SNP are lying b******s as well !

[Ozyhibby]

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https://www.eastlothian.gov.uk/info/...ntary_election

They are described in official documents as first and second votes ( see para 5 )

Do you really think someone who voted for labour, lib-dem, or conservative in the first vote and greens in the second vote are Indy supporters ?

Of course, why not? If you have a good constituency MSP that you think does a good job then you may want to keep them. However, on the list vote you vote for the party that best fits your goals.


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I think it's fair to say now and the last 10 years, God knows why but Scotland has been split roughly 50/50 on independence. Probably around 40% either way aren't budging, it's the middle where its won or lost. Boris priti and other such evil entities, can surely only help the cause though

[lapsedhibee]

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I think it's fair to say now and the last 10 years, God knows why but Scotland has been split roughly 50/50 on independence. Probably around 40% either way aren't budging, it's the middle where its won or lost. Boris priti and other such evil entities, can surely only help the cause though

Not sure if Dorries being unable to spell Ukraine counts as evil, but surely she's also putting in a great shift for the Indy cause.

[Ozyhibby]

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I think it's fair to say now and the last 10 years, God knows why but Scotland has been split roughly 50/50 on independence. Probably around 40% either way aren't budging, it's the middle where its won or lost. Boris priti and other such evil entities, can surely only help the cause though

I don’t think things have really moved much at all since 2014. The change from 55-45 to the 50-50 we have just now is likely just the demographics moving slowly towards Indy.
It’s why I think the SNP policy of being patient is the right one for now. If everything else stays the same then it’s moving the right way. I’m not seeing any game changing moves by unionists just now so we should just wait it out till the time is right.


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A lot of second votes going to Greens from virtue signalling voters who obviously never read the small print in their manifesto .

So second votes for Greens is virtue signalling eh?

[Moulin Yarns]

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So second votes for Greens is virtue signalling eh?

Unlike all the 2nd votes given by Labour and libdems to the tories of course, they were all OK

[Kato]

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Unlike all the 2nd votes given by Labour and libdems to the tories of course, they were all OK

That is "lack of virtue" signalling.

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Unlike all the 2nd votes given by Labour and libdems to the tories of course, they were all OK

Did they get any second votes , apart from people who gave them their first vote ?

[Moulin Yarns]

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Did they get any second votes , apart from people who gave them their first vote ?

You seriously believe that there was no tactical voting by parties other than the SNP and Greens?!

The Conservatives got 45,000 more votes on the list than they got as first votes. I wonder how that happened 🤔😁

Labour had 100,000 less list votes!!! Libdems 50,000 less

[Ozyhibby]

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You seriously believe that there was no tactical voting by parties other than the SNP and Greens?!

The Conservatives got 45,000 more votes on the list than they got as first votes. I wonder how that happened

Labour had 100,000 less list votes!!! Libdems 50,000 less

And Alex Cole Hamilton is just a really popular guy in Corstorphine.


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You seriously believe that there was no tactical voting by parties other than the SNP and Greens?!

The Conservatives got 45,000 more votes on the list than they got as first votes. I wonder how that happened 🤔😁

Labour had 100,000 less list votes!!! Libdems 50,000 less

By my calculation 105,000 labour and libdems voters switched to the greens in the list vote

Of course it might be the case that some voters didn’t select a list candidate.

Do you know what the difference between candidate and list voter numbers were for the SNP and Greens ?

[Moulin Yarns]

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By my calculation 105,000 labour and libdems voters switched to the greens in the list vote

Of course it might be the case that some voters didn’t select a list candidate.

Do you know what the difference between candidate and list voter numbers were for the SNP and Greens ?

Yes. 😉

[Moulin Yarns]

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By my calculation 105,000 labour and libdems voters switched to the greens in the list vote

Of course it might be the case that some voters didn’t select a list candidate.

Do you know what the difference between candidate and list voter numbers were for the SNP and Greens ?

