Scott Allan goes on loan

[tamig]

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The part where he makes no mention of him coming back.


It's not pessimism. I think it's the right thing to do for both parties.

Loans usually lead to a player returning to the club they’re contracted to. This is a move to help us having the best chance of a ready to go Scott Allan next season.

[Hibbyradge]

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It’s all ifs and buts, however we could, although not mathematically, have 3rd more or less tied up after the next round of fixtures. Tbf to you, you’ve consistently been cautious regarding that.

I agree, he’s not that type of player, he is though if you are looking to get an equaliser. And the cup is exactly why I would have kept him for this season.

If I was going to put a player out on loan it would have been Magennis who has is in dire need of game time. If we needed a bit of magic to come off the bench I know who I’d be bringing on. Even a half fit Scott Allan can pick a pass few if any in our team can.

You make a decent point, but if Scott has asked for a move, then it would have been unfair to refuse, particularly if he couldn't be guaranteed to get on the pitch.

Hopefully, he gets what he needs from the rest of the season, puts in a good shift when he's back for preseason training, and we get the very best of him next year.

To be honest, I don't think we've ever seen a fully fit Scott Allen because more often than not, he only lasted an hour or so. If the new diagnosis and treatment works, we might have an even better player on our hand come August.

[Greenbeard]

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Not if he’s cup tied on Friday v Ross County
Also Premiership play offs run until after the Cup final, if Inverness were to get that far

Presume if we get more injuries (eg Irvine, Newell on top of Murphy), we can recall him for league matches? And Cup if he doesn't take the field for ICT in a cup tie.

[Billy Whizz]

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Presume if we get more injuries (eg Irvine, Newell on top of Murphy), we can recall him for league matches? And Cup if he doesn't take the field for ICT in a cup tie.

Caley said they’ve signed until the end of the season, so the answer is no

[danhibees1875]

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Caley said they’ve signed until the end of the season, so the answer is no

I don't think that would necessarily preclude a return. He's signed on loan until the end of the season, but whether he can be recalled is a separate issue.

I think loans generally would have recall options - would seem silly not to in case you got a couple of injuries and were stuck.

I'm all for giving him as much game time as possible and if the club thinks this is the right move then I'm on board. I'm already fed up of the "we shouldn't have let Scott Allan go out on loan" comments after each game we draw/lose for the rest of this season and they've not even started yet.

[JimBHibees]

Is he involved for Inverness today?

[Billy Whizz]

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I don't think that would necessarily preclude a return. He's signed on loan until the end of the season, but whether he can be recalled is a separate issue.

I think loans generally would have recall options - would seem silly not to in case you got a couple of injuries and were stuck.

I'm all for giving him as much game time as possible and if the club thinks this is the right move then I'm on board. I'm already fed up of the "we shouldn't have let Scott Allan go out on loan" comments after each game we draw/lose for the rest of this season and they've not even started yet.

The window shuts on Wednesday, so he’d need to be back by then
If he’s signed for them in the summer, we could have recalled him in January

[Andy74]

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Is he involved for Inverness today?

On the bench.

[thebausburst]

On the back of moving Mallan out this makes no sense to me given we struggle for creativity and goals in midfield. How about loaning out McGennis!

[JimBHibees]

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On the bench.

[Andy74]

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On the back of moving Mallan out this makes no sense to me given we struggle for creativity and goals in midfield. How about loaning out McGennis!

How are we clear in 3rd without having really played any of these 2 then?

[thebausburst]

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How are we clear in 3rd without having really played any of these 2 then?

Cause our rival for 3rd is a team who’ve scored 1 goal in their last 10 games and just sacked their manager due to their awful performances, next question.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Scot Gardiner is a prick, plain and simple. McCann has previous for absolutely ruining players (Scott Bain anyone). Pair of dinosaurs up there.

Inverness have 6 games left. It’s definitely not going to benefit us. If Allan’s treatment wasn’t working then he wouldn’t have been training and in match day squads for us. The testing he had to go through to get back there’s absolutely no chance we’d have been taking that chance if we weren’t sure.

No idea who Gardiner is, McCann has ruined Bain that much, he plays for Celtic?

Hopefully Scott gets 6 games for them, it is 6 more than he's going to get for us. I bow to your medical knowledge on heart conditions, i know diddly squat about Scott's condition.

[Andy74]

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Cause our rival for 3rd is a team who’ve scored 1 goal in their last 10 games and just sacked their manager due to their awful performances, next question.

That’s a stupid answer so I’ll pass on further questions.

[jeffers]

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You make a decent point, but if Scott has asked for a move, then it would have been unfair to refuse, particularly if he couldn't be guaranteed to get on the pitch.

Hopefully, he gets what he needs from the rest of the season, puts in a good shift when he's back for preseason training, and we get the very best of him next year.

To be honest, I don't think we've ever seen a fully fit Scott Allen because more often than not, he only lasted an hour or so. If the new diagnosis and treatment works, we might have an even better player on our hand come August.

Your first sentence is the crux of it for me, he’s either been told or has realised he’s not going to get game time and he clearly wants to play. He’s been consistent in that from his time at Celtic. The fact he is being allowed to go is clear to me that Ross has no intention of playing him.

I really hope you are right, I would build my team around a fit Scott Allan, I don’t believe JR will. Although posters have pointed to him previously getting regular game time, that was before we had Magennis, Murphy, Irvine, with Newell clearly a favourite. Then add in Gogic, where does Scott Allan fit in ?

I wondered when he did his recent interviews about his condition how long he’s actually been suffering from it, I don’t recall that being mentioned. So you are probably correct we may well have never seen a fully fit Scott Allan and put his tiring later in games down purely to his diabetes.

