Redundancy

[Hibrandenburg]

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As I recall the German system had more pros than cons...the Christmas money was my favourite, there was also a savings scheme where the Government gave DM50ish and that was saved for 7 years and then paid out, doing your tax return also once a year normally led to a payout. First year of having a child they paid out DM400 ...yes tax his higher, but it goes back into the system rather than lining Torys and their chums pockets with huge tax breaks.

I think you're bang on the money with your final assumption.

[Jones28]

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A little bit more buddy. The Germans are sticklers for qualifications and apprenticeships, for example a petrol station attendant would be expected to carry out a 3 year apprenticeship before he could qualify as a recognised "Tankwart". The training I will receive is a fast track course designed for people with driving experience that haven't done the 4 year professional driver apprenticeship that is needed here to drive commercially. Most of my time will be spent in the classroom preparing for the state exam and will cover general road safety, load safety, fuel efficient driving, vehicle maintenance and repair as well as other haulage industry related subject matter. The Germans don't do half arsed. All in all were looking at around €10 000.

Holy ****, that's fantastic.

[Keith_M]

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I thought similar, but it's only the pan European haulage that is "fest in polnischen Hände", most internal haulage is done by Germans.

TBF, I did see a couple of German HGVs the last time we visited, so you might be OK.

But just in case, here's lesson number 1...


Always say 'dzień dobry', not 'dobry dzień'. If you use the latter, you'll come across as a person trying to sound Polish but failing miserably

[Hibrandenburg]

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TBF, I did see a couple of German HGVs the last time we visited, so you might be OK.

But just in case, here's lesson number 1...


Always say 'dzień dobry', not 'dobry dzień'. If you use the latter, you'll come across as a person trying to sound Polish but failing miserably

They all speak English, they've learnt it from Country and Western songs whilst on the road.

[Keith_M]

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They all speak English, they've learnt it from Country and Western songs whilst on the road.

So, "Howdy y'all" would be preferable?

[Keith_M]

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Thanks.

TBH, now that most people are doing home-working, finding another job isn't as much of a big deal as it used to be.

DLR are actually advertising for people to work remotely on an Air Traffic Control project, but I'd have to be able to travel to Germany at some point in the new year.

DLR job didn't progress (they decided they want somebody with a Masters) but I've practically been offered a job with a start-up in Dresden.

I thought I was back in Scotland for good but it just hasn't worked out, with one thing and another, so it might be for the best.

Wherever I go next, I want it to be the last move I ever make, so it's a big decision.

[Keith_M]

p.s. Has anybody else got progress reports on re-training, finding new roles, etc?

[Smartie]

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DLR job didn't progress (they decided they want somebody with a Masters) but I've practically been offered a job with a start-up in Dresden.

I thought I was back in Scotland for good but it just hasn't worked out, with one thing and another, so it might be for the best.

Wherever I go next, I want it to be the last move I ever make, so it's a big decision.

Who are DLR?

(Not sure why Docklands Light Railway would need air traffic controllers).

[Keith_M]

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Who are DLR?

(Not sure why Docklands Light Railway would need air traffic controllers).

Docklands Light Railway are the leading suppliers of Air Traffic Software in the world, according to Gavin Williamson



Or if you're not a brainwashed Brexiteer, it could stand for Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt (German Aerospace Center)

[McD]

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p.s. Has anybody else got progress reports on re-training, finding new roles, etc?

I found out a few days ago I am at risk of redundancy, will be leaving on the 31st of December unless I find another role. I have applied for one, and another dept have offered me a position even tbhough they know its not really what I want to do (I worked closely with them for several years, and they've made it clear I'm very well thought of), and it would be a step down into a space where it would be more difficult to move on to something I'd want to do, which they've also acknowledged.


That all said, the redundancy package is not to be sniffed at, about a years salary plus some benefits for a year, so if the job I've applied for doesn't pan out I think i'll likely be leaving.


