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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    68% of people think that local councils shouldn't exist and decisions should be made in Westminster
    So yes? 😄


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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    So yes? ��
    From now on, I'm complaining to Michael Green about potholes in Leith.

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    Comparing turn out of a council election to a referendum on your nations independence is ridiculous, what was the turn out of the hibs club election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Comparing turn out of a council election to a referendum on your nations independence is ridiculous, what was the turn out of the hibs club election
    I wasn't comparing. I asked what I thought was a reasonable question. The point, of course, was to try and establish what would be a sufficient turnout that would reflect "the will.of the people ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I wasn't comparing. I asked what I thought was a reasonable question. The point, of course, was to try and establish what would be a sufficient turnout that would reflect "the will.of the people ".
    The fact council election have people of all parties vote on it makes it irrelevant to this. The low turn out is due to people having little interest. The 32% is mixed, not just one side not voting

    People obviously have huge interest in independence referendum. If one side doesn't vote and there is a decent amount under 50% turn out, no one will take it seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    The fact council election have people of all parties vote on it makes it irrelevant to this. The low turn out is due to people having little interest. The 32% is mixed, not just one side not voting

    People obviously have huge interest in independence referendum. If one side doesn't vote and there is a decent amount under 50% turn out, no one will take it seriously
    So "more than 50%"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    The fact council election have people of all parties vote on it makes it irrelevant to this. The low turn out is due to people having little interest. The 32% is mixed, not just one side not voting

    People obviously have huge interest in independence referendum. If one side doesn't vote and there is a decent amount under 50% turn out, no one will take it seriously
    The last one was won with a little under 47% of the elecorate.

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    I can understand why people are against independence but I can't understand why people are against a democratic vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    The last one was won with a little under 47% of the elecorate.
    I wouldn't say that was a decent amount under 50. But far more importantly both sides voted. All over the world no one takes a referendum seriously if its only one side voting.

    Although I'm unsure if the snp want a vote right now when most polls are consistently No

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I wouldn't say that was a decent amount under 50. But far more importantly both sides voted. All over the world no one takes a referendum seriously if its only one side voting.

    Although I'm unsure if the snp want a vote right now when most polls are consistently No
    The polls have been ***** hot at predcting all sorts of votes over the last decade or so. Or have they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I can understand why people are against independence but I can't understand why people are against a democratic vote.

    You're not daft Jack, you know exactly why we're being denied a referendum. First line of defence, don't let those Jocks ask the question. Democracy doesn't come into it.

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    We've just started a swear jar in the Bee household, after Debate Night on BBC I'm now £83 lighter, Rachael Hamilton should be banned from all future episodes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    We've just started a swear jar in the Bee household, after Debate Night on BBC I'm now £83 lighter, Rachael Hamilton should be banned from all future episodes
    Who she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    The polls have been ***** hot at predcting all sorts of votes over the last decade or so. Or have they?
    They aren't completely accurate but if they are consistently saying this year that no is ahead, you unfortunately would be daft to say its anything but too close to call. We'd want to have a good lead and a bit of confidence going in. Because if this is another no, then I can't see another referendum for decades
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Who she?
    Used to be the Tory shadow tourism minister, who was fined over £50,000 for breaking the law on workplace pensions at the upmarket hotel she owned. The fine had increased as she refused to pay the initial one.

    Typical tory...one rule for the Plebs, another for them.

    She also claimed last night that the unemployment rate was higher in Scotland than the UK...another lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    They are completely accurate but if they are consistently saying this year that no is ahead, you unfortunately would be daft to say its anything but too close to call. We'd want to have a good lead and a bit of confidence going in. Because if this is another no, then I can't see another referendum for decades
    Type 'why were the polls so wrong' into Google. Add in the UK if you wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Type 'why were the polls so wrong' into Google. Add in the UK if you wish.
    Sorry bad typo meant aren't accurate, but it makes it beyond doubt that it's close. You must be glass half full kind of guy if you think it isn't close

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    SNP Scotland is fast becoming a grim place to live under this Scottish Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Hibs View Post
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    SNP Scotland is fast becoming a grim place to live under this Scottish Government.
    It's grim up north was a saying long before the SNP were about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I can understand why people are against independence but I can't understand why people are against a democratic vote.
    This, 100%. What are they afraid of? 🤔
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I can understand why people are against independence but I can't understand why people are against a democratic vote.
    We just had a once in a generation democratic vote on independence 8 years ago and the people vote NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    We just had a once in a generation democratic vote on independence 8 years ago and the people vote NO.
    If you have in your manifesto that you will make it law that everyone has to eat cheese on a Tuesday and you win the election then it's your right to do so, doesn't matter what's been said previously or how much other people moan about it, it's democracy but some people seem to want to pick and choose what parts of that they actually want

    Not like it's just one election either, it's every single one since 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    We just had a once in a generation democratic vote on independence 8 years ago and the people vote NO.
    A political generation is 7 years. We know that because that is stated in the Belfast agreement, an agreement the British government are signatories to.

    A generation can't surely be different in Northern Ireland to Scotland, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    A political generation is 7 years. We know that because that is stated in the Belfast agreement, an agreement the British government are signatories to.

    A generation can't surely be different in Northern Ireland to Scotland, no?
    The definition of a word is whatever the current Conservative government says it is, that's what strong leadership's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    The definition of a word is whatever the current Conservative government says it is, that's what strong leadership's all about.
    I should really know that. Consistency and facts are alien to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Hibs View Post
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    SNP Scotland is fast becoming a grim place to live under this Scottish Government.
    Maybe go somewhere else then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    We just had a once in a generation democratic vote on independence 8 years ago and the people vote NO.
    Long past time for another vote then. Perhaps this time people will vote more sensibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...ztBVSgf2w&s=19

    Legal advice on IndyRef2 to be published in June after a 13 month battle to release it under FOI laws. Scottish Government ministers found to have breached the FOI legislation.
    Any news on Michael Goves illegal polling on Scottish independence which was supposed to be released within 4 weeks of July 15th 2021.

    That dates not a typo. 😆

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    We just had a once in a generation democratic vote on independence 8 years ago and the people vote NO.
    If it's in capitals, shouldn't it be NEVER!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I wouldn't say that was a decent amount under 50. But far more importantly both sides voted. All over the world no one takes a referendum seriously if its only one side voting.

    Although I'm unsure if the snp want a vote right now when most polls are consistently No
    I agree. As I said, we won't get indy with EU approval by holding an advisory ref where the UKG isn't on board and the Unionist side boycotts. It's definitely worth playing the long game to keep EU sympathies on our side.

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