Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

***007*** · 09-01-2022 01:19 PM

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Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

If you're that bothered about what Jambos think then just point out they're on the verge of selling one of their best players for peanuts and we'll be getting up to £3m for Boyle who's 3 and half years older than Souttar. We could be getting 10 times what they get for Souttar.

***Billy Whizz*** · 09-01-2022 01:21 PM

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It seems that no clubs have offered us acceptable amounts of money for any of our players.

At the moment we’ve got the 2nd biggest squad in the League (31 players) after Celtic
We must have plans for at least 5/6 to move on in this window if we’re looking at a centre back

***Stuart93*** · 09-01-2022 01:22 PM

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We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

Don’t think he’s desperate to go but anyone who’s getting that kind of money dangled in front of them is naturally going to have their head turned imo

***Stuart93*** · 09-01-2022 01:23 PM

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At the moment we’ve got the 2nd biggest squad in the League (31 players) after Celtic
We must have plans for at least 5/6 to move on in this window if we’re looking at a centre back

Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us

**~~hibbyfraelibby~~** · 09-01-2022 01:26 PM

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Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us

They do...

***Billy Whizz*** · 09-01-2022 01:27 PM

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Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us

Rangers 30 and Dons 27

***HendoDelivered*** · 09-01-2022 01:27 PM

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I'd be totally fine with it, in fact I hope the deal goes through.

I don't think Boyle is nearly a good as is being made on here and he's nowhere near one of the best players in the league.

We should easily be able to spend that kind of money and get far better in.

Maybe Mueller is already here as his replacement?

Scary logic.

***easty*** · 09-01-2022 01:31 PM

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We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

Football doesn’t really work like that though, players get transferred while under contract all the time.

We just signed Melkerson, but I don’t think he forced the move.

**04Sauzee** · 09-01-2022 01:32 PM

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They do...

Hearts squad is much reduced, I'm sure we have a larger squad than them at the moment, may be different when we come out of the Jan window mind.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 09-01-2022 01:36 PM

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We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.

It does not have to be written down.

***WhileTheChief..*** · 09-01-2022 01:44 PM

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I wonder when the last time was that a Hibs player directly contributed to 33 goals in a calendar year was. Can't have happened very often, and to suggest we could easily get far better is nothing short of bonkers.

Bonkers to think we can't do any better than Martin Boyle??

Fair do's, I can live with that.

We'll move on and do fine without him.

***neil7908*** · 09-01-2022 01:45 PM

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You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.

It does not have to be written down.

You mean the same kind gentlemans agreement that Harry Kane and Spurs had? The one that proved totally useless when push came to shove.

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 09-01-2022 01:45 PM

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I think she’d happily put aside Hibs Women for a million pound coming into the family coffers.

I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

***Hibbyradge*** · 09-01-2022 01:47 PM

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You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.

I would think that's a certainty.

In any case, keeping a player against their will is not clever management.

People like Jim McLean used to do that. We ended up with the Bosman ruling.

***Stuart93*** · 09-01-2022 01:51 PM

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Rangers 30 and Dons 27

Not sure where you got those numbers but had a quick look at Rangers’ first team squad for this season and it has 37 players listed

**Since90+2** · 09-01-2022 01:52 PM

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Bonkers to think we can't do any better than Martin Boyle??

Fair do's, I can live with that.

We'll move on and do fine without him.

Did you not say far better? Boyle directly contributed to 33 goals in 2021. How many players have matched that in the last 2 decades at Hibs?

***silverhibee*** · 09-01-2022 01:52 PM

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I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

He may double his money, maybe even more by going abroad for a few years and it would be tax free, I’m sure he would consider it, he would be mad not to.

***Hibbyradge*** · 09-01-2022 01:54 PM

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I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

He is miles off it.

Taxation and NI means he'd lose nearly 50% of that salary in the UK.

Let's assume he's on one of the highest hibs.net estimates (guesses) i.e. £500k p.a.

His take home from that would be £276,035.84.

He'll keep it all in the middle east i.e. £1m or over £80k per month.

**Since90+2** · 09-01-2022 01:55 PM

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I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

If it's correct Boyle is on 10k a year his take home pay will be around £260k (before bonuses). If the figure of 20k per week is correct he'd be taking home £1 million a year, £750,000 a year more than he does at the moment.

***Hibbyradge*** · 09-01-2022 01:56 PM

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If it's correct Boyle is on 10k a year his take home pay will be around £260k (before bonuses). If the figure of 20k per week is correct he'd be taking home £1 million a year, £750,000 a year more than he does at the moment.

Correct. (£10k a week though).

**~~MWHIBBIES~~** · 09-01-2022 01:58 PM

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If it's correct Boyle is on 10k a year his take home pay will be around £260k (before bonuses). If the figure of 20k per week is correct he'd be taking home £1 million a year, £750,000 a year more than he does at the moment.

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He is miles off it.

Taxation and NI means he'd lose nearly 50% of that salary in the UK.

Let's assume he's on one of the highest hibs.net estimates (guesses) i.e. £500k p.a.

His take home from that would be £276,035.84.

He'll keep it all in the middle east i.e. £1m.

Originally Posted by silverhibee

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He may double his money, maybe even more by going abroad for a few years and it would be tax free, I’m sure he would consider it, he would be mad not to.

Of course, you are correct. I forget the tax freeness of it all over there.

Its a very good offer purely financially. With everything else taken into account, its certainly not that simple.

***Hibbyradge*** · 09-01-2022 02:00 PM

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Of course, you are correct. I forget the tax freeness of it all over there.

Its a very good offer purely financially. With everything else taken into account, its certainly not that simple.

Agreed. It's not a simple decision either way.

He's got a lot to think about.

**NC1875** · 09-01-2022 02:05 PM

Can we start a “Martin Boyles wages” thread.

And keep this for rumours and transfer news

***007*** · 09-01-2022 02:09 PM

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I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

Sound like you are saying Boyle's on nearly £1m per year after taxes with Hibs.

***scoopyboy*** · 09-01-2022 02:11 PM

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Can we start a “Martin Boyles wages” thread.

And keep this for rumours and transfer news

It surely is relevant though, we are discussing the merits of a rumoured Martin Boyle transfer!!!!!

***Billy Whizz*** · 09-01-2022 02:17 PM

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Not sure where you got those numbers but had a quick look at Rangers’ first team squad for this season and it has 37 players listed

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibe...ite/verein/903

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/glas...ite/verein/124

**Ronniekirk** · 09-01-2022 02:25 PM

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And if receiving £3m for that player allows us to build a better team, rather than 1 individual then that’s what the game is all about. One day in the next couple of years we won’t have Martin Boyle, I’d rather have £3m in his place to replace him rather than heehaw and scraping around with no guarantee that he’s brought us the success that would bring in that level of money.

When he signed the new contract and took the 500 grand escape clause out he was committing to hibs yet again
But also giving the Club a wee insurance policy that meant anyone wanting him would have to pay a decent fee
That’s the measure of the Guy
But like any player with speed as a key asset The Law of Diminishing Returns sets in and value starts to depreciate
You could argue Now is maybe the optimum time to sell him if the price is right and he wants to move as it sets his family up for life No one could possibly grudge him that
S J M was irreplaceable snd the way we have played Boyle makes as reliant on him at times But maybe just maybe Maloney can be the one to fashion a team that can play attractive football without him in the team

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