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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    That happens way more than it should, it’s like folk get insecure about being overtaken or something.
    Being overtaken is a sign of weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    The speeding up thing is apparently a subconscious reaction, it’s really not being done on purpose. I vaguely remember reading an explanation of it, something from our long distant past when being chased by wild animals was a daily occurrence.
    Probably true. It only happens to me when I'm driving my Jaguar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Probably true. It only happens to me when I'm driving my Jaguar.
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    Is that a Jaguar or a top of the range Mondeo from when Ford owned them?

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    People who have no idea what a slip road is for

    joining the bypass at Straiton heading west earlier, and someone 3 cars ahead thinks it’s fine to not use the slip road to accelerate up to a sensible speed in line with the faster traffic on the bypass, topping out at 30, meaning there’s 4+ vehicles now having to try to join a much faster flowing body of traffic in a short space of road with a large difference in speed, bloody dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    People who have no idea what a slip road is for

    joining the bypass at Straiton heading west earlier, and someone 3 cars ahead thinks it’s fine to not use the slip road to accelerate up to a sensible speed in line with the faster traffic on the bypass, topping out at 30, meaning there’s 4+ vehicles now having to try to join a much faster flowing body of traffic in a short space of road with a large difference in speed, bloody dangerous
    They should call it what it is an "acceleration lane". That might help some people understand what it's for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    They should call it what it is an "acceleration lane". That might help some people understand what it's for.

    totally agree, I debated whether to actually say that in my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by AltheHibby View Post
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    🙄

    Is that a Jaguar or a top of the range Mondeo from when Ford owned them?
    Just a bad attempt at a "wild animals" pun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Just a bad attempt at a "wild animals" pun.
    It's the wind up I used on a mate who had a Jaguar of that vintage. Apparently, they used the Mondeo floorpan, and ad I drove an Escort Ghia, I told him our cars were both the top of the range versions. .Net will ban me if I try to post his reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AltheHibby View Post
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    It's the wind up I used on a mate who had a Jaguar of that vintage. Apparently, they used the Mondeo floorpan, and ad I drove an Escort Ghia, I told him our cars were both the top of the range versions. .Net will ban me if I try to post his reply!
    The interior of jags at that time were like fords with an extra helping of wood and leather. It’s taken the Indians to finally drag Jaguar into the 21st century.

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    People who have no idea what a slip road is for

    joining the bypass at Straiton heading west earlier, and someone 3 cars ahead thinks it’s fine to not use the slip road to accelerate up to a sensible speed in line with the faster traffic on the bypass, topping out at 30, meaning there’s 4+ vehicles now having to try to join a much faster flowing body of traffic in a short space of road with a large difference in speed, bloody dangerous
    Happened to me last week getting on the bypass coming back from Hermisten gate going towards maybury. All traffic light controlled because of entrance to m9. Car in front went off like a rocket then stopped accelerating at about 30 going uphill to join the bypass.absolute idiot.

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    The whole area around Leith walk is just a total disaster. What a mess they've made of it. Just avoid it in your car at all costs if you can.

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    Speed bumps that aren’t properly marked so you often don’t realise it’s there before it’s too late.
    I hit one yesterday at god knows what speed, I didn't know if I'd launched myself into space or broke my back.

    Before this month I had only driven when I had to rent a car (not very often) and now I'm driving almost daily in Buenos Aires, both the grey hair and receding hairline are making rapid progress

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    Sure this will have been raised already, but indicating right when going straight on at a roundabout. Just why? What's wrong with a system of indicating left when you're turning left, indicating right when you're turning right, and not indicating when you're not turning? Which genius decided that system could be improved on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Sure this will have been raised already, but indicating right when going straight on at a roundabout. Just why? What's wrong with a system of indicating left when you're turning left, indicating right when you're turning right, and not indicating when you're not turning? Which genius decided that system could be improved on?
    Maybe a German? In Germany you only indicate when leaving the roundabout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Sure this will have been raised already, but indicating right when going straight on at a roundabout. Just why? What's wrong with a system of indicating left when you're turning left, indicating right when you're turning right, and not indicating when you're not turning? Which genius decided that system could be improved on?
    You were lucky getting a signal.

    Today was obviously National Non-indicating Day, given the f'wittery I saw between here and Fife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Maybe a German? In Germany you only indicate when leaving the roundabout.
    I get that if you're fogetful here, or a German, you might turn right at a roundabout without having indicated right. What I don't get, whatever nationality you are, is indicating right but then going straight on. Mental!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    You were lucky getting a signal.
    I'd rather no signal than a mental signal. We all forget to do things from time to time on the roads, but only a small number of us do mental. There's enough people do the 'indicate right while approaching a roundabout then go straight on' to make me suspect that some instructors are teaching it or there's a Facebook/Twitter group egging each other on. *******s either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I'd rather no signal than a mental signal. We all forget to do things from time to time on the roads, but only a small number of us do mental. There's enough people do the 'indicate right while approaching a roundabout then go straight on' to make me suspect that some instructors are teaching it or there's a Facebook/Twitter group egging each other on. *******s either way.
    I was taught that early 80s. Along with leaving the roundabout into the left hand lane. A lot fewer duel roundabouts back then and the square root of fall of roundabouts splitting into 3 &4 lanes depending on size. You should then indicate left as soon as you pass the first exit. This signal your intent to those who were waiting from the either side.
    These days indicators seem random. Fortunatly those of us who are one with The Force understand whats happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Rourke3 View Post
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    I was taught that early 80s.
    Highway Code, Rule 186, roundabouts, is quite clear: Unless you're turning left or right, or doing full 360 degrees,

