Coronavirus

[greenlex]

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I'm actually getting quite scared by where this world will be in a few years. The sheer number of people that believe truly stupid things is frightening.

It's just not that they believe (plenty of folk will have supported other conspiracy theories in the past around things like the JFK assassination), it's they seem to increasingly take major life decisions based on mad things they've seen online.

Stupid people are stupid people. They have always been around. They just have a platform now mores the pity.

[degenerated]

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Plants love electrolytes

[Kato]

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Stupid people are stupid people. They have always been around. They just have a platform now mores the pity.

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[calumhibee1]

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[Sir David Gray]

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

Glasgow - 193
Edinburgh - 154
Fife - 135
South Lanarkshire - 124
North Lanarkshire - 110
Highland - 56
Renfrewshire - 55
Aberdeenshire - 55
North Ayrshire - 53
West Lothian - 41
West Dunbartonshire - 40
East Lothian - 39
Aberdeen - 37
South Ayrshire - 35
Dundee - 34
East Ayrshire - 33
Falkirk - 32
Dumfries and Galloway - 30
Perth and Kinross - 27
East Renfrewshire - 27
Inverclyde - 24
Stirling - 23
East Dunbartonshire - 23
Clackmannanshire - 23
Scottish Borders - 20
Midlothian - 19
Angus - 18
Moray - 15
Argyll and Bute - 14
Orkney - 4
Shetland - 1
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 1

[Sir David Gray]

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 47,091,889 (89.9% of adult population)

Wales - 2,305,562 (92.2% of adult population)
England - 39,516,037 (89.8% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,029,479 (89.5% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,240,811 (85.6% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,688,566 (75.7% of adult population)

Wales - 2,118,707 (84.7% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,094,987 (75.5% of adult population)
England - 33,117,069 (75.3% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,357,803 (74.6% of adult population)

Daily update - first dose;

UK - 47,129,400 (89.9% of adult population)

Wales - 2,307,504 (92.3% of adult population)
England - 39,544,351 (89.9% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,034,420 (89.7% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,243,125 (85.7% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,839,709 (76% of adult population)

Wales - 2,123,159 (84.9% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,100,236 (75.9% of adult population)
England - 33,240,790 (75.5% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,375,524 (75% of adult population)

[lord bunberry]

Is anyone else getting annoyed at these venues insisting on negative tests when it’s not required by law? I have to say it’s really pissing me off, what does someone who runs a club or venue know that the government doesn’t. We’ve all done our time and followed the rules, but suddenly some faceless clown decides he knows better than the government. Social distancing is over and we 100% don’t need to prove anything before we enter a venue.

[Haymaker]

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Is anyone else getting annoyed at these venues insisting on negative tests when it’s not required by law? I have to say it’s really pissing me off, what does someone who runs a club or venue know that the government doesn’t. We’ve all done our time and followed the rules, but suddenly some faceless clown decides he knows better than the government. Social distancing is over and we 100% don’t need to prove anything before we enter a venue.

I can only assume they don't want to be the venue/business that has a covid outbreak linked to them should one occur? If one is they can say "we asked for proof" etc

[lord bunberry]

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I can only assume they don't want to be the venue/business that has a covid outbreak linked to them should one occur? If one is they can say "we asked for proof" etc

But if they just follow the current guidelines then surely they’re all good. Why are venues asking for test results when it’s not required? It’s over now let’s get on with it for **** sake.

[SChibs]

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But if they just follow the current guidelines then surely they’re all good. Why are venues asking for test results when it’s not required? It’s over now let’s get on with it for **** sake.

Is it not because an asymptomatic customer infects a member of staff who get symptoms and test positive other members may also have to isolate. May affect the premises ability to open if they are short staffed

[Bristolhibby]

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Is it not because an asymptomatic customer infects a member of staff who get symptoms and test positive other members may also have to isolate. May affect the premises ability to open if they are short staffed

Also their business, their rules.

There will be plenty of people attracted to that business by their measures.

J

[Skol]

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Also their business, their rules.

There will be plenty of people attracted to that business by their measures.

J

Yep, they can do what they want and people can choose if they go or not.

A bit like the Canny Mans back in the day when you could get refused entry/ejected for whatever spurious reason the owner came up with. After about 3 or 4 unsuccessful attempts to get in, we just took our trade elsewhere.

