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    Disappointing but... fair enough.

    What did he actually say?
    He seemed to be calling up the spirit of MLK's 'I have a dream' speech in support of his own theory about the use of 'BAME'. King's daughter told him the speech was about racism.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...et-b77732.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    He seemed to be calling up the spirit of MLK's 'I have a dream' speech in support of his own theory about the use of 'BAME'. King's daughter told him the speech was about racism.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...et-b77732.html

    Wow, how could anybody be so unaware of how inappropriate that is?

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    She thinks the Tories have drifted too far to the left!! Probably off to join UKiP or Galloway's bunch of nutballs
    Dross isn't anti Scottish enough for her. 😁

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    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true

    This has been a common theme throughout the pandemic were awarding of government contracts is dependent on links to the tory party rather than capability and experience. Dodgy as ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Grieves View Post
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    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true

    This has been a common theme throughout the pandemic were awarding of government contracts is dependent on links to the tory party rather than capability and experience. Dodgy as ****.
    When the rush to award contracts (and therefore public funds) to their pals and beyond was challenged, Rees Mogg was quick to justify the use of emergency powers for expiditing stuff through parliament.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/l...the-executive/

    We now know that emergency powers means they will stretch the boundaries and do what they want, the public sector and those who aren't amongst the very rich minority are going to bear the brunt of this latest wealth transfer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Grieves View Post
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    This has been a common theme throughout the pandemic were awarding of government contracts is dependent on links to the tory party rather than capability and experience. Dodgy as ****.
    Wrong to characterise all Tory ministers as having been dodgy with public Coronavirus money. Honest Bob Jenrick, for example, has been dodgy without going anywhere near the pandemic for an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Wrong to characterise all Tory ministers as having been dodgy with public Coronavirus money. Honest Bob Jenrick, for example, has been dodgy without going anywhere near the pandemic for an excuse.
    I don't think he was even wearing a mask, or a horizontal stripy jumper or carrying a bag with swag on it when he agreed to help one of their pals avoid paying in excess of £100m to the public purse.

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    If you had told me 35 years ago that a group of politicians would come along that were more despicable than the PM back then I would have laughed at you. But you would have been right. That PM governed by the principles she had, even though they were anathema to me. But she wasn’t a criminal (at least not in the formal sense), corrupt or a compulsive liar. Nor someone who condoned workplace bullying.

    So this lot have sunk as far as they can go. You would like to think so, but I expect to be contradicted on that before too long.
    Just as with trump and the republicans all the tories want is power. They don’t care how devastated the uk will be by brexit,how devastated by the horrendous handling of covid and they don’t care that they are wasting tens of million. on contracts for their mates who are obviously totally unable to deliver track and trace.The bullying of Patel is just a mere annoyance and of course the expenses scandals still continue. I too detested tbw but she seems like someone who did what she said she would do unlike the ****bags who change tack every other week. Youngsters coming up to 18 must wonder wtf is going on and is there any point voting if they get away with the totally corruption and ineptitude of Johnson and his goons. They actually make politics seems totally devoid of any moral fibre the same as trumps republicans. They are and always will be the self serving nasty party. Oh that it was heseltine or Clarke in charge.
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    Don't we have some resident Tory party members/voters that feel the need to defend the Government and their friends?

    I'd really be interested in their point of view on the current goings-on mentioned in recent comments on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Don't we have some resident Tory party members/voters that feel the need to defend the Government and their friends?

    I'd really be interested in their point of view on the current goings-on mentioned in recent comments on this thread.

    Very few I'd imagine, particularly with the present crew in charge. It's probably worth posting a 'Tories baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad' however just for balance with the nationalist chums on other issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Very few I'd imagine, particularly with the present crew in charge. It's probably worth posting a 'Tories baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad' however just for balance with the nationalist chums on other issues.

    My current political viewpoint is that they're all bad, but to varying levels.

    Never trust a politician

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    My current political viewpoint is that they're all bad, but to varying levels.