To begin with I was really keen to stay, but being a rep during collective consultation has shown me a lot about the people at the top, and having seen what the new world looks like, I'm releived I won't be a part of it, so getting offered a redundancy package isn't necessarily a bad option (most people who are staying are not happy)

[Hibrandenburg]

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p.s. Has anybody else got progress reports on re-training, finding new roles, etc?

I'm starting my retraining on the 18th of January, 5 months fully paid with the employment agency footing the bill 100%. They're even covering my travel costs. Handed in my iPad and security passes today and got my reference (written by myself) signed and stamped by my former employer. Thinking of heading to the coast for Christmas and New Year before I go back to school. This will be my fourth occupational qualification since leaving school and probably my last.

[Keith_M]

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I found out a few days ago I am at risk of redundancy, will be leaving on the 31st of December unless I find another role. I have applied for one, and another dept have offered me a position even tbhough they know its not really what I want to do (I worked closely with them for several years, and they've made it clear I'm very well thought of), and it would be a step down into a space where it would be more difficult to move on to something I'd want to do, which they've also acknowledged.


That all said, the redundancy package is not to be sniffed at, about a years salary plus some benefits for a year, so if the job I've applied for doesn't pan out I think i'll likely be leaving.


To begin with I was really keen to stay, but being a rep during collective consultation has shown me a lot about the people at the top, and having seen what the new world looks like, I'm releived I won't be a part of it, so getting offered a redundancy package isn't necessarily a bad option (most people who are staying are not happy)

It sounds like you have similar management to mine, as they've been shown up to be a bunch of complete barstewards.

That's good that there are at least a couple of options for you, though.

[Keith_M]

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I'm starting my retraining on the 18th of January, 5 months fully paid with the employment agency footing the bill 100%. They're even covering my travel costs. Handed in my iPad and security passes today and got my reference (written by myself) signed and stamped by my former employer. Thinking of heading to the coast for Christmas and New Year before I go back to school. This will be my fourth occupational qualification since leaving school and probably my last.

Do you think you'll miss working at the airport?

[Hibrandenburg]

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Do you think you'll miss working at the airport?

Nope, I'll miss some of my colleagues and the cheap flights but not the job or the environment.

Hope you manage to get some certainty about your future soon.

[McD]

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It sounds like you have similar management to mine, as they've been shown up to be a bunch of complete barstewards.

That's good that there are at least a couple of options for you, though.

aye, there’s been precious little people skills or care shown, I’m glad I’m not going to be a part of it.


I think I’m most likely to either take the job ive applied for if offered, or take the redundancy.

[Keith_M]

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Nope, I'll miss some of my colleagues and the cheap flights but not the job or the environment.

Hope you manage to get some certainty about your future soon.

Cheers

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aye, there’s been precious little people skills or care shown, I’m glad I’m not going to be a part of it.


I think I’m most likely to either take the job ive applied for if offered, or take the redundancy.

Best of luck mate.

[McD]

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Cheers







Best of luck mate.

Cheers mate, appreciated


Have you got a clear idea of what the future holds for you?

[Keith_M]

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Cheers mate, appreciated


Have you got a clear idea of what the future holds for you?

Not really, but I'm honestly not too worried about it.

There are loads of people in far worse situations than me.

[McD]

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Not really, but I'm honestly not too worried about it.

There are loads of people in far worse situations than me.

Good to hear that you're in an ok place with it, and you're right of course, many people much worse off

[Keith_M]

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DLR job didn't progress (they decided they want somebody with a Masters) but I've practically been offered a job with a start-up in Dresden.

I thought I was back in Scotland for good but it just hasn't worked out, with one thing and another, so it might be for the best.

Wherever I go next, I want it to be the last move I ever make, so it's a big decision.

So I've been given a concrete offer with the company in Dresden but, as you can imagine, that's going to be a bit of a logistical nightmare moving over there anytime soon (provisional start-date is March 1st). I think we're just going to go for it, though.