[Billy Whizz]

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No idea who Gardiner is, McCann has ruined Bain that much, he plays for Celtic?

Hopefully Scott gets 6 games for them, it is 6 more than he's going to get for us. I bow to your medical knowledge on heart conditions, i know diddly squat about Scott's condition.

If they get onto the play offs, and they get a cup run, could almost play up to 10 games

Gardiner is the ex Hearts CEO, who allegedly forgot to order the seats for their mega stand. He always was Budge’s sidekick during the lockdown League negotiations last season

[Hibbyradge]

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Cause our rival for 3rd is a team who’ve scored 1 goal in their last 10 games and just sacked their manager due to their awful performances, next question.

How many would they have scored if Scott Allan was getting a game for us?

[Hibbyradge]

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Your first sentence is the crux of it for me, he’s either been told or has realised he’s not going to get game time and he clearly wants to play. He’s been consistent in that from his time at Celtic. The fact he is being allowed to go is clear to me that Ross has no intention of playing him.

I really hope you are right, I would build my team around a fit Scott Allan, I don’t believe JR will. Although posters have pointed to him previously getting regular game time, that was before we had Magennis, Murphy, Irvine, with Newell clearly a favourite. Then add in Gogic, where does Scott Allan fit in ?

I wondered when he did his recent interviews about his condition how long he’s actually been suffering from it, I don’t recall that being mentioned. So you are probably correct we may well have never seen a fully fit Scott Allan and put his tiring later in games down purely to his diabetes.

I agree. Jack Ross had no intention of playing Scott Allan when he wasn't fully fit, apart from an occasional run from the bench if games allowed for it. I agree with that.

We are spoiled for riches in the middle, so someone will have to miss out. Whether or not that's Scott or not, we'll have to wait and see.

I like when Gothic starts and I've a lot of time for Irvine Jackson, although he may not stay, but I agree, there's going to be a bun fight for the other midfield places.

That's a good thing though.

[Wheat Hound]

Scotty on now. Hope he does well

[MWHIBBIES]

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Cause our rival for 3rd is a team who’ve scored 1 goal in their last 10 games and just sacked their manager due to their awful performances, next question.

So, we're better than our rivals for 3rd, thats what you are saying?

[blackpoolhibs]

Scott is playing now.

[scoopyboy]

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Cause our rival for 3rd is a team who’ve scored 1 goal in their last 10 games and just sacked their manager due to their awful performances, next question.

Wrong, we are third because we have got more points than all but two teams.

Check our points tally with other seasons and you will see our total is pretty much the norm for a third placed team come the split.

It's not Hibs problem if other teams don't score enough goals or concede too many.

[blackpoolhibs]

Watching ICT and Scott Allan is on, he does look a bit heavy in my opinion.

[danhibees1875]

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The window shuts on Wednesday, so he’d need to be back by then
If he’s signed for them in the summer, we could have recalled him in January

Right enough!

[hibbysam]

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No idea who Gardiner is, McCann has ruined Bain that much, he plays for Celtic?

Hopefully Scott gets 6 games for them, it is 6 more than he's going to get for us. I bow to your medical knowledge on heart conditions, i know diddly squat about Scott's condition.

Bain was fortunate Hibs took a chance and gave him a route out, which then ended up with the swap deal with Allan/Murray. McCann had him frozen out at Dundee and had Allan sitting on the bench as well.

I don’t have superior knowledge other than the fact Hibs wouldn’t have him anywhere near training and games if his condition wasn’t under control, to suggest otherwise would be fairy offensive to our medical team and the experts that Scott has been seeing id imagine. He isn’t away to Inverness to prove a point to Hibs that his medication is working, he’s away as he wants games, which I don’t begrudge, I do begrudge where he is away to.

[Keith_M]

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Watching ICT and Scott Allan is on, he does look a bit heavy in my opinion.

Yeah, he has bulked up quite a bit.

[CMurdoch]

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Watching ICT and Scott Allan is on, he does look a bit heavy in my opinion.

He really needs to play competitive matches and although he was no great shakes today he has already had almost 40 minutes he wouldn't have got at Hibs.
There is no benefit in him being at Easter Road to sit on the bench next to SDG and the sub goalie with no chance of a game.
I think Scott is desperate to test his body in matches after so long out and now he can do it out of the limelight at Inverness.
IMO a good pragmatic decision from all parties to do this.

[BlackSheep]

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How many would they have scored if Scott Allan was getting a game for us?

Perfect response to such a nonsense post, made me lol.

[allmodcons]

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He really needs to play competitive matches and although he was no great shakes today he has already had almost 40 minutes he wouldn't have got at Hibs.
There is no benefit in him being at Easter Road to sit on the bench next to SDG and the sub goalie with no chance of a game.
I think Scott is desperate to test his body in matches after so long out and now he can do it out of the limelight at Inverness.
IMO a good pragmatic decision from all parties to do this.

Agree with this. He needs game time and will not get it at Hibs.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Bain was fortunate Hibs took a chance and gave him a route out, which then ended up with the swap deal with Allan/Murray. McCann had him frozen out at Dundee and had Allan sitting on the bench as well.

So he's still not ruined him has he, in fact he's aided his progress to a better club and won trophies in doing so. Surely you are not now suggesting he ruined Allan too?

I don’t have superior knowledge other than the fact Hibs wouldn’t have him anywhere near training and games if his condition wasn’t under control, to suggest otherwise would be fairy offensive to our medical team and the experts that Scott has been seeing id imagine. He isn’t away to Inverness to prove a point to Hibs that his medication is working, he’s away as he wants games, which I don’t begrudge, I do begrudge where he is away to.

Scott wanted games, i dont suppose he could pick and choose where he went, he could only go to a club who wanted him.