    Never trust a politician
    Well I certainly wouldn't have either set of the buffoons currently in charge In Westminster or Holyrood during a pandemic if I had a choice. But then what are you to do when you get governments forced upon you that you didn't vote for in both the UK and Scotland?

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    Well I certainly wouldn't have either set of the buffoons currently in charge In Westminster or Holyrood during a pandemic if I had a choice. But then what are you to do when you get governments forced upon you that you didn't vote for in both the UK and Scotland?
    At Westminster, your number 1 priority should be electoral reform. At least force the Tories to build a tent for the most *******-ish 50% rather than the most *******-ish 40%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    At Westminster, your number 1 priority should be electoral reform. At least force the Tories to build a tent for the most *******-ish 50% rather than the most *******-ish 40%.
    Doesn't really answer my point though does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Well I certainly wouldn't have either set of the buffoons currently in charge In Westminster or Holyrood during a pandemic if I had a choice. But then what are you to do when you get governments forced upon you that you didn't vote for in both the UK and Scotland?

    How do you mean 'forced' on you?

    Weren't each of those governments fairly voted in under our current electoral systems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    How do you mean 'forced' on you?

    Weren't each of those governments fairly voted in under our current electoral systems?

    Yes they were. Which underlines the point that it doesn't matter how much subdivision we do, people are not all going to get the government they vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Yes they were. Which underlines the point that it doesn't matter how much subdivision we do, people are not all going to get the government they vote for.

    Ah, OK, I get your point now.

    That's democracy for you. Maybe we should go the Chinese route

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Ah, OK, I get your point now.

    That's democracy for you. Maybe we should go the Chinese route
    North Korean for me, oddly dressed fat guy who cuts his hair with garden shears, multiple children and partners, isolationist policy as he blames his neighbours for his own shortcomings and makes it all up as he goes along because he can.

    Can't see anyone voting for that sort of leadership though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    The wife is swimming in cash. Richer than The Windsor Firm. We are going down the oligarch route with this crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    North Korean for me, oddly dressed fat guy who cuts his hair with garden shears, multiple children and partners, isolationist policy as he blames his neighbours for his own shortcomings and makes it all up as he goes along because he can.

    Can't see anyone voting for that sort of leadership though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    This is funny!
    I'm here all week

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    I'm here all week

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    Zahawi has been announced as being responsible for the vaccine rollout. It’s like they want it to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Zahawi has been announced as being responsible for the vaccine rollout. It’s like they want it to fail.
    I see he's off to a flyer having already been contradicted by Gove on vaccine "passports".

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    Hancock and Rees-Mogg falsely attributing the speed of vaccine approval to Brexit. In the latter's case, he seems to have invented a law change.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Hancock and Rees-Mogg falsely attributing the speed of vaccine approval to Brexit. In the latter's case, he seems to have invented a law change.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730
    But surely the vaccine was approved by an entirely independent body, as in a body that is, and hopefully always was independent of any political or other nefarious interference or influence?

    That's what the experts were telling us just today.

    Politicians lying? Surely not. Wasn't even written on the side of a bus.

    Applying the same logic, why are they bothering turning chunks of Kent into a lorry park?

    Surely the freight will whizz seamlessly through the ports, especially now Gove's in control.



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    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...an-all-of-them

    How in God's name is this guy in a job at all? And Education Minister!? A genuine national embarrassment. I actually ventured onto the Daily Mail to see the comments and even they overwhelmingly think he's a idiot.

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    How in God's name is this guy in a job at all? And Education Minister!? A genuine national embarrassment. I actually ventured onto the Daily Mail to see the comments and even they overwhelmingly think he's a idiot.
    Is he part of a levelling-up agenda? Every now and again, allow a non-Eton educated moron to rise to the top so you can point at him when anyone suggests that government is nothing but a public-school old boys' network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Is he part of a levelling-up agenda? Every now and again, allow a non-Eton educated moron to rise to the top so you can point at him when anyone suggests that government is nothing but a public-school old boys' network.
    You might be onto something there, they might even have filled the Chris Grayling role as well.

    Ticks so many boxes for the Nasty party, probably a future leader unless Patel puts something in his tea.



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