[Pretty Boy]

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Is anyone else getting annoyed at these venues insisting on negative tests when it’s not required by law? I have to say it’s really pissing me off, what does someone who runs a club or venue know that the government doesn’t. We’ve all done our time and followed the rules, but suddenly some faceless clown decides he knows better than the government. Social distancing is over and we 100% don’t need to prove anything before we enter a venue.

I don't particularly mind doing the test but I didn't appreciate it being sprung on me at the last minute. If it was made clear at the point of booking or sale then fine.

I received an email from the Corn Exchange 2 days before I was due to attend advising me that proof of a negative test was now policy. I'm OK because I have a pile of tests in the house, if I didn't it could have been a bit of a panic.

It's just a box ticking excercise anyway. It's a self reported result where you tick a box saying if the test was positive, negative or inconclusive. If I was inclined to lie about such things I could test positive, tick negative and have a text as 'proof' of that status and go about my business. How would anyone know different? It's not something I would do but it's hardly a foolproof system.

[Skol]

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I don't particularly mind doing the test but I didn't appreciate it being sprung on me at the last minute. If it was made clear at the point of booking or sale then fine.

I received an email from the Corn Exchange 2 days before I was due to attend advising me that proof of a negative test was now policy. I'm OK because I have a pile of tests in the house, if I didn't it could have been a bit of a panic.

It's just a box ticking excercise anyway. It's a self reported result where you tick a box saying if the test was positive, negative or inconclusive. If I was inclined to lie about such things I could test positive, tick negative and have a text as 'proof' of that status and go about my business. How would anyone know different? It's not something I would do but it's hardly a foolproof system.

There will be some idiots who would do this, but I guess they are hoping most people are responsible and if they test positive they will isolate and stop the risk of spreading.

[McSwanky]

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Is anyone else getting annoyed at these venues insisting on negative tests when it’s not required by law? I have to say it’s really pissing me off, what does someone who runs a club or venue know that the government doesn’t. We’ve all done our time and followed the rules, but suddenly some faceless clown decides he knows better than the government. Social distancing is over and we 100% don’t need to prove anything before we enter a venue.

An interesting viewpoint. I'm not sure why you should think that people should simply stop disagreeing with the Government now that the rules have been relaxed, people have been doing that all the way through this pandemic.

[Moulin Yarns]

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It’s over now let’s get on with it for **** sake.

Oh look!! I usually respect your posts but you have said exactly what I predicted people would say.


Covid is not over, will probably never be over, and there will need to be some form of mitigation for some time to come.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Yep, they can do what they want and people can choose if they go or not.

A bit like the Canny Mans back in the day when you could get refused entry/ejected for whatever spurious reason the owner came up with. After about 3 or 4 unsuccessful attempts to get in, we just took our trade elsewhere.

I came across this attitude at the Lloyd's bar (wetherspoons) in the Omni Centre, no trainers allowed!! Slug and Lettuce was enjoying the extra business.

[WeeRussell]

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Is anyone else getting annoyed at these venues insisting on negative tests when it’s not required by law? I have to say it’s really pissing me off, what does someone who runs a club or venue know that the government doesn’t. We’ve all done our time and followed the rules, but suddenly some faceless clown decides he knows better than the government. Social distancing is over and we 100% don’t need to prove anything before we enter a venue.

Nope. If anything I’m glad to see businesses still taking things seriously. It might help protect others when idiots who have announced the virus is over come along having not taken care of themselves.

[Since90+2]

It's maybe just me but it certainly feels like this is over, before people jump on that I realise it's not, covid will be around in some form in perpetuity, but it's feels as if we are back to normal.

Football stadiums full capacity, pubs open with barely no restrictions, gigs taking place, summer festivals going ahead and nightclubs open.

It's been a long slog the past 16 months but it does genuinely feel as though life is almost normal again. Personally, I'm delighted with that.

[Skol]

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I came across this attitude at the Lloyd's bar (wetherspoons) in the Omni Centre, no trainers allowed!! Slug and Lettuce was enjoying the extra business.

No trainers / jeans were two reasons despite that rule not applying to others who were already in. One night it was 'Hugo's testimonial'. There was an infamous saturday afternoon we got in to a virtually empty bar and had ordered 4 pints, 3 of which were poured when the owner appeared. Sorry lads, you are too young. We produced our ID to prove we were all over 21. Sorry, its over 25s only. Beat it. Never again tried after that

[Callum_62]

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Oh look!! I usually respect your posts but you have said exactly what I predicted people would say.


