Brexit - What Now.

***Ozyhibby*** · 04-07-2021 11:46 AM

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Bring in the army or we’ll starve.

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***Andy Bee*** · 04-07-2021 11:54 AM

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Bring in the army or we’ll starve.

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It is actually happening, I know of fridge motors being emptied as the food inside is going past sell by because of driver shortage. Not complaining as the wages seem to be going up and hopefully the hours get more realistic. I know one driver who received a £7 an hour pay rise. Not before time if you ask me as the haulage industry has been on a race to the bottom for years. I'd assume the construction industry will be next.

***Ozyhibby*** · 04-07-2021 12:08 PM

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It is actually happening, I know of fridge motors being emptied as the food inside is going past sell by because of driver shortage. Not complaining as the wages seem to be going up and hopefully the hours get more realistic. I know one driver who received a £7 an hour pay rise. Not before time if you ask me as the haulage industry has been on a race to the bottom for years. I'd assume the construction industry will be next.

Which is why a lot of people voted for brexit. Not every person who voted for brexit did so against their own interest. I worked in construction from 2004 to 2012 and could see the effect the huge influx of workers was having on wages.

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***Kato*** · 04-07-2021 12:46 PM

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Which is why a lot of people voted for brexit. Not every person who voted for brexit did so against their own interest. I worked in construction from 2004 to 2012 and could see the effect the huge influx of workers was having on wages.

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EU immigration laws never invoked or never even explained at the time. Brutal on workers from Blair, Brown and Cameron.

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**degenerated** · 04-07-2021 02:38 PM

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It is actually happening, I know of fridge motors being emptied as the food inside is going past sell by because of driver shortage. Not complaining as the wages seem to be going up and hopefully the hours get more realistic. I know one driver who received a £7 an hour pay rise. Not before time if you ask me as the haulage industry has been on a race to the bottom for years. I'd assume the construction industry will be next.

Construction is challenging just now. Materials are scarce, lead times are way out and prices are very volatile.
Not seen the hit on labour market as yet, I expected Brexit to negatively impact that first. There is still lack of certain trades like Brickies but that has been the case for years.

Not sure that Brexit is the key driver in material issues. Exceptional demand from housebuilders against a back drop of Covid shutdowns has been a bigger issue I think.

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***wookie70*** · 04-07-2021 04:17 PM

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Bring in the army or we’ll starve.

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I view that as a rare Brexit benefit. The Army will actually be providing a service we need rather than paying for them to kill foreigners in foreign lands or back up the police if the people decide they don't like something teh Government has done.

***Jones28*** · 05-07-2021 09:14 PM

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Nonsense, this is just project fear. And besides, we have hundreds of miles of unused canals in this country, time for a fire and brimstone renaissance of our canal system. No silly EU time directives, everyone should be allowed to drive a narrow boat for as many hours a week as they want.

***Ozyhibby*** · 07-07-2021 11:01 AM

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Uk passport holders told not to apply for jobs working in resorts. This is going to be a real boost for Irish kids wanting to work in the sun during summer.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 07-07-2021 11:06 AM

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**CloudSquall** · 07-07-2021 11:27 AM

I remember working in the Netherlands for the 3rd year of my degree (and subsequently moving there for 4 years upon graduating), I took for granted just how easy it was to move at the time.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 07-07-2021 11:40 AM

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Disgusting

***CapitalGreen*** · 07-07-2021 11:53 AM

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Horrific that these opportunities have been taken away from our children. I spent a summer working in Europe while a student and it was one of the best experiences of my life.

***Ozyhibby*** · 07-07-2021 01:56 PM

Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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***Kato*** · 07-07-2021 01:58 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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Saying that something is being "ramped up" is the perfect solution for everything.

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***Stairway 2 7*** · 07-07-2021 02:02 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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Can't beat shattered truck drivers

**~~Bangkok Hibby~~** · 07-07-2021 02:05 PM

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Saying that something is being "ramped up" is the perfect solution for everything.

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I despise that phrase...made fashionable by Torys, now used by all.

***Kato*** · 07-07-2021 02:17 PM

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I despise that phrase...made fashionable by Torys, now used by all.

Its usage has rampe...increased recently.

You have to make the hand signal, moving your flattened hand up through 15 degrees, to really make it work though.

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***Moulin Yarns*** · 07-07-2021 02:31 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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Is it the off ramp or the on ramp?

***Moulin Yarns*** · 07-07-2021 02:42 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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This won't end well....

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/cou...fore-crash?top

***Just Alf*** · 07-07-2021 03:16 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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I thought the Brexiteer supporting Tories had said there was no way working standards would be reduced with Brexit?

***Kato*** · 07-07-2021 05:10 PM

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I thought the Brexiteer supporting Tories had said there was no way working standards would be reduced with Brexit?

They'll do it gladly and insist the legislation is changed because someone is waving a flag somewhere.

***lapsedhibee*** · 07-07-2021 05:13 PM

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I thought the Brexiteer supporting Tories had said there was no way working standards would be reduced with Brexit?

Correct. Brexit gave us the freedom to crack on and improve our working standards, instead of being held back by Europeans.

***Jones28*** · 07-07-2021 06:11 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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Yay! Overworked drivers with 40 ton loads! Brexit, Brexit, Brexit!

***Jack*** · 07-07-2021 06:15 PM

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Problem solved. Stupid rules anyway.

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They'll be happy British drivers though.

Will EU drivers, working for EU companies, still be bound by EU rules?

***Ozyhibby*** · 07-07-2021 06:19 PM

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They'll be happy British drivers though.

Will EU drivers, working for EU companies, still be bound by EU rules?

I don’t think there are any, that’s what is causing the shortage.

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***Hibrandenburg*** · 07-07-2021 06:41 PM

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They'll be happy British drivers though.

Will EU drivers, working for EU companies, still be bound by EU rules?

Not sure about them being happy. In the UK drivers are leaving the job in their droves, extending their working hours is only going to make more leave. Genius move by the government.

**Killiehibbie** · 07-07-2021 06:45 PM

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Not sure about them being happy. In the UK drivers are leaving the job in their droves, extending their working hours is only going to make more leave. Genius move by the government.

They'll be as happy as the fish, farmers and everybody else.