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    It's the internet, it's what happens here.

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    Seems like a bit of a hostage to fortune, but then 'optimistic' does a fair bit of heavy lifting after the fact. I've never understood the bizarre continued political fighting about this bridge - it seems for some people it has to be a bad Nat bridge or a good Nat bridge whether openly stated or as subtext. It can't just be a bridge. Fair enough to take positions when it was opened to some degree but to be carrying on now is just weird.

    It always reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlkVS66tHkk
    Alex Cole-Hamilton looked much better in the hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    I'll take that as a compliment considering my post was providing the context that was missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I'll take that as a compliment considering my post was providing the context that was missing.
    No it shows your snide argumentative nature when I post anything regardless the subject...Just Alf posted basicly the same thing prior to my post...I don't see you criticising his post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Nope, they said the adverse weather thresholds were higher meaning a significant reduction in closures.

    From what I read this morning some ice had built up at the top of a tower and they were making sure nothing would fall onto cars underneath, once confirmed they reopened.

    Personally I'm glad the bridge operations guys are looking after us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Finally, some much needed humour.


    Reported. My ice sensers working from home quip was Best Joke on the Fringe material! :-)

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    Closed again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Closed again.
    Surprised it hasn't been more often with the low temperatures we have had for the last few weeks.

    But it does prove that the ice sensors are working

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Surprised it hasn't been more often with the low temperatures we have had for the last few weeks.

    But it does prove that the ice sensors are working
    Is it just the new bridge that has the sensors? The forth road bridge is also closed for the same reason today.

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    My poor colleague is having to go to the office today instead of working from home in Dalgetty Bay, so it's the long way round for him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Is it just the new bridge that has the sensors? The forth road bridge is also closed for the same reason today.
    QF crossing closed because the ice sensors identified the build up of ice. FRB closed because of ice and wind
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    It’s open for north bound traffic now.

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    It’s a farce that the bridge keeps needing to be closed for safety reasons but it’s a bigger joke to send people via Kincardine when the Forth bridge is available and open. Transport Scotland need to get a grip of this issue and sort the Queensferry bridge and have the Forth as a back up. TBF the whole project has been a joke from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    It’s a farce that the bridge keeps needing to be closed for safety reasons but it’s a bigger joke to send people via Kincardine when the Forth bridge is available and open. Transport Scotland need to get a grip of this issue and sort the Queensferry bridge and have the Forth as a back up. TBF the whole project has been a joke from start to finish.
    I was checking this morning for updates, as my girlfriend needs to cross the bridge to get to work, and they'd mentioned that if the Queensferry Crossing was still closed tomorrow, they'd be opening the Forth Road Bridge to traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    QF crossing closed because the ice sensors identified the build up of ice. FRB closed because of ice and wind
    The FRB was open to public transport those morning AFAIK.
    The tested diversion route for non-public transport wasn't implemented because it takes 5 hours to put up the signage and although the poor weather was forecasted, those in charge didn't think it worth it, or something like that.
    As reported by Alex Cole-Hamilton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    The FRB was open to public transport those morning AFAIK.
    The tested diversion route for non-public transport wasn't implemented because it takes 5 hours to put up the signage and although the poor weather was forecasted, those in charge didn't think it worth it, or something like that.
    As reported by Alex Cole-Hamilton.
    Cole-Hamilton will be tumescent at news of the bridge closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    Cole-Hamilton will be tumescent at news of the bridge closure.
    I don't agree with the mans politics, and he certainly seems to take great glee when the bridge is in the news for the wrong reasons, but I can't remember the FRB being closed as often for ice. It was obviously shut to high siders a lot for wind but the new crossing has certainly fixed that problem!

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    Is there not technology that can prevent or reduce ice and snow build up on bridges?

    Are the Oresund Bridge or the Russky Bridge, for example, closed fairly often throughout the winter? They are comparable in design and in a more hostile winter environment than the Queensferry Crossing so it would be interesting to know if they have comparable issues or if there is something different in the design that prevents ice forming on towers and cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Is there not technology that can prevent or reduce ice and snow build up on bridges?

    Is the Oresund Bridge, for example, closed fairly often throughout the winter? That's in a more hostile winter environment than the Queensferry Crossing so it would be interesting to know if it has comparable issues or if there is something different in the design that prevents ice forming on towers and cables.

    The could have put in heated cables...I guess that was not the option they chose on the design....might be hard to rectify....

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    I know in the grand scheme of things two or three days a year isn’t that bad, but for a brand new bridge to be closed in Scotland for weather conditions that happen every year isn’t great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Is there not technology that can prevent or reduce ice and snow build up on bridges?

    Are the Oresund Bridge or the Russky Bridge, for example, closed fairly often throughout the winter? They are comparable in design and in a more hostile winter environment than the Queensferry Crossing so it would be interesting to know if they have comparable issues or if there is something different in the design that prevents ice forming on towers and cables.
    Both of those bridges close at times due to ice build up. I’m not so sure the Oresund bridge faces dramatically different conditions from the Queensferry crossing either. It’s a problem seafarers have battled with for centuries and they don’t always win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Both of those bridges close at times due to ice build up. I’m not so sure the Oresund bridge faces dramatically different conditions from the Queensferry crossing either. It’s a problem seafarers have battled with for centuries and they don’t always win.
    Trying to chip the ice off the focsle in the early hours is not the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Trying to chip the ice off the focsle in the early hours is not the best.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-58384588

    Cleaning going on for 6 weeks. Temporary 40mph speed limit, which is probably faster than it is at times just now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-58384588

    Cleaning going on for 6 weeks. Temporary 40mph speed limit, which is probably faster than it is at times just now

    ****ing irritating.

    Since bridge posts are like the now ancient flag debate posts I'll leave it at that.

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    I’ve been across the bridge a few times over the last few weeks, always at the weekends, and always caught in tailbacks which appear to have been caused by nothing other than the speed limit over the bridge being dropped to 50 - no idea why but its a major pain, and wasn’t part of the pitch for the new bridge that the speed limit would be maintained at 70?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    I’ve been across the bridge a few times over the last few weeks, always at the weekends, and always caught in tailbacks which appear to have been caused by nothing other than the speed limit over the bridge being dropped to 50 - no idea why but its a major pain, and wasn’t part of the pitch for the new bridge that the speed limit would be maintained at 70?
    I have no idea why that is but it's always seemed that way to me too - a tailback on both sides where traffic is meant to merge after joining to get onto the bridge.

    That seems to happen irrespective of speed limits.

    I also only ever seem to cross at weekends but I'm not sure I've ever had a clean run over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    ****ing irritating.
    A brilliant contribution to this thread from someone who complained about the increasing ‘twitterisation’ of the Holy Ground yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    I have no idea why that is but it's always seemed that way to me too - a tailback on both sides where traffic is meant to merge after joining to get onto the bridge.

    That seems to happen irrespective of speed limits.

    I also only ever seem to cross at weekends but I'm not sure I've ever had a clean run over it.
    The merging on approach to the bridge from the South is a nightmare. The merging lane coming down from South Queensferry is really long which should allow for a smoother merging of traffic but nobody makes use of it and tries merging straight which causes tailbacks in both lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    The merging on approach to the bridge from the South is a nightmare. The merging lane coming down from South Queensferry is really long which should allow for a smoother merging of traffic but nobody makes use of it and tries merging straight which causes tailbacks in both lanes.
    I noticed yesterday they've extended the solid white line much further along the slip now, presumably for that very reason.

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