Brexit - What Now.

[Glory Lurker]

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It's all a bit Chris Morris.

"Does this mean war?"

It's war.

[degenerated]

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It's war.

The stretched twig of peace is at melting point

https://youtu.be/r3BO6GP9NMY

[wookie70]

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These stories just keep rolling out. C&M GLOBAL, aye right hen.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/...CCdzad7g8pM5I8

She voted Brexit because of the EU attempts to give workers more rights. I hope she gets what is coming to her

[Jack]

I'm not getting the VAT rules.

Surely if we're/I'm buying from the EU my purchase shouldn't include the EU VAT, or vis versa for someone buying UK goods in Europe. So its (VAT) cheaper at point of purchase.

With all these stories it appears that VAT is being added on at both ends ... along with the import/export taxes and administration and duty and delay surcharges and gazumped freighter costs and ...

[Just Alf]

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I'm not getting the VAT rules.

Surely if we're/I'm buying from the EU my purchase shouldn't include the EU VAT, or vis versa for someone buying UK goods in Europe. So its (VAT) cheaper at point of purchase.

With all these stories it appears that VAT is being added on at both ends ... along with the import/export taxes and administration and duty and delay surcharges and gazumped freighter costs and ...

I had a quick read about it the other day, the UK Gov want people selling to the UK to process the VAT at source then send the VAT to the taxman. All the other costs are as you say grabbed at point of import.

It seems if you want to sell to the UK you need to set up a VAT account and then manage it monthly, some companies have stopped exporting to us due to this, one argument I saw is that we're the only country worldwide that has implemented this process, if everyone did it then import/exports would be totally unworkable.



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[Killiehibbie]

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I'm not getting the VAT rules.

Surely if we're/I'm buying from the EU my purchase shouldn't include the EU VAT, or vis versa for someone buying UK goods in Europe. So its (VAT) cheaper at point of purchase.

With all these stories it appears that VAT is being added on at both ends ... along with the import/export taxes and administration and duty and delay surcharges and gazumped freighter costs and ...

I was under the impression that exports had no vat

[Keith_M]

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I was under the impression that exports had no vat

Me too

[degenerated]

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I had a quick read about it the other day, the UK Gov want people selling to the UK to process the VAT at source then send the VAT to the taxman. All the other costs are as you say grabbed at point of import.

It seems if you want to sell to the UK you need to set up a VAT account and then manage it monthly, some companies have stopped exporting to us due to this, one argument I saw is that we're the only country worldwide that has implemented this process, if everyone did it then import/exports would be totally unworkable.



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HMRC also charge those companies for use of their facilities, one company who had stopped trading with UK put a statement out saying alongside the administrative burden they were also expected to pay HMRC an annual fee of £1995 for the privilege.

[Jack]

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I was under the impression that exports had no vat

I was thinking along the lines of buying something that comes from Germany.

In the past VAT was charged in Germany and nothing more was said.

Now it seems, with the price on the website the same, Germany is still getting their VAT but the UK government is charging VAT as well. So it is charging VAT on the goods and the VAT.

[Killiehibbie]

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I was thinking along the lines of buying something that comes from Germany.

In the past VAT was charged in Germany and nothing more was said.

Now it seems, with the price on the website the same, Germany is still getting their VAT but the UK government is charging VAT as well. So it is charging VAT on the goods and the VAT.

I think you should be getting those goods without the German vat, mibbie.
German retailer ripping you off?


Just had a look and you should not be paying German vat.

[Jack]

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I think you should be getting those goods without the German vat, mibbie.
German retailer ripping you off?

I agree with you but from what I'm reading in the media about Mrs Angry from Morningside buying clothes from Europe that doesn't appear to be the case.

[Killiehibbie]

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I agree with you but from what I'm reading in the media about Mrs Angry from Morningside buying clothes from Europe that doesn't appear to be the case.

An opportunity for those guys told to set up shop in EU to also sell to UK cheaper than the locals.

