I was just taking a look at how likely we are to get a British manager lifting the English Premiership this year and started looking at a few stats, which are fairly amazing !
Their are currently 8 English managers in the Premiership...7 of them are in charge of teams in the bottom 7 places !
no English manager has ever won the Premiership
In the last 70 (seventy !!) years, more Scottish managers have won the English top flight than English managers.
Scotsman George Ramsay won the title as Villa manager 6 times and introduced “the passing game” to England, before then it was all kick and rush and dribbling !
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15-02-2021 07:22 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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Interesting fact about Scottish Managers (NHC)
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15-02-2021 07:58 PM #2@hibs.net private member
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Without googling can anyone name me the only English manager ever to win the Scottish Top Division ?...he has a fantastic name !
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15-02-2021 09:30 PM #3Testimonial Due
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I know the answer because it came up on a zoom quiz I did a few months ago.
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he managed third Lanark. I won't post the answer tho because others might want a punt.
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That's an incredible stat, think Stubbs was only the second English manager to win the Scottish Cup too Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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Not John Barnes then? 😁 Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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Don’t know that one but the last English manager to win the top flight in England was Howard Wilkinson with Leeds, almost 30 years ago. I doubt there is any other top league in world football that has such a claim. Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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Don’t think that there are any obvious candidates to break that run at the moment.
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go for it Jimmy, no one else seems to have a clue. Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
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Just googled and scottish managers have won the top flight in england 41 times. Compared to english managers 65 times that is some stat.
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Well it wasn’t fin Terry Butcher 😡
SCOTTISH CUP WINNERS 2016
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It's about to be that **** Gerard
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The only other silverware won since then is one FA Cup and two League Cups. Originally Posted by Clarence
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16-02-2021 09:26 AM #12Testimonial Due
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Is that more managers, or more titles won by managers? Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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Obviously, even removing Ferguson, it's still a large amount.
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And didn't a very successful English manager not even have a Scottish name?
Bob Paisley.
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Dan mcmichael is the only Irishman, (not Northern Irish) to have won the Scottish top league and he done it with Hibernian in 1902.
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16-02-2021 11:33 AM #15Coaching Staff
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Leicester are probably the most likely. Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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But I think we all know it is going to be city again.
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Who was the first? Originally Posted by 1van Sprou7e
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16-02-2021 11:47 AM #17Administrator
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I'm not sure but how many non Scottish Scottish Cup winning managers have there been? Can't be many. I can think of: Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Stubbs
Lennon
Wright
Rodgers
Sergio
Ivanauskas
Golac
O'Neill
Advocat
McMichael
Are there any others apart from the elusive other Englishman?PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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He was mentioned in a Maurice Chevalier song! 😁 Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
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The English now make up the numbers in their own soulless league, be that club owners, managers or even players. Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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What they have is an investment vehicle dressed up as a football circus and the English are the clowns.
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16-02-2021 12:15 PM #20First Team Regular
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I remember reading an article in FourFourTwo a few years ago and at the time most of the top flight managers in the EPL were not only Scottish but were born within a 10 mile radius of Glasgow.
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16-02-2021 12:20 PM #21Coaching Staff
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Been awhile since a Scot won our league though? Mcleish would be the last one?
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I was going to post something similar last night, then realised I didn't know where in Ireland Dan was born, so it could have been in what is now the north. I'm sure Martin O'Neill, Neil Lennon and Brendan Rogers would all be happy to be considered Irishmen anyway. Originally Posted by Greencore
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16-02-2021 12:38 PM #23Coaching Staff
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That ship sailed a few years ago now with David Moyes currently the most prominent Scottish manager. Originally Posted by dalkeith stu
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Who is the most prominent Scottish manager after him?
Probably Alex Neil, Steve Clarke, Jack Ross and Derek McInnes
Very lean pickings indeed from the top 2 leagues down south and top 4 clubs in Scotland and International football.Last edited by CMurdoch; 16-02-2021 at 12:49 PM.
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Frank (Sauzee) Heaven for third Lanark, 1903-04 the year after Hibernian won it with Dan McMichael. Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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although I'm lead to believe that football historians dispute he was actually ever their manager but more a club secretary. at least the stato that argued with the question reader on the quiz said anyway.
I didn't get it right.
it's also worth noting that until wim Jansen in 1997-98, the only non Scots to win the league title were heaven and McMichael.
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Gordon Strachan? Originally Posted by ScottB
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Must have had one of the longest apprenticeships in English football, he was Liverpool assistant manager from the late 50s til he got the main job in 1973, I suppose when Shankley is in charge you need to wait your turn. Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
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Walter Smith Originally Posted by PatHead
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Originally Posted by hibby rae
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nning_managers
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Kind of crazy to think he was the last manager to win before Celtic's 9 when he was involved in Rangers' own 9IAR Originally Posted by hibby rae
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Falkirk won it with an English manager in the 50's. Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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