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And if you look at that statistically it will be a much higher frequency as there are many times more vaccinated than unvaccinated.
For the numbers just now you would need to multiply the number of unvaccinated people in hospital by about 7 or 8 to have a meaningful comparison.
Too simplistic due to the age profiles of those in hospital and those who are vaccinated. Most higher proportion of vaccinated people are over 30 and they are more likely to be struck harder by covid, vaccinated or not.

For all I am arguing about the Passport I have no issue with saying the vaccine is effective and hope most will take it(they have in far larger numbers than ever anticipated). Barring the younger generations we probably have went beyond the herd immunity that was always planned.

This, for me, is about people being excluded from events and proof being required to enter. This isn't Facebook or Google collecting data this is our government excluding citizens from events on the basis of choices they have made. I get the argument that it is safer for vaccinated people to gather in groups and I get the fact that you can't make it black or white. There are more questions than answers for me in terms of where the line has been drawn and what the proof is behind large outdoor events being major spreaders. Schools and colleges should all be closed again if the Government are that bothered about numbers of cases. Make it mandatory for vaccinations rather than coercing if it is for the greater good.

It has been asked before in the thread but not sure it has been answered. Why would someone who is medically exempt be allowed into a game without being vaccinated while someone who simply chose not to be vaccinated is excluded. They both pose the same risk to others. In deed what is the criteria for exemption, is there one and how do you qualify, is it self-certification like many equalities issues are?

It will be a hard choice for me if the rule is brought in. I'm double vaxxed but I may decide to ask for a ST refund if I need to prove I am. The bit of paper doesn't make me less likely to infect anyone else. I see it as a slippery slope and Governments will see how easily they can withdraw freedoms looking at this thread they have won that battle already.