What makes you suspect it is true? What is your research on this, what evidence have you seen that others may not have? What is it that you have seen that the might of the British state and their security services didn't and led them to release Donaldson with no charge?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: SNP are lying b******s as well !
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15-03-2022 08:57 PM #391
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15-03-2022 09:05 PM #392
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15-03-2022 09:07 PM #393This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What was your previous user name again?
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15-03-2022 09:09 PM #394This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Bit like all the Big Jock Knew stuff.
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15-03-2022 09:23 PM #396This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Whether I believe it to be true or not is my personal opinion.
Mainly its due to Donaldson and the SNP’s sympathies of the time, MI5 clearly believing it and deciding he needed interned, the informant who said it happened, the quotes from Donaldson at the time (“ The government would leave the country and England’s position would be absolutely hopeless, as poverty and famine would be their only reward for declaring war on Germany. Scotland, on the other hand, has great possibilities”) and my total disdain for the SNP in general. To be clear, I’m not saying it happened.
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15-03-2022 09:26 PM #397This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I have been a member on here for a few weeks after being a long term reader of the main forum. Think I will just stick to that one going forward
Cheers.
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15-03-2022 09:27 PM #398
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What you believe isn’t your opinion, and you’re not saying it happened but your opinion is it did happen because you hate the SNP?!
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15-03-2022 09:28 PM #399
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15-03-2022 09:31 PM #400This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What you have copied is a quote from the British MI5 agent that has never been corroborated by anyone. You are presenting it here as if it was a direct quote from Donaldson that you can prove he said. You cannot prove he ever said anything like that
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15-03-2022 09:32 PM #401This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I can believe something happened and not categorically say that it 100% did (as I don’t have the proof).
And I gave lots of other reasons for why I believe it (probably) happened other than not liking the SNP haha.
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15-03-2022 09:34 PM #402This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ok - I will take your word for that. I thought that was a direct quote. Thanks for clarifying.
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15-03-2022 09:37 PM #403
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15-03-2022 09:42 PM #405This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yes, what you have tried to pass off as quotes from Donaldson were actually what the MI5 officer alleged in his report. Never backed up by anyone else and again never believed by the then secretary of state or the police and therefore Donaldon was released without charge
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15-03-2022 09:43 PM #406This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Am I being called a liar? What have a lied about in either of those posts?
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15-03-2022 09:46 PM #407This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I have conceded I can’t prove it and told you what my opinion is based on. But I believe it just like people believe in lots of things they can’t prove. Not something to get upset about.
Sorry if I have offended you in some way.
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15-03-2022 09:48 PM #408This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-03-2022 09:52 PM #409This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I seem to be getting accused of being a troll, a liar and someone else who presumably posted on here previously.
I’ve maybe misjudged what can and can’t be posted - will stick to hibs topics to avoid hassle in future.
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15-03-2022 09:52 PM #410This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-03-2022 09:53 PM #411This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-03-2022 10:20 PM #413This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In your link Arthur Donaldson had this as his plan.
"The government would leave the country and England's position would be absolutely hopeless, as poverty and famine would be their only reward for declaring war on Germany. Scotland, on the other hand, has great possibilities," Mr Donaldson is recorded as saying.
"The movement in Scotland must then be able to show the German government that it is organised and has a clear-cut policy, that it is not with England in the war.
"The German government will give them every possible assistance in their early struggle, and when fire and confusion is at its height in England the movement can start in earnest."
That's disgusting. To seek to make political capitol from a neighbouring countries misfortune is the thought process of an absolute weirdo. It just goes to show though, fascism isn't anything to do with governing a country, its plain gangsterism as it was in Nazi Germany and as it is now in Russia. Power grabs and stroking egos with cash while using any old local petty bigotry to get a foothold. There's a book out there "Fascism In Scotland" which describes a "new form of bigotry trying to make a name for itself in an already crowded market" but all it does is use old ones to stoke division.
The SNP spokeman's answer is pathetic and they shouldn't keep quiet about it, the should talk about this guy as an example of how dangerous personalities can seek power.
If its true.
It was 60 years ago he was Leader of the SNP. It was niche partisan outfit. Politics change, in 1960 there were Tory politicians who came round to realising having a state owned power grid and railway could actually have a good effect on the economy.
At the moment for me the SNP or Indyref2 and arguing the whys and wherefores of is small fry compared to what is happening around us and what is within our country.
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15-03-2022 10:54 PM #414This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-03-2022 11:49 PM #416This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-03-2022 03:28 PM #417This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-03-2022 05:49 PM #418This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-03-2022 06:03 PM #419This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
History is there to learn from.
I like Vodka, Chekov's short stories, Gogol's novels and the idea of having a samovar with an endless brew. I'm not expecting either a medal from Putin or a tap on the door from MI5. If I'd been born in Russia, been allowed by their dictator to come to this country with a few billion in my pocket and sought to destabilise the UK economy, political institutions and relationships with the near neighbours I'd expect both. At the end of ww2 they had a programme of de-Nazification, sadly they didn't do it here.
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16-03-2022 06:17 PM #420
The difference between you & me, my friend, is I have a rope around my neck, & you, do not! (c/o Tuco), the other big difference wi me is the bigger the lying politician, the bigger I dislike them! Why is it I feel pretty unique in this nowadays?
History, in all its horror & brilliance, is ruined nowadays by zealots who think they are anything.
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