotland. Now that the are so closely aligned with Indy vote they will likely be a lot of peoples 2nd choice.


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[heretoday]

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Saw a tweet that said Westminster could fall to Labour. That would be interesting.

Maybe they'll remove the drinks license from the Houses of Parliament.

[hibsbollah]

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Saw a tweet that said Westminster could fall to Labour. That would be interesting.

It just has

It seems like a decent night from Labour at consolidating where they’re doing better post Brexit, in the cities and with the uni educated, but still struggling in the red wall, lost Hull for example.

[Pretty Boy]

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It just has

It seems like a decent night from Labour at consolidating where they’re doing better post Brexit, in the cities and with the uni educated, but still struggling in the red wall, lost Hull for example.

My initial reaction, and I admit I have only glanced at the results, is it was a pretty poor night for Labour if the aim of Starmer is to take votes from Tories.

As expected the Tories have lost a load of seats, however it seems the majority thus far have not gone to Labour. The Greens and Lib Dems look like they should be most happy thus far. I'm pleased about the former, less so the latter.

[Bostonhibby]

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My initial reaction, and I admit I have only glanced at the results, is it was a pretty poor night for Labour if the aim of Starmer is to take votes from Tories.

As expected the Tories have lost a load of seats, however it seems the majority thus far have not gone to Labour. The Greens and Lib Dems look like they should be most happy thus far. I'm pleased about the former, less so the latter.

I agree, I'd like to be a lot more positive but the wild card in all of this at a national level is Ed Davey might fancy playing Nasty party minister again and has the potential to go Nasty again in a hung parliament.
They've proven that Liberal they ain't, opportunistic they undoubtedly are when they got into bed with Call me Dave.

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[Moulin Yarns]

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Given the voting system, how long will it be before we get the results?

First one, probably Orkney, around 11, last one about 4 if last time is anything to go on.

[Moulin Yarns]

I don't know how much we can read into the results in England because

1. Not all councils are having elections, and

2. Not all seats in the councils are being voted for.


My sister in law is in Wakefield metropolitan burgh where only 21 out of 63 seats are up for grabs.

Weird way to do it.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/larryandpaul/sta...DXwftnUrf0WItA

Thought this was funny but not worth a new thread so put it here.


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[Ozyhibby]

Scottish Tories could be in for a very rough Friday.


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[CropleyWasGod]

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Scottish Tories could be in for a very rough Friday.


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What does "nc" mean?

Serious replies only 😆

[overdrive]

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I can't/won't vote SNP, Green or Conservative so that narrows down my choices quite significantly.

I prefer to vote for independent candidates but one of them in my area is a far right individual who I couldn't possibly vote for so I gave my first two votes to the other two independent candidates and third and fourth to a Liberal Democrat and then a Labour candidate.

I’m the same in terms of your first paragraph.

I went:

1. Labour
2. Lib Dem 1
3. Lib Dem 2
4. Scottish Libertarian Party

I regret that fourth one now. I voted for him because he was running on a stop council vanity projects stance. However, reading afterwards more generally about the party, they are both pro Brexit and pro Scottish Independence and also support privatising healthcare. Wish I’d done more research rather than just reading what the candidate had to say.

Edit: think the area I’ve moved to is pretty strong Lib Dem, probably why they seemed to be the only party fielding multiple candidates.