Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[mjhibby]

There was no way Patel was going to be sacked after the Cummings debacle. The only good thing is it further erodes trust in the nasty party. The fact that the times and the telegraph are openly critical constantly tells you how bad these are ********s are. Utter ****bags with not one ounce of moral fibre amongst them. None of them would ever get a decent job if it wasn’t for the old school tie routine.

[Moulin Yarns]

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There was no way Patel as going to be sacked after the Cummings debacle. The only good thing is it further erodes trust in the nasty party. The fact that the times and the telegraph are openly critical constantly tells you how bad these are ********s are. Utter ****bags with not one ounce of moral fibre amongst them. None of them would ever get a decent job if it wasn’t for the old school tie routine.

Don't you mean the Cummins debacle.

[hibsbollah]

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Ms Patel released a statement saying she was sorry "that my behaviour in the past has upset people".

they kind of "apologies" really grinds my gears

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Me too. And I felt similarly about Corbyns ‘apology for the hurt caused’ apology. If you feel like you’ve done nothing wrong, don’t apologise, argue your case. And If there’s clear evidence that you’ve been a bully, you need to just apologise for the bullying. The clear subtext otherwise is ‘it’s their fault for being upset’.

My daughter is about to start a new job, her first ‘proper’ one after graduating. At the Home Office
Dads don’t like bullies. That Patel needs to watch herself.

[Hibrandenburg]

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There was no way Patel was going to be sacked after the Cummings debacle. The only good thing is it further erodes trust in the nasty party. The fact that the times and the telegraph are openly critical constantly tells you how bad these are ********s are. Utter ****bags with not one ounce of moral fibre amongst them. None of them would ever get a decent job if it wasn’t for the old school tie routine.

I think there's similarities between Trump's inner circle and the current UK Cabinet. They all have so much dirt on each other that if one of them gets the elbow, then it's mutually assured destruction. It's for that reason I believe Cummings is still on the inside.

[Bostonhibby]

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I think there's similarities between Trump's inner circle and the current UK Cabinet. They all have so much dirt on each other that if one of them gets the elbow, then it's mutually assured destruction. It's for that reason I believe Cummings is still on the inside.

The most worrying part is that so long as they don't actually call out the behaviours of Bozo himself they can pretty much do what they like safe in the knowledge that they are effectively safe from the sack.

As you say it's a gang where what they have in common keeps them together, all we need is the Geoffrey Howe moment but as there's no one with any real gravitas or backbone amongst them we might have a long wait.



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[hibsbollah]

Boris Battles Experts To Save Christmas!

Front page of the Express.

[Future17]

I see Phillip Rutland wasn't even interviewed for the inquiry into Patel's behaviour. What a joke.

[Pretty Boy]

One of the indirect benefits of the covid vaccine roll out is that it brings the end of some of the main players of this government ever closer.

An enquiry into the handling is inevitable and it will take place relatively soon after a return to normality. Whilst none of the devolved administrations are likely to come out of it well, the maim criticisms are going to be aimed at the UK govt. It simply won't be allowed to be a whitewash so there will be an expectation of resignations. I don't think any of the main players will want to hang around for that.

Johnson tendering his resignation on his own terms mid next year and taking up a life of paid consultancies and writing columns is highly likely imo.

[neil7908]

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Boris Battles Experts To Save Christmas!

Front page of the Express.

Jesus wept.

[The Harp Awakes]

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I think there's similarities between Trump's inner circle and the current UK Cabinet. They all have so much dirt on each other that if one of them gets the elbow, then it's mutually assured destruction. It's for that reason I believe Cummings is still on the inside.

Yes, clearly Bojo is a convert to Trumpism. No morals and the large Tory majority at Westminster makes him think he is invincible. Unlike Trump though his unwillingness to sack people that deserve it makes him a weak leader.

An absolute gift for those who want Scottish independence.

[HibernianJK]

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Yes, clearly Bojo is a convert to Trumpism. No morals and the large Tory majority at Westminster makes him think he is invincible. Unlike Trump though his unwillingness to sack people that deserve it makes him a weak leader.

An absolute gift for those who want Scottish independence.

Trump doesn’t sack those who deserve it. He sacks anyone and everyone who disagrees/speaks out against him. Of which there have been a few.

The whole Westminster cabal would never dream of doing such a thing towards BoJo.

[ACLeith]

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They ****ing disgust me, repulse me and offend me on a level I've never experienced before.

They offend me marginally less than the electorate who continue to condone and accept their behaviour.

If you had told me 35 years ago that a group of politicians would come along that were more despicable than the PM back then I would have laughed at you. But you would have been right. That PM governed by the principles she had, even though they were anathema to me. But she wasn’t a criminal (at least not in the formal sense), corrupt or a compulsive liar. Nor someone who condoned workplace bullying.

So this lot have sunk as far as they can go. You would like to think so, but I expect to be contradicted on that before too long.

[ACLeith]

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Johnson tendering his resignation on his own terms mid next year and taking up a life of paid consultancies and writing columns is highly likely imo.

