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    Ray Wilkins had zero pace/fitness while with us but had others around to do his running and dirty work, he still managed to play fantastic passes to teammates like jacko and Keith, we had a German guy on loan I wish we’d signed too, Thorsten Shmugge IIRC
    Ray Wilkins was absolutely honking at hibs.


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    Massive fan of Lewis, but think him having an off night made Allan's defensive contributions considerably more noticeable.

    Edit- lack of defensive contributions I meant

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    Wouldn’t have said he was as brilliant as some are making out, nor was the pass he made to Newell.

    Thats not to say he never played well, I just think some overhype what he does sometimes because it is Allan.

    It was a good reverse pass to Newell for the goal who finished well but the keeper will be disappointed he never saved it.

    I never minded him left wing and actually thought he worked really hard and you could see that by some of the challenges he was putting in. The booking halted his tackles and pressing as you could see he was nervous getting another.

    Great technique for the goal.

    It’s brilliant to see him back in the team and getting goals and assists. As a team we need to start dominating the ball more though and getting our forward players on it more often.

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    Couldbe wrong, but is that not 3 assists and a goal for our last 5 goals?

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    Love Scott Allan and want him playing but would be happy never to see him out wide again.
    Think Lewis Stevenson might agree!
    Played well and had a goal and an assist. Don’t really see the issue.

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    The boys magic. Worked hard in tracking back, unlucky to be booked so early. He plays he contributes. That's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    Played well and had a goal and an assist. Don’t really see the issue.
    The constant two against ones including their goal were an issue.
    I want him in the team just not out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    The constant two against ones including their goal were an issue.
    I want him in the team just not out there.
    This. I thought he was heading for a red. He really can’t tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    The constant two against ones including their goal were an issue.
    I want him in the team just not out there.
    As has been discussed in the thread, that’s what we have to weigh up in terms of risk. It worked tonight, wouldn’t rule it out again.

    Did a fair amount of tracking back in the first half tbf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    The constant two against ones including their goal were an issue.
    I want him in the team just not out there.
    Me too, i'd play him central and have Newell on the bench. Allan in front of JDH and Kyle M.

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    QUOTE=greenlex;6702931]This. I thought he was heading for a red. He really can’t tackle.[/QUOTE]

    Actually had one of the best tackles of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    QUOTE=greenlex;6702931]This. I thought he was heading for a red. He really can’t tackle.
    Actually had one of the best tackles of the night.[/QUOTE]
    It wasn’t really. He never made contact with the ball at any point and it was the boy that made a mess of it. To ge fair he put the challenge in and caused the boy to mess it up but it wasn’t a great tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc View Post
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    Massive fan of Lewis, but think him having an off night made Allan's defensive contributions considerably more noticeable.

    Edit- lack of defensive contributions I meant
    I don't think Lewis had an off night myself. And Scott Allan was mixing it well for the time he was on the park and only started to flag defensively the last 5/10 before he was subbed.

    Another brilliant performance from him in a game no one else really stepped up to offer anything and easily deserves man of the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    As has been discussed in the thread, that’s what we have to weigh up in terms of risk. It worked tonight, wouldn’t rule it out again.

    Did a fair amount of tracking back in the first half tbf.
    He did to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I don't think Lewis had an off night myself. And Scott Allan was mixing it well for the time he was on the park and only started to flag defensively the last 5/10 before he was subbed.

    Another brilliant performance from him in a game no one else really stepped up to offer anything and easily deserves man of the match.

    Opinions eh. Thought lewis struggled at times, but a win is a win so not fussed about the rest. Just want more Scotty gametime

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    Some players careers are just intertwined with certain clubs and scotty Allan is ingrained in hibs folklore,the way he set the standard when he first signed to the way he left us for Celtic.then in his absence we built a really good side with mcginn coming in and lifted the cup.whilst Allan then coming back and proving to the fans he still had business in a hibs shirt.he grew a real appreciation for what the hibs fans gave him back.then how he had his health issues and fought his way back to getting in the first team,to now bringing a bit of life to the side.still an integral squad member with hopefully another gear to reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc View Post
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    Opinions eh. Thought lewis struggled at times, but a win is a win so not fussed about the rest. Just want more Scotty gametime
    Won't disagree with you on that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Me too, i'd play him central and have Newell on the bench. Allan in front of JDH and Kyle M.
    I thought Newell had a great first half and did more for the team than anyone. I love Scottie and it was great to see him start a match but IMO he still needs more game time. Fitting him in and finding his best position in this team is very difficult. Play him anywhere in midfield or up front and he will have flashes of brilliance during a game but we need him where he can be an influence over the whole game (or as long as he can last in a match) and then we will have the player we know he can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Me too, i'd play him central and have Newell on the bench. Allan in front of JDH and Kyle M.
    Our middle 3 were very good today. It’s really hard to drop one. Hence the issue with JR having to find an area to get Allan on the pitch.

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    Tonight was the Allan we know and love.

    Fitting him in the team will always be tricky however. His defensive limitations means he can't play a deep central role and if he's wide left, then we need Stevenson at LB for balance rather than Doig. If we play him centrally, then Magennis either has to play wide left or we omit one of Newell or Doyle-Hayes with Magennis dropping back.

    Nice problem to have though.
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    Me too, i'd play him central and have Newell on the bench. Allan in front of JDH and Kyle M.
    Up there with one of the worst shouts on here. Newell is consistently the stand out and was so yet again tonight.

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    Said it before I’ll say it again, who ever was sanctioning Allan leaving should be questioned. Plenty still on our books before he should be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Our middle 3 were very good today. It’s really hard to drop one. Hence the issue with JR having to find an area to get Allan on the pitch.
    I thought JDH was poor, becoming too negative and players getting past him easily. Hopefully he's still to get back up to speed after his illness, and it's not going to become the norm.

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    I thought JDH was poor, becoming too negative and players getting past him easily. Hopefully he's still to get backup to speed after his illness, and it's not going to become the norm.
    Harsh

    I think United had 3 central bodies in there and newell was often walk about and made jdh look useless when trying to mark 2

    Fine player there

    Least of our concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1875 View Post
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    I thought JDH was poor, becoming too negative and players getting past him easily. Hopefully he's still to get back up to speed after his illness, and it's not going to become the norm.
    Can’t have that for a second. They got almost nothing through the middle. He’s been our best player this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    Harsh

    I think United had 3 central bodies in there and newell was often walk about and made jdh look useless when trying to mark 2

    Fine player there

    Least of our concerns
    They had one midfield player that dominated the midfield Fuchs, that's the role JDH is supposed to play for us, picking the ball up deep and starting attacks. He looks to pass backwards too often, for me anyway. His first few games he was all over the pitch and always looking for a forward pass, that isn't happening just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Can’t have that for a second. They got almost nothing through the middle. He’s been our best player this season
    They dominated the middle?

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    I've never really bought into the idea that Allan wasn't willing to get involved defensively, but that he really struggled to do it. He can't chase, his tackling is clumsy, and there were instances of it today.

    On the other hand, he has a goal and an assist.

    It's a real conundrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1875 View Post
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    They dominated the middle?
    They didn’t. Chances came mostly from left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1875 View Post
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    They had one midfield player that dominated the midfield Fuchs, that's the role JDH is supposed to play for us, picking the ball up deep and starting attacks. He looks to pass backwards too often, for me anyway. His first few games he was all over the pitch and always looking for a forward pass, that isn't happening just now.
    Fuchs did almost nothing. If he got past newell, JDH nipped the ball of him. He reminded me of the Ojo that so many wanted. All huff , puff with no purpose.

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