SNP are lying b******s as well !

[CropleyWasGod]

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I think looking at what is known by us plebs that the yard was put into administration by McColl. Nobody came forward to buy it and the SG stepped in to save it.

According to who you believed it saved either 150 or 350 jobs at the time.

The yard had 5 boats under construction at the time.

I know McColl is accusing sturgeon of lying, but all the information points to him lying. Only time and a public inquiry will tell who lied the most.

He said it himself that he got it wrong. It's in that BBC piece.

[Berwickhibby]

I saw a tweet of Sally MacDonald standing in front of the SNP battle bus stating “all aboard the Gravy Bus” is this because they cannot build a Gravy Boat

[JeMeSouviens]

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I saw a tweet of Sally MacDonald standing in front of the SNP battle bus stating “all aboard the Gravy Bus” is this because they cannot build a Gravy Boat

Very good.

Don't know about the rest of you but I can hardly wait until 6.30 for the next episode of Reporting Ferries.

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I'm not saying that this ferry fiasco shouldn't be investigated it rightly should but the airtime it's getting is unbelievable when you consider a Tory peer has had her house and offices raided by Police over an alleged fraud involving multi millions of pounds of tax payers money and there's diddly squat being reported on the BBC.

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I'm not saying that this ferry fiasco shouldn't be investigated it rightly should but the airtime it's getting is unbelievable when you consider a Tory peer has had her house and offices raided by Police over an alleged fraud involving multi millions of pounds of tax payers money and there's diddly squat being reported on the BBC.

That’s because the Tory Peer is under a Criminal investigation and therefore whilst the investigation is on going reporting about it is covered by sub judicie as there could be further arrests and/or charges. The Ferry fiasco is not criminal just incompetence.

sub judice
/sʌb ˈdʒuːdɪsi,sʊb ˈjuːdɪkeɪ/
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adjective: subjudice
under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion elsewhere.
"the cases were still sub judice"

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That’s because the Tory Peer is under a Criminal investigation and therefore whilst the investigation is on going reporting about it is covered by sub judicie as there could be further arrests and/or charges. The Ferry fiasco is not criminal just incompetence.

sub judice
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adjectiveLAW
adjective: subjudice
under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion elsewhere.
"the cases were still sub judice"

I don't doubt your answer but it's being widely reported elsewhere, the National is actually reporting on the lack of BBC cover. Come to think of it, it isn't sub judice is it? Sub judice would be if it was in the courts which it isn't, it's an investigation. Ergo there's no reason for not reporting it apart from the BBC trying to protect her and whoever else is involved, one rule for the SG and another for the Tories as per.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20...on-house-raid/

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I don't doubt your answer but it's being widely reported elsewhere, the National is actually reporting on the lack of BBC cover. Come to think of it, it isn't sub judice is it? Sub judice would be if it was in the courts which it isn't, it's an investigation. Ergo there's no reason for not reporting it apart from the BBC trying to protect her and whoever else is involved, one rule for the SG and another for the Tories as per.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20...on-house-raid/

Sub judicie also covers criminal investigations and is used regularly if there is a likelihood of more arrests

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...U4voRd9ofjhUzQ

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https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...U4voRd9ofjhUzQ

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That'll be a relief to the team on Reporting Ferries, it's a hard enough half hour to fill as it is.

"Now over to our permanently stationed reporter in Adrossan, tell us, just how big a disaster for Sturgeon is this latest bombshell?"

[Moulin Yarns]

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That'll be a relief to the team on Reporting Ferries, it's a hard enough half hour to fill as it is.

"Now over to our permanently stationed reporter in Adrossan, tell us, just how big a disaster for Sturgeon is this latest bombshell?"

Further down that twitter rant is an extract saying that the contract between CMAL and Ferguson Marine was fixed price, so the question I have is how Ferguson Marine managed to run up so much over run on costs in a fixed price contract?!

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Mackay hung out for another drying.

[James310]

They couldn't even redact the document correctly.

https://twitter.com/eilidhdouglas/st...b9rD2x91A&s=19

Copy and pasting it into Word meant you could remove all the blacked out sections.

