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    Maybe there is but he is up there in changes needing made. Maybe not a goal a game, but it feels like it sometimes.
    Single handedly won us a point at Livingston less than a fortnight ago.


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    Maybe there is but he is up there in changes needing made. Maybe not a goal a game, but it feels like it sometimes.
    All entitled to our opinions but he's nowhere near as bad as u r making out. Like a few u have rocky tinted specs on I think...lets concentrate on the bombsite defence in front of him this season before we start worrying about replacing the keeper...and I included the much praised Porteous in that who has cost us far more points/goals than Macey has this season thats for sure

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    What games has he been poor in that have cost us and who are the other 6 keepers that are better than him
    Gordon
    Hart
    McGregor
    McLaughlin
    Lewis
    Kelly
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    Clark.

    There's 8 goalkeepers in the league undoubtedly better. We sign Marshall we are top 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Single handedly won us a point at Livingston less than a fortnight ago.
    We lost in Livingston?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Gordon
    Hart
    McGregor
    McLaughlin
    Lewis
    Kelly
    Siegrist
    Clark.

    There's 8 goalkeepers in the league undoubtedly better. We sign Marshall we are top 4.
    Dundee Utd second choice is probably better too to be honest. Carson who used to be at Motherwell and is (I think) a Northern Ireland international.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76 View Post
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    All entitled to our opinions but he's nowhere near as bad as u r making out. Like a few u have rocky tinted specs on I think...lets concentrate on the bombsite defence in front of him this season before we start worrying about replacing the keeper...and I included the much praised Porteous in that who has cost us far more points/goals than Macey has this season thats for sure
    The reason I have Rocky tinted specs on is because he is a very good keeper. Like you said we obviously all have our opinions. But Macey isnt good enough. Dont disagree with you about the defense though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    We lost in Livingston?
    my bad saved us from an embarrassment. Not mine obviously.

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    I agree we could do better than macey but he is the least of the problems at Hibs.

    We need to start scoring more goals in games to take the pressure on relying on the defence all the time.

    We also need a battling midfield 8 games out of 10 as every player can have an off day or two.

    Not long to wait for the transfer window.

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    Graig Gordon is world class. If he wasn't a Jambo he'd be nowhere near Hearts. There's no way we'd get a keeper of that quality. Macey is probably the best we'll get. No worse than Marciano.
    Manuel Neuer is world class, no Craig Gordon.

    Hes a very good shotstopper, but world class? No chance. Gordon is about the same level as McGregor and Marciano. A very good spl keeper.

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    Gordon
    Hart
    McGregor
    McLaughlin
    Lewis
    Kelly
    Siegrist
    Clark.

    There's 8 goalkeepers in the league undoubtedly better. We sign Marshall we are top 4.
    Surely not JOE LEWIS? Maybe 3 years ago. Completely washed up now.

    Trust me, a goalie isn't the difference between us being top 4 and not. We won the cup with Conrad Logan ffs. Its the other 10 players who need sorting.

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    He’s not a terrible keeper, but he’s definitely a downgrade from last season, and I definitely think he shares responsibility for our defensive frailties this season.

    There’s more to being a keeper than making the occasional great stop. A keeper should have a presence, should command his area, the defence has to have confidence in him. To me, Macey doesn’t have any of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Gordon
    Hart
    McGregor
    McLaughlin
    Lewis
    Kelly
    Siegrist
    Clark.

    There's 8 goalkeepers in the league undoubtedly better. We sign Marshall we are top 4.
    First 2 and lewis ill give you, the rest is nonsense sorry

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    Dundee Utd second choice is probably better too to be honest. Carson who used to be at Motherwell and is (I think) a Northern Ireland international.
    Was going to mention him plus the Livi goalie but didn't want to be too disrespectful to out current No 1.

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    First 2 and lewis ill give you, the rest is nonsense sorry
    You think our goalie is better than Alan McGregor? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    You think our goalie is better than Alan McGregor? Seriously?
    I hadnt scrolled up to see gordon at the top of the list

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    He’s not a terrible keeper, but he’s definitely a downgrade from last season, and I definitely think he shares responsibility for our defensive frailties this season.

    There’s more to being a keeper than making the occasional great stop. A keeper should have a presence, should command his area, the defence has to have confidence in him. To me, Macey doesn’t have any of those things.
    Thing is Andy, he might, quite possibly in time.

    We can't be a work in progress though if we want to be up with the ambitions of the club. Right now you're right and we need better and exactly what you described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Maybe there is but he is up there in changes needing made. Maybe not a goal a game, but it feels like it sometimes.
    Do you have any stats to back up this “feeling”.

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    Now you are just talking utter rubbish
    Now now, I was quite respectful to your opinion I clearly don't agree with.

    Carson is a better goalie though and has been consistent for years. Liam Kelly is much better (we should have went for him) as is the Dundee Utd No1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldot View Post
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    First 2 and lewis ill give you, the rest is nonsense sorry
    If you actually believe that, you dont really understand the goalkeeping position.

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    Gordon
    Hart
    McGregor
    McLaughlin
    Lewis
    Kelly
    Siegrist
    Clark.

    There's 8 goalkeepers in the league undoubtedly better. We sign Marshall we are top 4.
    If that’s Joe Lewis on your list I do t think we need to take the discussion any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldot View Post
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    First 2 and lewis ill give you, the rest is nonsense sorry

    Joe Lewis has the lowest shot stopping percentage of any regular keeper in the top flight. Macey is, if I remember correctly, about seventh or eighth.

    You can get away with an average shot stopping ratio if the rest of your game is good and Macey has to improve on both just now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    If you actually believe that, you dont really understand the goalkeeping position.
    Apart from being a keeper for 10 years you may be correct, i also stated i hadnt even seen gordon on the list. What makes you a goalkeeping expert

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    Do you have any stats to back up this “feeling”.
    Is there any stat sites which shows the stats on him getting beaten at his near post, failing to come for crosses and his horrible passing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    If that’s Joe Lewis on your list I do t think we need to take the discussion any further.
    I don’t know what his forms been like this season but I’ve always been impressed with him in the past.

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    Apart from being a keeper for 10 years you may be correct, i also stated i hadnt even seen gordon on the list. What makes you a goalkeeping expert
    Im not an expert but played goalkeeper also and had numerous fairly well known coaches. If you watch him and cant see the obvious faults, thats on you.

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    I don’t know what his forms been like this season but I’ve always been impressed with him in the past.
    He’s been brutal for last 18 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Joe Lewis has the lowest shot stopping percentage of any regular keeper in the top flight. Macey is, if I remember correctly, about seventh or eighth.

    You can get away with an average shot stopping ratio if the rest of your game is good and Macey has to improve on both just now.
    Maceys distribution is horrendous definitely, he is actually good at coming for crosses, wish he would do it a bit more, he done it a few times yesterday with success

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    Maceys distribution is horrendous definitely, he is actually good at coming for crosses, wish he would do it a bit more, he done it a few times yesterday with success
    Mate. Your own message just pointed out a huge flaw. "wish he would do it a bit more". Yeah, thats a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Im not an expert but played goalkeeper also and had numerous fairly well known coaches. If you watch him and cant see the obvious faults, thats on you.
    So apart from his distribution what are his faults, good shot stopper although it could be said he needs to parry it out a bit wider, handling is pretty good, communication is good

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    Do you have any stats to back up this “feeling”.
    I've never in my life sat there watching any hibs player thinking to myself "I'm unsure of this player but I've never seen stats saying anything against so it's all good".

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