It's important to remember that the Greens didn't field candidates in all constituencies.

The SNP list vote is 200,000 less than constituency vote and the Greens list vote is 190,000 more than their constituency vote.

Interesting points on the 2 votes, 6,000 more list votes overall than constituency votes.

[JeMeSouviens]

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By my calculation 105,000 labour and libdems voters switched to the greens in the list vote

Of course it might be the case that some voters didn’t select a list candidate.

Do you know what the difference between candidate and list voter numbers were for the SNP and Greens ?

How the hell have you calculated that?

Constituency - Con+Lab+Lib = 50.4%
List - Con+Lab+Lib = 49.5%

Constituency - SNP+Grn = 49.0%
List - SNP+Grn = 48.5%

Looks like intra-nat and intra-unionist switching to me?


As others have said, the List vote seems a more reliable indicator as it removes local candidate effects and everybody is standing everywhere.

So, loathe as I am to lump in Salmond's vote, but needs must - SNP+Grn+Alba = 50.2%

Nat majority

[CropleyWasGod]

Is this the new SG-bashing thread? The other one has gone quiet

If so....

https://nationaluglymugs.org/2022/03...munity-safety/

[greenginger]

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It's important to remember that the Greens didn't field candidates in all constituencies.

The SNP list vote is 200,000 less than constituency vote and the Greens list vote is 190,000 more than their constituency vote.

Interesting points on the 2 votes, 6,000 more list votes overall than constituency votes.

There was also 45,000 list votes for the Alba party. I can’t see them coming from anywhere but the SNP constituency voters.

[Mcbizz1998]

Who cares what the SNP claim will happen in their fantasy land post independence?

Is she still claiming their will be a referendum in 2023?


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[Ozyhibby]

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Who cares what the SNP claim will happen in their fantasy land post independence?

Is she still claiming their will be a referendum in 2023?


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I’m still waiting on the fantasyland UK we were promised in 2014.


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Is she still claiming their will be a referendum in 2023?

Are you suggesting their might not be one?

[greenginger]

[QUOTE=grunt;6884457]Are you suggesting their might not be one?[/

https://m.facebook.com/ScottishConse...6629614176562/


No point in asking Nicola . She can’t remember if she’s asked for one or not .

[Moulin Yarns]

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Are you suggesting their might not be one?[/

https://m.facebook.com/ScottishConse...6629614176562/


No point in asking Nicola . She can’t remember if she’s asked for one or not .

I'm now going to have to remove all the viruses that have infected my computer!!! Those bloody Russians!!

[greenginger]

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I'm now going to have to remove all the viruses that have infected my computer!!! Those bloody Russians!!

Its no the Ruskies. It just our First Minister showing she either has the memory of a gnat , or she’s lying , under oath, through her back teeth.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Its no the Ruskies. It just our First Minister showing she either has the memory of a gnat , or she’s lying , under oath, through her back teeth.

for Tory brass neckery there.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Its no the Ruskies. It just our First Minister showing she either has the memory of a gnat , or she’s lying , under oath, through her back teeth.

You're the Tory puppet that gave me the link with all the Russian viruses!!! 🙄

Is there a peerage coming your way? 😉

[degenerated]

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You're the Tory puppet that gave me the link with all the Russian viruses!!!

Is there a peerage coming your way?

A link that absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed either. Bizarre.

[greenginger]

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A link that absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed either. Bizarre.

Check the title of the thread.

SNP are lying b*****s as well !

Do do you think you control what can be discussed on threads. ?

[grunt]

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Check the title thread.

What's a title thread?

[WeeRussell]

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What's a title thread?

A thread about all the titles that have been handed out by the tories illegally?

[grunt]

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A thread about all the titles that have been handed out by the tories illegally?

[majorhibs]

This thread is greengingers thread alone to disassociate himself from absolute anything he’s done good before cos he is a complete loss of perspective zoomer here.