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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    Just be grateful it wasn't chaos with Ed Miliband.
    Strong and stable it’s easy to forget how much nonsense they’ve spouted since the Cameron days.


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    Tory manifesto promise broken again.

    BREAKING Triple lock on pensions has been SCRAPPED for 2022/23

    It means pensions will NOT rise by 8% next April. Instead will rise by inflation (or 2.5%).

    Therese Coffey says it's to stop pensioners "unfairly benefiting from a statistical anomaly".

    Is only for one year
    An age group that have overwhelmingly voted Tory despite seeing the poor shafted, small business owners shafted, the young shafted, our friends in the UK originally from the EU shafted, industries shafted, minorities shafted, the majority of us shafted now surprised that it’s their turn to feel it,

    Forgive me if my sympathy levels are at absolutely zero for anyone who voted for this lot.


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    An age group that have overwhelmingly voted Tory despite seeing the poor shafted, small business owners shafted, the young shafted, our friends in the UK originally from the EU shafted, industries shafted, minorities shafted, the majority of us shafted now surprised that it’s their turn to feel it,

    Forgive me if my sympathy levels are at absolutely zero for anyone who voted for this lot.
    Agreed. They made their bed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    imagine (anti-semite) corbyn presided over a 8% rise in food prices.
    Imagine (anti-semite) corbyn presided over 100,000 covid deaths.
    Imagine (anti-semite) corbyn gave cash bribes to taliban.

    Imagine the press reaction.

    ftfy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy View Post
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    Agreed. They made their bed...

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    I like to think I've developed a modicum of forgiveness and compassion in my old age but Tory voters can stew in the cesspit of their own making.

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    As if any more proof was needed to confirm Williamson as a total arse.

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    Well, who saw that coming, Dom?

    ******* ****.

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    Well, who saw that coming, Dom?

    ******* ****.
    Is this that levelling up thing we keep hearing about?



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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Well, who saw that coming, Dom?

    ******* ****.
    I don’t understand what DCs motivation is. He’s just careering about social media like a wrecking ball attacking the men and women he put in power, oblivious to the fact he’s much more unpopular than they are.

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    Well, who saw that coming, Dom?

    ******* ****.
    He is right but what a total ****bag. He is part of the machine that creates the spin that convinces the desperate and hard of thinking working person to vote Tory. He needs to look in the mirror and start to see he and his type are at least as big a problem as the Tories as they enable them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    He is right but what a total ****bag. He is part of the machine that creates the spin that convinces the desperate and hard of thinking working person to vote Tory. He needs to look in the mirror and start to see he and his type are at least as big a problem as the Tories as they enable them.
    Agreed, he even admitted it was all spin... the £350 on the bus was an example he used... made up and not easily challenged at the time, and when it could be it was too late and after the the fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Agreed, he even admitted it was all spin... the £350 on the bus was an example he used... made up and not easily challenged at the time, and when it could be it was too late and after the the fact
    They lie, admit they lied yet people go on believing them. Maybe it's because it's British lies -not like the Communist lies you would have to swallow if what's his name had been elected.

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    nuff said


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    I support the idea of free social care for all the elderly who need it in the UK. It should be fully incorporated into the NHS, which means minimal private care homes. We all pay in, as we do for hospitals, and then residential care is free at the point of use for those who need it. That means everyone pays in throughout their working lives; however, once again the Tories put the cost into the laps of lower paid workers, increasing NI contributions from 12 per cent to 13.25 on earnings below fifty thousand. However, above that amount the increase is from just 2 to 3 per cent. REMOVE THE CAP at 50,000; indeed, like income tax, make NI rates higher the more one earns. This would create a massive boost for the NHS, social care and pensions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    As if any more proof was needed to confirm Williamson as a total arse.
    Mind you it is very difficult to tell them apart, isn't it?

    Stupid Tory ministers I mean.

