Brexit - What Now.

[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.theguardian.com/educatio...mpression=true

I used to host foreign language students and they bring a lot of money into the Edinburgh economy. This is business that will only return with independence. It will be a real boost for Dublin.


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[degenerated]

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Massive shortages in building materials feeding through at the moment. Driven by global demand and HS2 mostly.

There quite a few dynamics at play with this one. The steel market is being affected by the Chinese lowering production and forcing prices up. There is a shortage of polymers which is effecting the manufacture of plastics. There is a worldwide shortage of shipping containers just now which is having a detrimental effect on material availability. Covid is having an impact on material coming from countries where lockdowns have been in force and to complete the perfect storm Brexit has added quite a bit of time on to lead times of materials as they need to clear customs now.

Most of the shortages in the UK can be attributed to the huge upturn in house building, this was not foreseen by a supply base which had furloughed so many people and didn't expect this upturn.

It is a bit of a challenge just now, in 25 years in procurement in this industry I have never seen the sort of price increases that have been implemented (and stuck) since the turn of the year, and I have never seen a time where certain materials like cement are in such short supply.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/sta...516660741?s=21

I’m surprised at this latest row over EU refusal to allow UK sausages into their single market because Michael Gove said that they had sorted it?


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[Glory Lurker]

'Mon the EU.

[Bostonhibby]

Get Sausage Done

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...725084672?s=21

US apparently encouraging UK to align food standards with EU. This would be a great help for the Yes movement as it would make the new border with England a lot less of an issue.


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[Jack]

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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...725084672?s=21

US apparently encouraging UK to align food standards with EU. This would be a great help for the Yes movement as it would make the new border with England a lot less of an issue.


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Although the UK are acting like dicks on issues around NI/Brexit they'll have to give in, not least because they signed the blumming deal!

Once that's sorted Scotland will have a copy and paste oven ready deal.

[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true
Brexit destroying UK reputation.


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[Jones28]

The new trade deal with Australia has simultaneously ****ed over British farmers AND resulted in less tax revenue for the UK treasury. Yay.

[Kato]

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The new trade deal with Australia has simultaneously ****ed over British farmers AND resulted in less tax revenue for the UK treasury. Yay.

Take back control.

[Bostonhibby]

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The new trade deal with Australia has simultaneously ****ed over British farmers AND resulted in less tax revenue for the UK treasury. Yay.

They've been Trussed, well and truly.

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[Hibrandenburg]

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The new trade deal with Australia has simultaneously ****ed over British farmers AND resulted in less tax revenue for the UK treasury. Yay.

I can remember back to the time before the EU and the UK being flooded with cheap Australian and New Zealand meat imports destroying UK production. Looks like we've gone full circle.

[cabbageandribs1875]

wow...just wow

[lapsedhibee]

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wow...just wow

Which of Dorries or Jenkyns has triumphantly tweeted that?

[wookie70]

This is a per person estimate, not sure how I will spend my 1p yet

Will it mean more change in British pockets?

Yes. About 1p a week. The government has said it will save British consumers £34m a year, equating to 52p a person

[Ozyhibby]

It looks like Ozy farmers will be able export 60 times what they currently do before any tariffs or quotas come in. And that’s in year one.
Beef and Lamb will get cheaper but the farmers will be goosed. And the food miles will be huge.


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[Jack]

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This is a per person estimate, not sure how I will spend my 1p yet

Will it mean more change in British pockets?

Yes. About 1p a week. The government has said it will save British consumers £34m a year, equating to 52p a person

It will probably cost the UK agriculture industry many times that amount.

[Colr]

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The new trade deal with Australia has simultaneously ****ed over British farmers AND resulted in less tax revenue for the UK treasury. Yay.

Good for global warming as well moving meat half way around the world. Carrie Antionette won’t be pleased.

[Just Alf]

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Good for global warming as well moving meat half way around the world. Carrie Antionette won’t be pleased.

When our farmers go out of business we'll save the emissions from hearding livestock on their quad bikes though...

Ah wait, the Aussies use planes and helicopters.... ah well.... :-/



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[Ozyhibby]

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When our farmers go out of business we'll save the emissions from hearding livestock on their quad bikes though...