[Stairway 2 7]

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They couldn't even redact the document correctly.

https://twitter.com/eilidhdouglas/st...b9rD2x91A&s=19

Copy and pasting it into Word meant you could remove all the blacked out sections.

😆

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They couldn't even redact the document correctly.

https://twitter.com/eilidhdouglas/st...b9rD2x91A&s=19

Copy and pasting it into Word meant you could remove all the blacked out sections.

And was the smoking gun behind the redactions?


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And was the smoking gun behind the redactions?


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None, just more warnings about the significant risks it posed, that were ignored anyway. Not sure why the need to try and redact.

This explains it quite well though.

https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...MmcrO5Q9A&s=19

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Natalie McGarry: Former SNP MP found guilty of embezzling £25,000 - BBC News

I didn't follow the first trial closely, but having read more about this one it seems reasonable to suggest that she wasn't somebody who was really cut out for a position of responsibility and the demands that brings. Whether or not that's the case it's been a very sorry saga and presumably she now faces a prison sentence?

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Natalie McGarry: Former SNP MP found guilty of embezzling £25,000 - BBC News

I didn't follow the first trial closely, but having read more about this one it seems reasonable to suggest that she wasn't somebody who was really cut out for a position of responsibility and the demands that brings. Whether or not that's the case it's been a very sorry saga and presumably she now faces a prison sentence?

She is probably looking at some time in prison although a sensible system would just put someone like her on an electronic tag.


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None, just more warnings about the significant risks it posed, that were ignored anyway. Not sure why the need to try and redact.

This explains it quite well though.

https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...MmcrO5Q9A&s=19

It's a shambles (and the number of ****-ups Swinney has been associated with must surely embarrass him?) but as long as Nicola just continues to deflect all criticism away by playing the 'we're not as shambolic as the Tories' card I'm sure it will all eventually blow over.

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It's a shambles (and the number of ****-ups Swinney has been associated with must surely embarrass him?) but as long as Nicola just continues to deflect all criticism away by playing the 'we're not as shambolic as the Tories' card I'm sure it will all eventually blow over.

To be fair, being the least worst option should be enough to win any election.


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To be fair, being the least worst option should be enough to win any election.


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Maybe so, but it doesn't exactly say a lot for the quality and depth of policitians in the country.

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To be fair, being the least worst option should be enough to win any election.


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What a sad observation on politics in Scotland today.

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Maybe so, but it doesn't exactly say a lot for the quality and depth of policitians in the country.

...but it's where we are at.

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What a sad observation on politics in Scotland today.

That’s the same in any country in the world.


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She is probably looking at some time in prison although a sensible system would just put someone like her on an electronic tag.


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'Elevated beyond her abilities' (and did not undergo a rigorous selection process, according to this, presumably thanks in a large part to her family connections in the party):

Natalie McGarry: The rise and fall of ex-SNP MP who was once a 'star in the making' (msn.com)

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That’s the same in any country in the world.


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The bar seems set especially low these days, however (the US being the most glaring example). Or is it just that the level of scrutiny now (ie it's a lot harder to 'disappear' things in the electronic age) dissuades a lot of more talented folk from political careers?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61422970

I'm unclear how Swinney's 'I only signed off the costs' line somehow absolves him of responsibility?

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She is probably looking at some time in prison although a sensible system would just put someone like her on an electronic tag.


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Why do you think she should only be on tag, she used her position of trust to steal ….she received 18 months previously for these crimes when she pleaded guilty… I expect she will receive a longer sentence this time.

[Keith_M]

On a lighter note...


When we were at Glasgow Airport last week, there was a great big sign on one of the out buildings that said 'NATS'.

My wife said, "typical SNP, they have to get their name on everything"

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Why do you think she should only be on tag, she used her position of trust to steal ….she received 18 months previously for these crimes when she pleaded guilty… I expect she will receive a longer sentence this time.

I just don’t think prison works and I would use the tag for all non violent offences. Nothing to do with who she is.


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I just don’t think prison works and I would use the tag for all non violent offences. Nothing to do with who she is.


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What about scammers who defraud the old and vulnerable out of their life savings.

just stick a tag on their ankle and let them continue scamming on a associates computer.