Matt Macey

[Pretty Boy]

I said before th Stranraer game that I was wary about playing Macey in the cup games. Precicesly for this reason. It now leaves us with a decision to make before the semi final and it also gives rise to a situation like this where hypothetical 'if Marciano was playing' scenarios get put forward. I know other clubs do it but I think it's best left for the group stages of the LC. In the latter stages of either cup, you play your strongest team. We aren't Man Utd, we don't have a world class keeper warming te bench.

On the subject of today. I always assess goals and say would I be happy to take the blame if I conceded that? The 1st one? Definitely. I think he anticipated a touch that never came and then was unable to react. He'll be disappointed. The 2nd? I'm not so sure. The cross was a tricky one to come for, it's one if he comes and takes it you say great, if he gets caught underneath it then he's in trouble. It's a good header from close range. He's maybe a step too far over but he's always going to defend that near post. A keeper maybe saves that 5 times out of 10 and it's hailed a great save when he does.

More generally today was the 1st time I've been really unconvinced by him. He looked quite nervy throughout and hesitated on a couple of occasions.

[Lancs Harp]

Its the business end of the season, Jack must play who he considers to be the best keeper. No room for sentiment or that Macey or whoever has played in previous rounds. We now pa our strongest team. personally I think thats Rocky in goal but will leave it to Jacks judgement, he's the man.

[Northernhibee]

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Not for me.

He wouldn't have got to the 1st even had he dived and the second was 100% down to the defenders.

Yep, it’s painfully obvious. Macey not at fault for either.

[hibbysam]

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I said before th Stranraer game that I was wary about playing Macey in the cup games. Precicesly for this reason. It now leaves us with a decision to make before the semi final and it also gives rise to a situation like this where hypothetical 'if Marciano was playing' scenarios get put forward. I know other clubs do it but I think it's best left for the group stages of the LC. In the latter stages of either cup, you play your strongest team. We aren't Man Utd, we don't have a world class keeper warming te bench.

On the subject of today. I always assess goals and say would I be happy to take the blame if I conceded that? The 1st one? Definitely. I think he anticipated a touch that never came and then was unable to react. He'll be disappointed. The 2nd? I'm not so sure. The cross was a tricky one to come for, it's one if he comes and takes it you say great, if he gets caught underneath it then he's in trouble. It's a good header from close range. He's maybe a step too far over but he's always going to defend that near post. A keeper maybe saves that 5 times out of 10 and it's hailed a great save when he does.

More generally today was the 1st time I've been really unconvinced by him. He looked quite nervy throughout and hesitated on a couple of occasions.

I’m the opposite with the two goals. The first one IMO he can’t react as he needs to wait for a touch, horrendous for a keeper. The second he was right not to come, it landed around 10 yards from goal, with 3 players in between, issue being is he ended up at least a yard too far over, pretty tame header but couldn’t react.

[nlandsafchibee]

Any comparison with Rocky is not really relevant. They have different strengths and are at different stages of their career. It appears as the loan period goes on that enough of him has been seen to look at a contract being discussed. He made a vital save from Cole in first half which should not be forgotten. I also think because of his size and wide reach with his arms and hands he is an imposing figure between the posts at penalties putting that little bit extra pressure on opponents.

[Billy Whizz]

If Ross is intending signing Macey as 1st choice next season, he’ll have to play him in the semi final

[truehibernian]

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I’m the opposite with the two goals. The first one IMO he can’t react as he needs to wait for a touch, horrendous for a keeper. The second he was right not to come, it landed around 10 yards from goal, with 3 players in between, issue being is he ended up at least a yard too far over, pretty tame header but couldn’t react.

Second came from a cracking pin-point cross from O'Donnell and I would have expected far better marking on Watt - free header in the 6 yard box - I don't blame Macey at all for the goals tonight. Defending was poor for both.