Ah wait, the Aussies use planes and helicopters.... ah well.... :-/



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It’s not the only thing Australia does differently. It’s no wonder they can produce their meat a lot cheaper. I guess it’s ok to be cruel if it’s outsourced to another country?


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[Moulin Yarns]

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It’s not the only thing Australia does differently. It’s no wonder they can produce their meat a lot cheaper. I guess it’s ok to be cruel if it’s outsourced to another country?


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People might not know what Mulesing is so here is a little explanation. Warning it's not pleasant.









Mulesing is the practice of scalping the rear end of a sheep, not just cutting the wool, to prevent blowflies laying their eggs on the skin of a sheep, the grubs which burrow under the skin. There are pesticides that will kill the grubs, but then it wastes some of the fleece to remove them rather than do it by hand.

Think twice if buying merino wool garments if you don't know the source of the wool. I buy my merino wool from dealers who source it from south America and the Falkland islands.

[Bostonhibby]

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People might not know what Mulesing is so here is a little explanation. Warning it's not pleasant.









Mulesing is the practice of scalping the rear end of a sheep, not just cutting the wool, to prevent blowflies laying their eggs on the skin of a sheep, the grubs which burrow under the skin. There are pesticides that will kill the grubs, but then it wastes some of the fleece to remove them rather than do it by hand.

Think twice if buying merino wool garments if you don't know the source of the wool. I buy my merino wool from dealers who source it from south America and the Falkland islands.

An informative and sadly not surprising indication of the level of what the Nasty party think is acceptable in the brave new world.

I don't think it'll be too difficult to boycott these products and anything else associated with this dirty deal.

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[Hibrandenburg]

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It’s not the only thing Australia does differently. It’s no wonder they can produce their meat a lot cheaper. I guess it’s ok to be cruel if it’s outsourced to another country?


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I guarantee at some point in the future the Tories will be campaigning against cheap imports from Australia in an election.

[Bostonhibby]

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I guarantee at some point in the future the Tories will be campaigning against cheap imports from Australia in an election.

They'd campaign against Tories if they thought it would keep their snouts at the trough a bit longer so this is entirely feasible.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

keep em coming

apparently the co-op still advertising though ? i'm still disgusted Kirsty Gallacher saw fit to join this tory programme, disgusted i say

[CloudSquall]

All of a sudden the Common Agricultural Policy doesn't seem so bad.

[Kato]

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All of a sudden the Common Agricultural Policy doesn't seem so bad.

The answer here goes something like "You lost. Get over it", I think. Brexit will turn out to be a lose, lose and keep on losing situation.

[Curried]

I’m surprised it hasn’t been raised yet in the media, given past coverage on chlorinated chicken from the US, but all meat chickens sold in Australian are also chlorinated…..Enjoy.

https://www.chicken.org.au/facts-and-figures/

From the FAQ at the bottom of the page:

"Is chlorine used in chicken meat production?

Yes, where immersion chilling (“spin chilling”) is used to rapidly reduce the temperature of freshly dressed chicken carcasses, the water used must be chlorinated or contain a chemical sanitiser approved for food contact. The majority of meat chickens in Australia are currently processed in plants which use a chlorinated water chiller. Chlorination of the water during immersion chilling assists in killing bacteria in the water and maintaining sanitary processing conditions, similar to the treatment of drinking water or swimming pool water.”

[Mr Grieves]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57518910

UK food and drink exports to the EU almost halve.

The government said it was "too early to draw any firm conclusions" on the long term impact of Brexit.

[Crunchie]

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I’m surprised it hasn’t been raised yet in the media, given past coverage on chlorinated chicken from the US, but all meat chickens sold in Australian are also chlorinated…..Enjoy.

https://www.chicken.org.au/facts-and-figures/

From the FAQ at the bottom of the page:

"Is chlorine used in chicken meat production?

Yes, where immersion chilling (“spin chilling”) is used to rapidly reduce the temperature of freshly dressed chicken carcasses, the water used must be chlorinated or contain a chemical sanitiser approved for food contact. The majority of meat chickens in Australia are currently processed in plants which use a chlorinated water chiller. Chlorination of the water during immersion chilling assists in killing bacteria in the water and maintaining sanitary processing conditions, similar to the treatment of drinking water or swimming pool water.”

Australia is not some back water country, I'm sure their standards of food are every bit as high as ours.