    you should not normally need to signal on approach

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Highway Code, Rule 186, roundabouts, is quite clear: Unless you're turning left or right, or doing full 360 degrees,

    you should not normally need to signal on approach
    As it should be. I was commenting on what I was taught. I'd be lying if I said I knew that was the rule in the HC in 1980.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Highway Code, Rule 186, roundabouts, is quite clear: Unless you're turning left or right, or doing full 360 degrees,

    you should not normally need to signal on approach

    Going straight ahead at a roundabout
    Unless road markings indicate otherwise, you should use the left lane when going straight ahead. There's no need to signal on approach. Make sure you stay in your lane as you go around the roundabout. When you've passed the exit before the one you need to take, signal left and exit.. Folk who signal riight are clueless.

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    Going straight ahead at a roundabout
    Unless road markings indicate otherwise, you should use the left lane when going straight ahead. There's no need to signal on approach. Make sure you stay in your lane as you go around the roundabout. When you've passed the exit before the one you need to take, signal left and exit.. Folk who signal riight are clueless.
    it does let the clueless ***** coming onto the roundabout know you're definitely not taking the exit they imagined you were

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Going straight ahead at a roundabout
    Unless road markings indicate otherwise, you should use the left lane when going straight ahead. There's no need to signal on approach. Make sure you stay in your lane as you go around the roundabout. When you've passed the exit before the one you need to take, signal left and exit.. Folk who signal riight are clueless.
    If I ever find myself arrested for a road rage incident, it will inevitably be as a result of someone not indicating correctly on a roundabout.

    The worst are the ones who see you waiting for them to go round past you so you can join and then take the exit before you without signalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    The worst are the ones who see you waiting for them to go round past you so you can join and then take the exit before you without signalling.
    That's bad in general though there may be some occasions when exits are so close together that you're annoying someone whatever you do with your signalling. I suppose the five roads junction at Eskbank might come into that category, but worse is a (non-roundabout) couple of exits off the A702 heading south out of Edinburgh just after the ski slope where there are two exits to the left (Old Pentland Rd and A703) barely a sixpence apart. When are you supposed to indicate for taking the second exit?

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    I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before but it’s really annoying me again. Drivers who join a queue of traffic at the lights, they stop, leaving a big gap to the car in front, you stop behind them and then they begin edging closer to the car in front. Just drive up to the car in front and stop at reasonable distance ffs. It’s leading to irrational levels of hatred in me that’s just not healthy. 🤬

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    That's bad in general though there may be some occasions when exits are so close together that you're annoying someone whatever you do with your signalling. I suppose the five roads junction at Eskbank might come into that category, but worse is a (non-roundabout) couple of exits off the A702 heading south out of Edinburgh just after the ski slope where there are two exits to the left (Old Pentland Rd and A703) barely a sixpence apart. When are you supposed to indicate for taking the second exit?
    Having pondered that one many's a time I've settled on just before the first exit if taking A703. Late enough that anything waiting to come out of Old Pentland Road doesn't have time to pull out in front of you but still as early as possible to give any cars waiting to come out of A703 a fighting chance of taking advantage of the gap in traffic. Like you say, there's no perfect answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
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    Having pondered that one many's a time I've settled on just before the first exit if taking A703. Late enough that anything waiting to come out of Old Pentland Road doesn't have time to pull out in front of you but still as early as possible to give any cars waiting to come out of A703 a fighting chance of taking advantage of the gap in traffic. Like you say, there's no perfect answer.


    A tunnel from Flotterstone to Dreghorn would alleviate much of this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before but it’s really annoying me again. Drivers who join a queue of traffic at the lights, they stop, leaving a big gap to the car in front, you stop behind them and then they begin edging closer to the car in front. Just drive up to the car in front and stop at reasonable distance ffs. It’s leading to irrational levels of hatred in me that’s just not healthy.
    Last two trips to Porty and its the same at Sheriffhall. The gap to the car in front got to close to 100yds first time to the point they missed the lights by not increasing their(and everyone else else's, speed. Took off like a jet on the Millerhill Road and not slowing through Newton Caught up when they got caught in the temp lights.

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    Or people who creep forward at the front of the q waiting for the red light to change only to take ages to pull away when they do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patch1875 View Post
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    Or people who creep forward at the front of the q waiting for the red light to change only to take ages to pull away when they do!
    And occupy the box 'reserved' for cyclists. Transit van drivers and private hire cars the main culprits.
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