[Borderhibbie76]

Macey was not at fault for either goal and to say otherwise is a bit ridiculous really. He's pulled off another vital save and was solid enough as far as I'm concerned

[hibbysam]

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Second came from a cracking pin-point cross from O'Donnell and I would have expected far better marking on Watt - free header in the 6 yard box - I don't blame Macey at all for the goals tonight. Defending was poor for both.

It was well outside the 6 yard box, but it was just a big up and under, wasn’t a great cross, and was a tame header yards inside the post, Macey just got his positioning wrong.

[Magpie]

I like him. A big club like Arsenal wouldn’t have him on the books if he was poor, hopefully he will be part of history by the end of May.

[Jdawg]

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I like him. A big club like Arsenal wouldn’t have him on the books if he was poor, hopefully he will be part of history by the end of May.

Makalamby was at Chelsea. The Portuguese keeper hearts had last year is at Man Utd. It means nothing. Not seen enough of Macey to make any determination thus far.

[Magpie]

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Makalamby was at Chelsea. The Portuguese keeper hearts had last year is at Man Utd. It means nothing. Not seen enough of Macey to make any determination thus far.

That’s fair enough, I think he has a bit about him but once he plays regular football I think we can make a better judgement. For Ross to trust him in the Scottish Cup ahead of Rocky shows that he will probably be our future keeper.

[gbhibby]

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I like him. A big club like Arsenal wouldn’t have him on the books if he was poor, hopefully he will be part of history by the end of May.

Hopefully ends up with a a winners medal to follow up on his winners medal last year

[Brightside]

If you blame Macey for those goal just give up on the football.

[Callum_62]

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If you blame Macey for those goal just give up on the football.

Still think he should have came and punched away the 2nd

The first he looks horrendous but would need to see it again

Both were quite twne efforts at goal that didn't exactly shave the post in the way in

He looked dodgy at a header that was very similar to the first goal we lost too - his positioning looked suspect to me

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[O'Rourke3]

Goals against are not always someones fault but when he looks back and sees how far off centre he was with both goals he will be disappointed. The second he made the right decision that he would not get there but left too much of a target for Watt, who again caused us loads of problems.

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[Winston Ingram]

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Yep, it’s painfully obvious. Macey not at fault for either.

This.

[Big_Franck]

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If you blame Macey for those goal just give up on the football.

If you don't blame him, watch his positioning when the Motherwell player makes contact with their strikes for both goals. For both goals he's clearly far too close to the back post leaving him too much distance to cover to get back and make a routine save.

If Rocky had started we'd have won that game in 90 minutes without a doubt and we'd have Gogic for the semi.

If nothing else that late scare showed we shouldn't be giving backup players 'a chance' in the Scottish Cup.

[RyeSloan]

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If you don't blame him, watch his positioning when the Motherwell player makes contact with their strikes for both goals. For both goals he's clearly far too close to the back post leaving him too much distance to cover to get back and make a routine save.

If Rocky had started we'd have won that game in 90 minutes without a doubt and we'd have Gogic for the semi.

If nothing else that late scare showed we shouldn't be giving backup players 'a chance' in the Scottish Cup.

Not buying any of that.

The first is a total shank that somehow loops into the far corner...no keeper would be covering that eventuality.

The second was a huge looping cross that the defence had to deal with...he has to cover the post and area closest to the attacker as otherwise Watt just heads it straight in the near post. It was a great header, well placed under zero pressure.

Just not getting how anyone can blame the keeper for either of them or somehow be certain Rocky would have done anything different.

[hibbysam]

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Not buying any of that.

The first is a total shank that somehow loops into the far corner...no keeper would be covering that eventuality.

The second was a huge looping cross that the defence had to deal with...he has to cover the post and area closest to the attacker as otherwise Watt just heads it straight in the near post. It was a great header, well placed under zero pressure.

Just not getting how anyone can blame the keeper for either of them or somehow be certain Rocky would have done anything different.

‘Well placed’ 2/3 yards inside the post, going back across the goal which means it should be even easier to get close to. His positioning was way off.

[Pretty Boy]

I think there is a huge grey area between 'howler' and 'never the keepers fault'.