By Easter is my prediction

[Jack]

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One of the indirect benefits of the covid vaccine roll out is that it brings the end of some of the main players of this government ever closer.

An enquiry into the handling is inevitable and it will take place relatively soon after a return to normality. Whilst none of the devolved administrations are likely to come out of it well, the maim criticisms are going to be aimed at the UK govt. It simply won't be allowed to be a whitewash so there will be an expectation of resignations. I don't think any of the main players will want to hang around for that.

Johnson tendering his resignation on his own terms mid next year and taking up a life of paid consultancies and writing columns is highly likely imo.

The faces might change but with the right wing of the party firmly in control the substance will remain the same, jobs and contracts for the boys.

There's already suggestions Boris and his team got the Patel report watered down. The NAO report on the early covid contracts has already been dismissed out of hand.

The report from the enquiry into the cluster**** that has been the tory response to the pandemic will make you think you've been living in a parallel universe this past year.

[Future17]

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The faces might change but with the right wing of the party firmly in control the substance will remain the same, jobs and contracts for the boys.

There's already suggestions Boris and his team got the Patel report watered down. The NAO report on the early covid contracts has already been dismissed out of hand.

The report from the enquiry into the cluster**** that has been the tory response to the pandemic will make you think you've been living in a parallel universe this past year.

Yeah, apparently asked for the Patel report to be "palatable". Clearly had no interest in the truth which has been the case since he was a journalist making up quotations.

[Future17]

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If you had told me 35 years ago that a group of politicians would come along that were more despicable than the PM back then I would have laughed at you. But you would have been right. That PM governed by the principles she had, even though they were anathema to me. But she wasn’t a criminal (at least not in the formal sense), corrupt or a compulsive liar. Nor someone who condoned workplace bullying.

So this lot have sunk as far as they can go. You would like to think so, but I expect to be contradicted on that before too long.

Also worth bearing in mind that Johnson has stuck with Rees-Mogg, who has refused MPs (including those who are seriously ill or care for vulnerable relatives) the ability to work from home because it doesn't suit him personally. They are actually putting people's lives at risk.

[McD]

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By Easter is my prediction

yeah, he’ll wait til the vaccinations start, then claim a glorious churchillian victory steered by him, and try to step out on a (self perceived) high

[Bostonhibby]

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yeah, he’ll wait til the vaccinations start, then claim a glorious churchillian victory steered by him, and try to step out on a (self perceived) high

Plenty potential for yet another statement and reality gap to emerge

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[JeMeSouviens]

Here is a genuine first - a Tory at pains to uncover the truth. (No, I'm not kidding).

Step forward Neil O'Brien MP *

https://twitter.com/NeilDotObrien/st...30796966518785




* almost certainly in the wrong party.

[Jack]

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Here is a genuine first - a Tory at pains to uncover the truth. (No, I'm not kidding).

Step forward Neil O'Brien MP *

https://twitter.com/NeilDotObrien/st...30796966518785




* almost certainly in the wrong party.

In the interests of balance you should have started a thread "Torys tell the truth".

This could have been the only entry.

[JeMeSouviens]

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In the interests of balance you should have started a thread "Torys tell the truth".

This could have been the only entry.

Think you're jumping the gun a bit there - "Tory tells the truth" would be more accurate at this stage.

[Bostonhibby]

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Think you're jumping the gun a bit there - "Tory tells the truth" would be more accurate at this stage.

"Tory tells the truth and has whip withdrawn for not following government policy"?

Despite Bozo requesting that the truth be made more palatable.

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[lapsedhibee]

Ben Bradley in the news again, this time for failing to get Martin Luther King. He's certainly stepped up recently to fill the howling void created by Fatty Francois's unexplained media disappearance.

[Hiber-nation]

And more....that nice Charlie Elphicke this time https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020...eferences-case

[SHODAN]

This is the beginning of another cycle where Johnson is the new damage sink and the papers, and subsequently the public, will all forget anything bad ever happened and all go back to loving everything about the Tories when Sunak replaces him. It's exactly the same as what happened with May.

[Keith_M]

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Ben Bradley in the news again, this time for failing to get Martin Luther King. He's certainly stepped up recently to fill the howling void created by Fatty Francois's unexplained media disappearance.

Is this a euphemism, like, "He didn't get his Nat King Cole"?

[lapsedhibee]

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Is this a euphemism, like, "He didn't get his Nat King Cole"?

You're maybe thinking of 'MLK' being used as rhyming slang for 'end away', but I didn't intend it like that. Family board and all.

[Keith_M]

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You're maybe thinking of 'MLK' being used as rhyming slang for 'end away', but I didn't intend it like that. Family board and all.

Disappointing but... fair enough.

What did he actually say?

[SHODAN]

Michelle Ballantyne has resigned for some reason. I'm guessing it's an anti-lockdown thing?

[weecounty hibby]

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Michelle Ballantyne has resigned for some reason. I'm guessing it's an anti-lockdown thing?

She thinks the Tories have drifted too far to the left!! Probably off to join UKiP or Galloway's bunch of nutballs