Covid is not over, will probably never be over, and there will need to be some form of mitigation for some time to come.

"learning to live with it"



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[Sir David Gray]

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has said that the country's borders will remain closed until at least the end of the year.

She said an elimination strategy was the best way to keep Covid-19 out and the economy open.

The prime minister also said New Zealand would move to a new individual risk-based model for quarantine-free travel from the start of next year.

She stressed the priority was vaccinating the population by end 2021.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58182418

[neil7908]

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Nope. If anything I’m glad to see businesses still taking things seriously. It might help protect others when idiots who have announced the virus is over come along having not taken care of themselves.

I agree with this. For a chunk of people who can't get the vaccine, or have health problems that make them more susceptible to complications from Covid, this might give them the confidence to be able to go out to a bar, gig etc.

Whilst it does look like the very worst is behind us, we are still seeing over 100 deaths a day as things stand, and we're still in summer. The term "learning to live with covid" is bandied about a lot but to me it means things like this - covid is part of our lives now and we need to adjust our behaviour accordingly. Its not pretending its gone.

[Bristolhibby]

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I agree with this. For a chunk of people who can't get the vaccine, or have health problems that make them more susceptible to complications from Covid, this might give them the confidence to be able to go out to a bar, gig etc.

Whilst it does look like the very worst is behind us, we are still seeing over 100 deaths a day as things stand, and we're still in summer. The term "learning to live with covid" is bandied about a lot but to me it means things like this - covid is part of our lives now and we need to adjust our behaviour accordingly. Its not pretending its gone.

And also accept there will be deaths every day from COVID.

What is the magic acceptable number?

People need to get the vaccine. More support needs to be given to those who can’t, and those who won’t, shouldn’t get certain privileges.

Vaccines will get us out of this.

We need sticks, carrots and education to keep vaccinations going.

Also, a clear booster and winter flu vaccine strategy is also required.

J

[Sir David Gray]

Scotland's hospitals are under more pressure than ever, doctors have told BBC Scotland.

While the number of Covid patients has fallen, the NHS is trying to catch up with surgeries and treatments put on hold during the first wave of the pandemic.

But more people are also being admitted with other complex, more advanced disease, having put off seeking treatment.

It's leading to long waits in emergency departments and piling pressure on capacity in other parts of the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58179736

[AltheHibby]

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Scotland's hospitals are under more pressure than ever, doctors have told BBC Scotland.

While the number of Covid patients has fallen, the NHS is trying to catch up with surgeries and treatments put on hold during the first wave of the pandemic.

But more people are also being admitted with other complex, more advanced disease, having put off seeking treatment.

It's leading to long waits in emergency departments and piling pressure on capacity in other parts of the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58179736

Sadly not unexpected.

[Sir David Gray]

A law firm representing travellers is challenging the UK's quarantine hotel policy and seeking a judicial review.

Currently, passengers must spend 11 nights in quarantine hotels on returning from red list countries, despite being fully vaccinated and testing negative for Covid.

London-based firm PGMBM says this is an "unlawful deprivation of liberty".

On Thursday, the cost of staying in a quarantine hotel jumped from £1,750 to £2,285.

The firm has begun legal proceedings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58180307

[AugustaHibs]

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A law firm representing travellers is challenging the UK's quarantine hotel policy and seeking a judicial review.

Currently, passengers must spend 11 nights in quarantine hotels on returning from red list countries, despite being fully vaccinated and testing negative for Covid.

London-based firm PGMBM says this is an "unlawful deprivation of liberty".

On Thursday, the cost of staying in a quarantine hotel jumped from £1,750 to £2,285.

The firm has begun legal proceedings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58180307

Hotel quarantine is a huge scam. Lot of nonsense

[lord bunberry]

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Oh look!! I usually respect your posts but you have said exactly what I predicted people would say.


Covid is not over, will probably never be over, and there will need to be some form of mitigation for some time to come.

I know covid is not over but social distancing is and so is the requirement to test ourselves before we enter a venue.

[AugustaHibs]

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I know covid is not over but social distancing is and so is the requirement to test ourselves before we enter a venue.

Correct.