Bloody Brits coming over here and stealing our e commerce might be said in Hamburg

[Mr Grieves]

Arlene Foster complaining about the EU threatening to trigger article 16 BUT also urging the UK to trigger article 16. You couldn't make it up


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55866285

[StevieC]

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She voted Brexit because of the EU attempts to give workers more rights. I hope she gets what is coming to her

And also despite the fact that 90% of her business was exporting!
You couldn’t make it up.

[Kato]

Shows how strong the propaganda was, weapons grade psycops.

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[greenlex]

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She voted Brexit because of the EU attempts to give workers more rights. I hope she gets what is coming to her

You have to wonder how these people are capable if running a business. WTF gives on in their heads?

[Just Alf]

And so it begins :-(

BBC News - Brexit: Mid and East Antrim withdraws staff after 'menacing behaviour'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55895276

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[Bostonhibby]

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You have to wonder how these people are capable if running a business. WTF gives on in their heads?

Looking at the picture it looks like they were capable of putting things in cardboard boxes/taking them out of cardboard boxes and sending and receiving them in exchange for money under the existing (EU?) Regulations.

Presumably they'd mastered the system as they'd been doing it for a while.

Their problem seems to be that the UK'S exit from that import/export system is bogging them down, maybe they should move to Europe, per the UK government's recent advice.

Got to wonder who to blame for this situation.



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[lapsedhibee]

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Looking at the picture it looks like they were capable of putting things in cardboard boxes/taking them out of cardboard boxes and sending and receiving them in exchange for money under the existing (EU?) Regulations.

Presumably they'd mastered the system as they'd been doing it for a while.

Their problem seems to be that the UK'S exit from that import/export system is bogging them down, maybe they should move to Europe, per the UK government's recent advice.

Got to wonder who to blame for this situation.

Pretty sure I read it was Remoaners to blame.

[Bostonhibby]

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Pretty sure I read it was Remoaners to blame.

Its certainly a safety net in a country where a lack of accountability and responsibility for your own actions comes from the very top.



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[JeMeSouviens]

"Will of the people"

[Ozyhibby]

EU staff in Belfast told not to go to work today after threats from loyalists.


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[Stairway 2 7]

And the tories thought there would be no problem putting a border in the Irish sea

[Bristolhibby]

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I think you should be getting those goods without the German vat, mibbie.
German retailer ripping you off?


Just had a look and you should not be paying German vat.

Problem is the German retailer now needs two prices.

EU price (inc German VAT)
U.K. price (minus German VAT) then U.K. VAT added and a proportion of admin “fee” added.

Say you have 1000 lines on your website, you’ll have to update all that.

Plus the forms that need filling in. TOTAL BOLLOCKS.

J

[147lothian]

Although I voted remain in 2016, I have to admit the EU has been really slow at rolling out the Covid-19 vaccine in comparison to the UK has this got anything to do with brixit?

[lapsedhibee]

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Although I voted remain in 2016, I have to admit the EU has been really slow at rolling out the Covid-19 vaccine in comparison to the UK has this got anything to do with brixit?

No.

[danhibees1875]

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Although I voted remain in 2016, I have to admit the EU has been really slow at rolling out the Covid-19 vaccine in comparison to the UK has this got anything to do with brixit?

I'm relatively certain that the UK would have always had it's own vaccine approval process (MHRA) but I'm not sure how our procurement would have went.

I think it's likely we'd have went separately from the EU even if we were still in (or not on the verge of leaving anyway) but not sure I've seen that confirmed either way, and I'm not sure why I think that as I'm not sure any EU countries did procure separately...

[JeMeSouviens]

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Problem is the German retailer now needs two prices.

EU price (inc German VAT)
U.K. price (minus German VAT) then U.K. VAT added and a proportion of admin “fee” added.

Say you have 1000 lines on your website, you’ll have to update all that.

Plus the forms that need filling in. TOTAL BOLLOCKS.

J

German retailers are used to catering for the 6 million odd German speakers in Switzerland who have the same issues as we now have.

[Mr Grieves]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55913907

I don't think it's the EU's mess to sort

[lapsedhibee]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55913907

I don't think it's the EU's mess to sort

Expect to hear loads of "We were rushed into signing up to the protocol without fully understanding its implications" from MPs who voted not to scrutinise the protocol.