Thankfully the cost of moving is not an issue, as I've negotiated a redundancy package with my current employer


Anybody else got any work updates?

[Berwickhibby]

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So I've been given a concrete offer with the company in Dresden but, as you can imagine, that's going to be a bit of a logistical nightmare moving over there anytime soon (provisional start-date is March 1st). I think we're just going to go for it, though.

Thankfully the cost of moving is not an issue, as I've negotiated a redundancy package with my current employer


Anybody else got any work updates?

I started yestederday as a bank contact tracer, 5 days training and working from home.

[Hibrandenburg]

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So I've been given a concrete offer with the company in Dresden but, as you can imagine, that's going to be a bit of a logistical nightmare moving over there anytime soon (provisional start-date is March 1st). I think we're just going to go for it, though.

Thankfully the cost of moving is not an issue, as I've negotiated a redundancy package with my current employer


Anybody else got any work updates?

My retraining has been delayed for a month due to Covid, it means I'll probably have a month of being unemployed in June/July, the first time ever I've had to register as unemployed. I was hoping to get it all done whilst on Garden Leave but will probably now take an extended summer holiday after finishing training.

Good luck with the new venture.

[Hibrandenburg]

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I started yestederday as a bank contact tracer, 5 days training and working from home.

That should up the gleam on your trousers.

Good luck.

[Berwickhibby]

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That should up the gleam on your trousers.

Good luck.

Oi Scaley...that's Sgt Shiney arse to you lol

[Keith_M]

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I started yestederday as a bank contact tracer, 5 days training and working from home.

Hope it works out for you.



Incidentally, what does that job entail? It's not something I'm really familiar with.

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My retraining has been delayed for a month due to Covid, it means I'll probably have a month of being unemployed in June/July, the first time ever I've had to register as unemployed. I was hoping to get it all done whilst on Garden Leave but will probably now take an extended summer holiday after finishing training.

Good luck with the new venture.

Thanks Paul. Hopefully your training course isn't delayed for too long.


I expect the 'sixty per-cent of previous salary' dole money will keep you going in the meantime...

[Berwickhibby]

[QUOTE=Keith_M;6420965]Hope it works out for you.



Incidentally, what does that job entail? It's not something I'm really familiar with.





Basiclly, I am part of the track and trace team, calling people about being in contact with and obtaining who they have been in contact with. I don't start the training until next week so I don't know the full ins and outs.

[Keith_M]

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Basiclly, I am part of the track and trace team, calling people about being in contact with and obtaining who they have been in contact with. I don't start the training until next week so I don't know the full ins and outs.

Ah, OK, got you.

Cheers.

[JeMeSouviens]

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So I've been given a concrete offer with the company in Dresden but, as you can imagine, that's going to be a bit of a logistical nightmare moving over there anytime soon (provisional start-date is March 1st). I think we're just going to go for it, though.

Thankfully the cost of moving is not an issue, as I've negotiated a redundancy package with my current employer


Anybody else got any work updates?

Best of luck with the move. I've just started a new job working remotely for a Silicon Valley startup, so I may never have to go to an office again!

[Keith_M]

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Best of luck with the move. I've just started a new job working remotely for a Silicon Valley startup, so I may never have to go to an office again!

Where are you located just now? No chance of having to relocate?

[Barney McGrew]

I was fortunate enough to get a job with a previous employer, albeit at a lower level than when I was with them previously and also meaning I have to travel for nearly two hours a day in total to get there. It really isn’t great, but it’s something at least.

I’ve been applying for other roles for the last five month but I’m finding it increasingly frustrating. As someone who has worked in hospitality and retail for my whole career, jobs in those sectors are incredibly few and far between at the moment and other sectors are not looking at people from outwith their own, regardless of experience and transferable skills.

And that’s feedback from the ones that even reply. I reckon 95% of the roles I’ve applied for don’t see any kind of response at all, not even to say ‘thanks but no thanks’.