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    Probably. Because we have sacked the best coach we could attract and replaced him with who knows what.

    Am I not want to want the best for our club?

    Sacking Jack Ross will turn out disasterous
    Best coach we could attract? Come off it. The best coach hibs can attract should have more than enough about him to ensure his team doesn’t get beat in a Scottish cup final against st johnstone.

    You’re going totally over the top here about how good jack ross was. It’s quite painful viewing.


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    Mind when Hearts fans were getting all excited at Stendel and his gegenpressing. They were loving it even whilst they were losing every week (and ended up relegated). I doubt Maloney will be thinking tonight was great and that it was exactly what he wants so I'm happy to back him and trust he'll be working with the players to improve us going forward.

    I'd much rather Maloney's way getting us decent results along the way until he's got us playing the way he wants compared to Stendel's relegation achieving methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    I suspect we’ll see you subtly, and probably not so subtly, sniping away at Maloney consistently for the next 2 or 3 years. When it’s probably time for Maloney to go, either sacked or poached by someone higher up the food chain.

    Maloney may or may not turn out to be a good manager but he’s inherited the Martin Boyle team with us now having sold Boyle. We need real quality added in midfield and attack if we’re to resolve the creativity issues that long pre date Maloney.
    Am sure the I told you so post is written already, ready to plaster up here if Maloney doesn't succeed in his game plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    Best coach we could attract? Come off it. The best coach hibs can attract should have more than enough about him to ensure his team doesn’t get beat in a Scottish cup final against st johnstone.

    You’re going totally over the top here about how good jack ross was. It’s quite painful viewing.
    The same St Johnstone team who beat the premier league manager Steven Gerrard in the Quarter finals? One off games don’t define a manager / team.

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    We’re all foreplay and no penetration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    The same St Johnstone team who beat the premier league manager Steven Gerrard in the Quarter finals? One off games don’t define a manager / team.
    Aye that’s true. The 9 games without a win were much more telling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia View Post
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    We’re all foreplay and no penetration
    😀

    Nisbet shot his bolt after 30 seconds just when he was entering the box.

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    Our results have improved since we binned him though, haven’t they?
    Thought it was only “style” that mattered?😉

    For me - we’ve had 4 eye bleeders out of 5 so far and we’re trying to play a style that our players are not capable of executing.

    It’s very early days but I don’t believe this sideways passing up the park from box to box will work at our level.

    Notice the Motherwell commentator said tonight that they were doing that when Alexander arrived but binned it fairly quickly.

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    Forget Jack Ross and let's concentrate what's in front of us now.
    People say his style of football is 'boring' but let's try looking at the bigger picture and playing the long game. It's not working well just now because we are missing some creativity and it's an unsettled team. Try imagining it when we do have the missing pieces...that spark in midfield that leads to opening other teams up.
    With Maloney and his style you can at least see the potential and visualise a bright future. Not so with other, less cultured styles.
    Will we fill in the blanks though? Surely that's the priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    Unfortunately I just don’t think our team is that good, especially in the final third.

    We need to recruit real quality.
    I agree we look utterly toothless, although the shape we are playing doesn't help.

    We have mueller, henderson, murphy, allan, wright, campbell, magennis, melkerson, scott, nisbet and doidge, that's 11 players all vying for 3 spots in the starting 11. 3 of them have just been recruited!

    I imagine we need to move a good few on before we are signing any more. Hopefully we can do that as we really need to get in someone with a bit of pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    The same St Johnstone team who beat the premier league manager Steven Gerrard in the Quarter finals? One off games don’t define a manager / team.
    It was more than a one off game.

    St. J Semi
    St. J Final
    Hearts at ER
    Hearts Semi

    How's that for starters? I'm sure I don't need to list the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Disasterous

    Sacking Jack Ross for this is mental

    Let’s anyone pretend they have a clue it’s better also.
    Your spelling is certainly disastrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrekko View Post
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    Thought it was only “style” that mattered?😉

    For me - we’ve had 4 eye bleeders out of 5 so far and we’re trying to play a style that our players are not capable of executing.

    It’s very early days but I don’t believe this sideways passing up the park from box to box will work at our level.

    Notice the Motherwell commentator said tonight that they were doing that when Alexander arrived but binned it fairly quickly.
    Our budget is superior to Motherwell's and I believe we can acquire the type of players to play successfully this way.
    Imagine our academy producing players that can...

    Perhaps, if we give it time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Stanton View Post
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    Your spelling is certainly disastrous.
    Best ignored in my opinion.

