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    @hibs.net private member overdrive's Avatar
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    I can see the argument from both sides. One thing on the toilet/changing room issue. Presumably part of the issue is the suspicion that a male to female transgender person might be using their transgender status (either genuine or for the purposes I’m about to say) to somehow perv on women in a state of undress or pounce on them in a vulnerable situation which they wouldn’t have the opportunity to do if they used male facilities.

    How is that different to a predatory gay man doing the same thing in male facilities or a predatory lesbian doing so in female changing facilities. Or indeed a male to female transgender person with a sexual preference for males doing so in male facilities?

    In the toilet situation, is it actually much different to everyone using unisex toilets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    I can see the argument from both sides. One thing on the toilet/changing room issue. Presumably part of the issue is the suspicion that a male to female transgender person might be using their transgender status (either genuine or for the purposes I’m about to say) to somehow perv on women in a state of undress or pounce on them in a vulnerable situation which they wouldn’t have the opportunity to do if they used male facilities.

    How is that different to a predatory gay man doing the same thing in male facilities or a predatory lesbian doing so in female changing facilities. Or indeed a male to female transgender person with a sexual preference for males doing so in male facilities?

    In the toilet situation, is it actually much different to everyone using unisex toilets?
    I imagine the same people worried about trans people using the same changing rooms would have also complaining if gay people using the same changing rooms 20/30 years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Cruz View Post
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    I'm back in for a response to that! You have some imagination. No need for the not so subtle unfounded homophobic slurs.
    Shirley slurs against homophobes are not homophobic slurs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Cruz View Post
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    I'm back in for a response to that! You have some imagination. No need for the not so subtle unfounded homophobic slurs.
    The point is not about specific people. It's about the attitudes and perceived fears of a part of mainstream society. The themes are very similar to the debates on the 70s and 80s about sexuality issues.

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