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    I support the idea of free social care for all the elderly who need it in the UK. It should be fully incorporated into the NHS, which means minimal private care homes. We all pay in, as we do for hospitals, and then residential care is free at the point of use for those who need it. That means everyone pays in throughout their working lives; however, once again the Tories put the cost into the laps of lower paid workers, increasing NI contributions from 12 per cent to 13.25 on earnings below fifty thousand. However, above that amount the increase is from just 2 to 3 per cent. REMOVE THE CAP at 50,000; indeed, like income tax, make NI rates higher the more one earns. This would create a massive boost for the NHS, social care and pensions.
    I think we should just scrap NI altogether, roll it into income tax and be done with it. Regressive and confusing.

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    I see Johnson is planning to increase National Insurance across the whole of the UK, to help fund things like Social Care.... in England.

    If you need this money, why not just be honest and increase the upper tax rate by one per cent, as has been done in Scotland?
    £1.1 billion of the expected £12 billion raised will be given to the Scottish government. That's almost double the £660 million which (according to the Scottish government) it will cost to establish a new national care service in Scotland. Hard to see how that can be regarded as bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    £1.1 billion of the expected £12 billion raised will be given to the Scottish government. That's almost double the £660 million which (according to the Scottish government) it will cost to establish a new national care service in Scotland. Hard to see how that can be regarded as bad news.
    It’s bad news for people on lower wages who are disproportionately shouldering the burden of paying this tax?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It’s bad news for people on lower wages who are disproportionately shouldering the burden of paying this tax?


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    Hard to see how anyone cannot see that for what it is. Rich robbing the poor, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Hard to see how anyone cannot see that for what it is. Rich robbing the poor, again.

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    Unfortunately quite a few of the victims seem happy with the perpetrators. Bonkers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Hard to see how anyone cannot see that for what it is. Rich robbing the poor, again.
    " ****, some people have noticed what we're doing there. How did that happen? I know, let's make up a story about two blondes in government having a personality clash and let it be known to Kuenssberg and Peston. That'll take their minds off the NI scam."

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    There are only *three* Tory seats where home ownership is below 50%.

    This is one reason why the government is taxing work, not wealth. https://newstatesman.com/politics/ec...home-ownership

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    £1.1 billion of the expected £12 billion raised will be given to the Scottish government. That's almost double the £660 million which (according to the Scottish government) it will cost to establish a new national care service in Scotland. Hard to see how that can be regarded as bad news.
    Hard to see??

    More money to be paid out by those who can least afford it whilst the affluent are untouched or get a better deal. It'd be hard to find a more Tory-esque policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Hard to see??

    More money to be paid out by those who can least afford it whilst the affluent are untouched or get a better deal. It'd be hard to find a more Tory-esque policy.
    It takes all types.

    My guess is some pensioners will lap it up. For the life of me, I can't understand why labour voters are doing so though.

    Bonkers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    It takes all types.

    My guess is some pensioners will lap it up. For the life of me, I can't understand why labour voters are doing so though.

    Bonkers
    Because some former Labour voters are lapping up the thought of boats of refugees being turned back in the channel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Because some former Labour voters are lapping up the thought of boats of refugees being turned back in the channel.


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    Exactly. The red wall will be loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    £1.1 billion of the expected £12 billion raised will be given to the Scottish government. That's almost double the £660 million which (according to the Scottish government) it will cost to establish a new national care service in Scotland. Hard to see how that can be regarded as bad news.
    How much of the 1.1 billion will be raised in Scotland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    £1.1 billion of the expected £12 billion raised will be given to the Scottish government. That's almost double the £660 million which (according to the Scottish government) it will cost to establish a new national care service in Scotland. Hard to see how that can be regarded as bad news.

    But wouldn't it have been a better idea just to tax the well off instead, and not disproportionately take money from those that are already struggling?

    As I already said, I personally think they should have raised the current 40% tax rate, as they've done in Scotland. I'm one of the lucky people that now pays 41% and I personally have no problem with that, as it's surely the fairest solution.

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