Neither goal conceded was close to a howler. I think both will see Macey and Samson watching the footage closely together and analysing what he could have done better though.

I'd say the same about one of the goals we conceded at Ibrox the other week. It wasn't a howler by Marciano but he'll have analysed what he could have done better with the initial shot and whether he could have done more to get the ball out of the danger area.

Of course on all occasions they could conclude the goalkeeper did everything right. Most keepers are their own biggest critics though, albeit the best can compartmentalise their mistakes, and I have a nagging suspicion that Macey will be a wee bit disappointed tonight.

[truehibernian]

Macey getting stick has me shaking my head in bafflement no way could he be faulted for either goal - utterly bizarre anyone would think that. The defending was criminal given the amount of players we had back yet left both scorers unmarked and wrong side.

[ekhibee]

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If you don't blame him, watch his positioning when the Motherwell player makes contact with their strikes for both goals. For both goals he's clearly far too close to the back post leaving him too much distance to cover to get back and make a routine save.

If Rocky had started we'd have won that game in 90 minutes without a doubt and we'd have Gogic for the semi.

If nothing else that late scare showed we shouldn't be giving backup players 'a chance' in the Scottish Cup.

I disagree with virtually everything you just said..

[bingo70]

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If you blame Macey for those goal just give up on the football.

You’re in no position to make calls like that.

[hibsbollah]

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If you don't blame him, watch his positioning when the Motherwell player makes contact with their strikes for both goals. For both goals he's clearly far too close to the back post leaving him too much distance to cover to get back and make a routine save.

If Rocky had started we'd have won that game in 90 minutes without a doubt and we'd have Gogic for the semi.

If nothing else that late scare showed we shouldn't be giving backup players 'a chance' in the Scottish Cup.

This does my head in. It’s the usual using hindsight to blame keepers whatever they do. He’s only ‘clearly’ too close to the back post in your post because of where the ball ended up. If the ball has a different trajectory from the strikers body it’s suddenly great positioning

[hibsbollah]

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I disagree with virtually everything you just said..

Me too.

[RyeSloan]

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‘Well placed’ 2/3 yards inside the post, going back across the goal which means it should be even easier to get close to. His positioning was way off.

Easier to get close to? There is reason players are told to head it back across goal...that it’s difficult for the keeper to get to because he has to cover the near post and centre of the goal or he’s gifting it!

The fault for the second is all down to allowing the cross and the awful cover. As I said it was a great header that was perfect slotted into the space that is inevitably left by the keeper needing to cover the side of the goal closest to the attacker.

Could he have done better? Well maybe at a push but I don’t think many, if any, keepers are saving that.

[hibbysam]

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Easier to get close to? There is reason players are told to head it back across goal...that it’s difficult for the keeper to get to because he has to cover the near post and centre of the goal or he’s gifting it!

The fault for the second is all down to allowing the cross and the awful cover. As I said it was a great header that was perfect slotted into the space that is inevitably left by the keeper needing to cover the side of the goal closest to the attacker.

Could he have done better? Well maybe at a push but I don’t think many, if any, keepers are saving that.

It was a cross with zero pace, a header with zero pace. It wasn’t a tight angle (at which point I’d expect the keeper to cover his near post), his angles were all completely wrong. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t fault elsewhere, but 8 times out of 10 a keeper would save that second goal. He’s in the wrong position and flat footed, meaning he can’t even make a meaningful effort to save it.

[truehibernian]

Thank **** we are debating the pros and cons of a really decent keeper after a win and not back to the days of Zibi, Brown, Maka, Smith and Stack after a horrific defeat when the keepers were genuinely at fault

[bingo70]

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Thank **** we are debating the pros and cons of a really decent keeper after a win and not back to the days of Zibi, Brown, Maka, Smith and Brown after a horrific defeat when the keepers were genuinely at fault

To me, you’re just highlighting most fans inability to differentiate between an obvious howler and a professional keeper that gets their positioning/footwork wrong.

A good keeper wouldn’t have lost the goals he did today, even if they weren’t obvious howlers.