Watched Ryan playing for Farense tonight against Benfica. Match finished 0-0 but Ryan played well for an hour, faded out of the game as Farense got pushed further and further back as the game wore on. Farense sit just above the relegation zone and Ryan has scored 6 goals in 20 games in what is a fairly struggling side. Last season Farense gained promotion and Ryan was voted player of the season for the Portuguese second tier. Much more suited to the pace of the game in Portugal than Scotland.
A word on Benfica as someone who follows them, thats one win in 7 games and in all honesty the poorest Benfica side I have ever seen. rebuilding in progress but a long way to go.
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21-02-2021 09:17 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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21-02-2021 09:19 PM #2First Team Regular
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Yep. Things looked so rosy for SLB pre covid. Nightmare since. Threw away the title last season and will finish below sporting this.
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22-02-2021 07:30 AM #3Testimonial Due
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What is the general level like below the top sides? It looks like Gauld is doing brilliantly and there seems to be a quietly growing suggestion he could make the Euros squad. But I sometimes wonder whether we are so starved of Scottish success stories outside of the UK that we equate any decent form as of higher merit than someone doing it in the Scottish or English leagues. What do you think? Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
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22-02-2021 08:44 AM #4First Team Regular
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Under normal circumstances, Benfica and Porto are better than Scottish standard, with Sporting around Old Firm standard and Braga better than anything else we have. Below that, the league is pretty poor, and I would just about fancy Hibs over two legs against anyone outside that group. Originally Posted by patlowe
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There are some pretty shocking teams in the league and as such, I think Ross County, Hamilton and Kilmarnock wouldn't be any worse off in the table over there than they currently are in our league
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22-02-2021 10:34 AM #5I pretty much agree with that. My one caveat is that many of the lesser known teams have some amazingly athletic players, though the tempo usually drops later in the game. For some reason they do look much more athletic than our home grown players. I saw Ryan with Farense in 2nd tier at this time last season, he was excellent. Hope both Farense & Portimonense stay up, if only for the 1euro beer inside the ground! Originally Posted by Juniper Greens
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22-02-2021 10:41 AM #6
I meant to say, an incredibly competitive league at the bottom. 5 points covering the bottom 10 clubs & the club in last place has a game in hand over the other 9. Sporting should win the league now which is an amazing turnaround given how many players they've sold in recent years & effectively had a civil war inside the club. Vamos os verdes!!
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22-02-2021 10:54 AM #7Testimonial Due
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Interesting stuff. I guess then it's hard to make a clear assessment on Gauld - the league is probably a bit better than the Scottish league but perhaps not to the extent he should automatically get in the squad over the other midfielders we currently have. The other factor is whether his style is just more suited to Portugal but I think the Scottish team has a really bright future if we can somehow bring together the technical guys like Gauld (or Christie, Gilmour, Turnbull etc) with the athleticism of McTominay, Tierney, Robertson et al. Doesn't solve the perennial centre half/centre forward issue but exciting nonetheless.
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22-02-2021 11:16 AM #8Left by mutual consent!
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I thought Gauld looked decent for us until he got injured.
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22-02-2021 11:33 AM #9Coaching Staff
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If Lennon never had a meltdown Gauld would have done well for us.
To think some of the players we had that season who, on paper, looked terrific signings.
Even McClaren after having a great 6 months was resigned but hardly kicked a ball for us.
What an odd 6 months that was.
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22-02-2021 12:12 PM #10First Team Regular
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I watch a lot of Portuguese football and have been to countless games over the last few years. I personally wouldn't have him in the squad at this time. Originally Posted by patlowe
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If he gets a move to a top half club and continues to stand out, then I think there is a case
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I really wanted him to do well for us and think he would have had it not been for the injury. Was excited when we signed him but just didn’t work out unfortunately
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22-02-2021 01:05 PM #12Left by mutual consent!
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Hyndman as well. On paper should have been good, ended up absolutely murder. Originally Posted by Unseen work
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We maybe expected more, but "absolute murder" is a bit strong. Originally Posted by calumhibee1
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22-02-2021 01:13 PM #14Left by mutual consent!
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Put in the Glen Middleton category. Originally Posted by Peevemor
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Likewise. On his debut - on an otherwise utterly miserable evening in Motherwell, just as Lennon was starting to lose it - I thought he was excellent: at times on a different level to some of the other players. Such a shame that he got injured. Originally Posted by 660
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22-02-2021 01:25 PM #16Coaching Staff
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He may not have been the future of a Hibs team that could improve but calling him absolute murder is just daft. Originally Posted by calumhibee1
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As opposed to the Glen Michael category, which is for David Tanner... Originally Posted by The 90+2
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22-02-2021 01:26 PM #18Left by mutual consent!
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Boom boom. Originally Posted by Peevemor
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22-02-2021 01:27 PM #19Coaching Staff
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That was Basil Brush ya daftie....... Originally Posted by The 90+2
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I think it would be nice to see him get some minutes in the friendlies coming up for Clarke to have a look at him. Doesn't mean he should be at the Euros, but it may spur Ryan on a bit knowing the manager is looking at him. It appears he'll be moving on in the summer as well and having an international cap to your name is always good on the CV when negotiating your next move.
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Did Lennon injure him? Originally Posted by Unseen work
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22-02-2021 02:30 PM #23Coaching Staff
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He was chucked in at Ibrox after being out for months and subbed because he wasnt sharp enough. Stunning management from Hecky again.
Wasnt given a real opportunity. Half the hibs support wrote him off on the basis of that 45 minutes too which was ridiculous.
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22-02-2021 02:49 PM #24
The problem is we ( Scotland) have an absolute surfeit of left sided attacking defenders & midfield players & (if LG isn't fit) not one striker of quality.
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I thought Hyndman looked poor to be fair. Another shocking signing. Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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22-02-2021 07:38 PM #26resident moaning git
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Hmm...I feel a complaint coming on as it was all non alcoholic stuff when we went to Portimao last year. Mind you it was a Monday evening. And cold! Originally Posted by brog
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22-02-2021 11:20 PM #27First Team Regular
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Top flight is always non alcoholic in Portugal Originally Posted by DaveF
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22-02-2021 11:33 PM #28Coaching Staff
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I was desperate for him to succeed and wanted to see him be good for us - but he just wasn’t. Originally Posted by Since452
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Given his pedigree, what a disappointment he was.
I don’t think murder is too far off the mark tbh. Got plenty of opportunities based on reputation and delivered absolutely nowt.
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23-02-2021 10:45 AM #29Ah, didn't know that. Both Farense & Portimonense were in 2nd div when i went there. As an aside, on the general status of Portuguese footy. Pacos De Ferreira are currently 5th in league behind the usual 4. Their stadium holds less than 10k but could still accommodate the whole population of the town (though surrounding area is a fair bit higher). A nice story. Originally Posted by Juniper Greens
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I wish Ryan Gauld could have stayed with us long term. I guess he would have Jamie Murphy’s place in the squad if he had done.
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