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    Thought it was only “style” that mattered?😉

    For me - we’ve had 4 eye bleeders out of 5 so far and we’re trying to play a style that our players are not capable of executing.

    It’s very early days but I don’t believe this sideways passing up the park from box to box will work at our level.

    Notice the Motherwell commentator said tonight that they were doing that when Alexander arrived but binned it fairly quickly.
    At the point of sacking Ross we didn’t have style or the results.

    We do need better players. We did before Ross was sacked and we do now he’s gone. Need to see how Maloney does when the has his own players, if we care to sign a few who are considered as being available to play.

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    We’re all foreplay and no penetration
    Ha ha. It's very safe though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Sitting on the M8 on the way through when I saw the team. Heart sank when I saw all three of Campbell, Newell and JDH playing. As soon as you see that you know there is going to be next to no creativity. And then the first sub is to bring Drey Wright on. Pish.
    Pretty much sums it up. I thought a 0-0 was as good a result as we could have hoped for when I saw the line up. I do think Campbell needs a spell out of the side. He's a young lad who hopefully has a bright future, but he seems to be going through the motions just now.

    Maloney has inherited a very imbalanced team, and he needs time to sort it out. I worry though that the fans are going to get increasingly irritated with the complete lack of creativity and lack of goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    Our budget is superior to Motherwell's and I believe we can acquire the type of players to play successfully this way.
    Imagine our academy producing players that can...

    Perhaps, if we give it time.
    Don’t get me wrong - I’m happy to give it time and be patient. I hope SM is able to be adaptable though.

    It’s not easy for Hibs to get high quality players though.

    My dig is just really aimed at people who were being far too quick to claim we had improved overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Celtic? Cove? This will end in disaster.
    Your not even giving him time, give it a rest eh.

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    I like what Maloney is trying to do with our team. Quite depressing that people can’t see the difference between what this team is trying to do compared to Ross’s.

    That said, we’ve got nowhere near the quality in the final third we need to pull it off.

    The fact he is still using Drey Wright and Josh Campbell is worrying. He needs to make the right noises about giving every one a chance but if he actually believes that and it wasn’t just media sound bites then that’s worrying. Both those players are absolutely miles and miles away from where we want to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    At the point of sacking Ross we didn’t have style or the results.

    We do need better players. We did before Ross was sacked and we do now he’s gone. Need to see how Maloney does when the has his own players, if we care to sign a few who are considered as being available to play.
    We didn’t and we showed we won’t hang about either. The owner will punt him if he doesn’t live up to the promises about the style of play and getting the fans back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Like Jack Ross was?
    He had his chance and paid the price, get behind Maloney and stop your whinging. FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Probably. Because we have sacked the best coach we could attract and replaced him with who knows what.

    Am I not want to want the best for our club?

    Sacking Jack Ross will turn out disasterous
    The best coach, your steaming

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    I like what Maloney is trying to do with our team. Quite depressing that people can’t see the difference between what this team is trying to do compared to Ross’s.

    That said, we’ve got nowhere near the quality in the final third we need to pull it off.

    The fact he is still using Drey Wright and Josh Campbell is worrying. He needs to make the right noises about giving every one a chance but if he actually believes that and it wasn’t just media sound bites then that’s worrying. Both those players are absolutely miles and miles away from where we want to be.
    I agree with this.

    I think the two players behind the striker are vital to how he wants to play and unfortunately we’re missing that.

    Mueller could prove to be one of them but I thought he was poor tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Side to side to side to side
    Zero through balls from midfield
    Zero shots on target
    Horrific


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    Our midfield three are awful though to be fair.

    I'd be pumping the majority of the money into that area. Then play Newell, Magennis and then a topper we sign with the Boyle money

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    Disasterous

    Sacking Jack Ross for this is mental

    Let’s anyone pretend they have a clue it’s better also.
    You should have followed Jack Ross Jesus seems you support him more than Hibs.

    These sort of teams take a while to build, particularly when Maloney inherited the squad that he did and has been unlucky with the new signings not being able to play.

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    While watching it, i didn't think Newall was quite as bad as some were making out,and the weather really did cause issues with regards to the quality of play (on both sides)

    That said, my attention wandered elsewhere a lot more than usual, I even looked at .net a few times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    my attention wandered elsewhere a lot more than usual, I even looked at .net a few times!
    Maybe that's where Shaun should've started looking, where the real football experts reside ;-)

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    He was really pleased with the performance.

    Jeez.

    It was horrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    Maybe that's where Shaun should've started looking, where the real football experts reside ;-)
    well you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time after all.

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