SNP are lying b******s as well !

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What reason won't they have an election in 2023? Is it they don't think they will get a legally binding one by then

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What reason won't they have an election in 2023? Is it they don't think they will get a legally binding one by then

There was an election in 2021, it will be 2026 before the next Scottish election. 😉

I know you meant to say referendum 😁

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There was an election in 2021, it will be 2026 before the next Scottish election. 😉

I know you meant to say referendum 😁

Aye referendum. I've just not seen why 2023 won't happen, seen someone mentioning Ukraine but that's obviously nonsense.

Is it not thinking we will get the win, if so then fair enough as it will be the last vote in decades. Or is it they won't get it to be legally binding in time

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Aye referendum. I've just not seen why 2023 won't happen, seen someone mentioning Ukraine but that's obviously nonsense.

Is it not thinking we will get the win, if so then fair enough as it will be the last vote in decades. Or is it they won't get it to be legally binding in time

probably more like the latter. More likely is a General Election next year as I doubt the Tories will hold off till 2024.

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Thanks. The current crew is only 26. If they have built sleeping accom for 50+ crew that does seem a bit OTT.

Seems like this is a really touchy subject so I'm treading carefully here. I thought Radio Scotland was generally a good source of info for most of you on here but apparently not in this case!!

Wow! Even your bowing out lasted longer than your treading carefully 😂

Who is it specifically you think that feels touchy about this?

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Hopefully these ships turn out better

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Aye referendum. I've just not seen why 2023 won't happen, seen someone mentioning Ukraine but that's obviously nonsense.

Is it not thinking we will get the win, if so then fair enough as it will be the last vote in decades. Or is it they won't get it to be legally binding in time

My fear is if it's a no vote again. We won't get another referendum ever again.

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My fear is if it's a no vote again. We won't get another referendum ever again.

If it's a no vote, they'll just try again in another 5 or 10 years i'd have thought?

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If it's a no vote, they'll just try again in another 5 or 10 years i'd have thought?

Québec has had 2 referendums: 1980 a 60-40 no, 1995 a baw-hair 50.5-49.5 no. Following 1995, everyone assumed it was only a matter of time. There has not been a 3rd and the indy tide has more or less gone out.

Having said that there are obviously huge and important differences:

- The demographics are the opposite of ours, the older age groups favour indy.
- Québec now has a "short of independence" party, the CAQ, mainly composed of splitters from the pro-indy PQ. The CAQ is in favour of extracting the maximum for Québec within the Canadian federation, whether at the expense of Anglophone Canada or not.
- An inclusive indy side is hard to pull off when so much of the politics is wrapped in the language/culture of "New France".
- Québec is a genuinely powerful province within a federation.

But it is a warning that the seemingly inevitable is not inevitable.

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Would there be any harm in Scotland saying we will hold a referendum every x years?

It would keep both governments on their toes in perpetuity as they'd have to constantly try to keep everyone on side!

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Would there be any harm in Scotland saying we will hold a referendum every x years?

It would keep both governments on their toes in perpetuity as they'd have to constantly try to keep everyone on side!

Would be an even worse popularity competition than we have now.

The country needs a plan for the long term. Pandering to clicks and likes is all we have.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-60939628

It's not so much his daily rate which strikes me as the issue here but the fact that as 'turnaround director' the turnaround achieved seems to have been negligible to non-existent.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-60939628

It's not so much his daily rate which strikes me as the issue here but the fact that as 'turnaround director' the turnaround achieved seems to have been negligible to non-existent.

Shows how out of touch Scottish Labour are if they think Lionel Messi is on 3k a day

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That'll be a class trip

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HMS Glasgow, currently being built on the Clyde, is to be used to ferry passengers between Scottish islands after a request from the Scottish Government due to delays with the ferries being built at Port Glasgow

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I'd remind about the date first before it kicks off actually

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I'd remind about the date first before it kicks off actually

Due to be operational from 2026, I think that even the Glen Sannock will be running before then 😉

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'Scottish government marked own homework over ferries fiasco':

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...her-nasty-turn

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'Scottish government marked own homework over ferries fiasco':

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...her-nasty-turn

I saw none of the former managers of Ferguson Marine were allowed to speak to Audit Scotland as they had all signed gagging orders as part of their package when leaving. Audit Scotland asked the Scottish Government to relax the gagging orders so they could speak to them but the Government refused.

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I had the misfortune to get stuck behind blackford on the way to the game today.

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I had the misfortune to get stuck behind blackford on the way to the game today.

You have my deepest sympathy

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I had the misfortune to get stuck behind blackford on the way to the game today.

Was he heading for posh seats or mixing with the plebs ?

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Was he heading for posh seats or mixing with the plebs ?

Brunswick road so too early to tell !

Although I guess he had at least one encounter with a pleb.

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I saw none of the former managers of Ferguson Marine were allowed to speak to Audit Scotland as they had all signed gagging orders as part of their package when leaving. Audit Scotland asked the Scottish Government to relax the gagging orders so they could speak to them but the Government refused.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20041188.derek-mackay-vows-set-record-straight-holyrood-ferry-fiasco-inquiry/

'I was fourth in pecking order behind Sturgeon, Swinney and Brown,' says Mackay.

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'I was fourth in pecking order behind Sturgeon, Swinney and Brown,' says Mackay.

Derek ‘Peado’ Mackay is stating he is now prepared to give evidence in the Ferry mess

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Derek ‘Peado’ Mackay is stating he is now prepared to give evidence in the Ferry mess

A pretty dodgy accusation to make given the police said no laws had been broken.

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A pretty dodgy accusation to make given the police said no laws had been broken.

So grooming a young boy is acceptable behaviour the man is a beast in my book regardless

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So grooming a young boy is acceptable behaviour the man is a beast in my book regardless

I'm in no way defending what he did. Its what you've written I'd suggest is actionable.

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I'm in no way defending what he did. Its what you've written I'd suggest is actionable.

If he had been a MSP of any other party I doubt you would not have this opinion, where if he had been Tory, Labour, Lib Dem or whoever my opinion would still be the same.

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If he had been a MSP of any other party I doubt you would not have this opinion, where if he had been Tory, Labour, Lib Dem or whoever my opinion would still be the same.

Absolutely. In the eyes of the law he has not committed a crime. But I've been questioning your actions not his. I'd suggest your comment is quite possibly libelous.

No matter what I think personally of any politician, or anyone else for that matter, I wouldn't be going on a public forum describing them as something the police have investigated him for and stated quite clearly no law was broken.

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Absolutely. In the eyes of the law he has not committed a crime. But I've been questioning your actions not his. I'd suggest your comment is quite possibly libelous.

No matter what I think personally of any politician, or anyone else for that matter, I wouldn't be going on a public forum describing them as something the police have investigated him for and stated quite clearly no law was broken.

I'd doubt he'd want the publicity of taking a football fan to court, especially although not illegal definitely dodgy and verging on grooming