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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Fair play to her for acting regardless. Does that mean she sits as an independent rather than losing her seat entirely?
    She continues as a Tory MP, she has not had the whip removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    She continues as a Tory MP, she has not had the whip removed.
    So what has she quit?
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    So what has she quit?
    According to the BBC article I posted earlier, she has quit her job at DEFRA
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    So what has she quit?
    Her Government post. She was a PPS at the Department of the Environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    According to the BBC article I posted earlier, she has quit her job at DEFRA
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    Her Government post. She was a PPS at the Department of the Environment.
    Thanks. I'd not read that paragraph originally, I thought the article had moved on from discussing her by then.
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Thanks. I'd not read that paragraph originally, I thought the article had moved on from discussing her by then.
    It did kind of jump about. 👍
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    This must be an error, surely? Liberals and centrists were absolutely certain that "anyone but Corbyn" would be at least 20 points ahead by now.
    It's never a good idea to go too wild about 1 poll. Look at the trends ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    It's never a good idea to go too wild about 1 poll. Look at the trends ...

    Your chart says it so much better than my inane waffle managed to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Your chart says it so much better than my inane waffle managed to do.

    I think the Tories are slow motion Donald Ducked already. Starmer is improving all the time, Covid is going to **** all overt the reputations of those in power for at least the next six months way worse than it has been in the first six and at the end of it all in three years time we'll have some Tory leader or other going back to the electorate offering the prospect of trying to deal with the Covid debt by raising taxes and cutting expenditure. They can kiss those Red Wall seats goodbye and a whole lot of other marginals and near marginals will be back in play.

    With Brexit no longer a campaign issue I think Johnson or his successor will have a lot of explaining to do. Loving the long term polling trends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    This U.K. government are more out of touch than anyone could have imagined. Can’t agree deals with local mayors or the EU but unite to starve the poorest kids in society. I’m sure all those voters that voted for them to get brexit done must be delighted with outcome of their elected members behaviour.
    Can't agree with that, they have merely fulfilled my expectations thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    I think the Tories are slow motion Donald Ducked already. Starmer is improving all the time, Covid is going to **** all overt the reputations of those in power for at least the next six months way worse than it has been in the first six and at the end of it all in three years time we'll have some Tory leader or other going back to the electorate offering the prospect of trying to deal with the Covid debt by raising taxes and cutting expenditure. They can kiss those Red Wall seats goodbye and a whole lot of other marginals and near marginals will be back in play.

    With Brexit no longer a campaign issue I think Johnson or his successor will have a lot of explaining to do. Loving the long term polling trends.
    Whilst I don't disagree with a word of this, that's not a lovely situation for anyone to inherit at that point, and the worst thing would be for there to be a short-lived unpopular Labour administration, the Tories cull who they need to and come back in to power to do what they do for another generation soon after.

    I realise that I'm describing most of the rest of my life here, lots of years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Whilst I don't disagree with a word of this, that's not a lovely situation for anyone to inherit at that point, and the worst thing would be for there to be a short-lived unpopular Labour administration, the Tories cull who they need to and come back in to power to do what they do for another generation soon after.

    I realise that I'm describing most of the rest of my life here, lots of years!
    If saying fantastic and fabulous frequently is enough to convince the electorate (and post Brexit I'm not saying it isn't) Bozo and Sunak's session today should ensure another landslide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It's less than a year since the Tories won the election by a fairly wide margin. Given the scale of the defeat Labour were looking at taking at least two election cycles to offer a real challenge to the Tories. If they keep improving as they have been doing then the next election will be a lot closer than anybody would have thought even a few months ago. The fallout from the shambolic handling of the Covid crisis alone is going to see votes shifting in huge numbers.
    Starmer continues to impress and Burnham's stand will have gone a long way to rebuilding the red wall. Keep watching the polls, they are only going to go one way for the foreseeable future.
    Labour were ahead for the majority of 2010-15, often in double digits. Then the compliant media turned the screw and an avalanche of pro-Tory propaganda completely overturned that lead in a matter of months.

    As long as these conditions remain we're going to have a Conservative government for decades. It's not going to change, until the voter demographics have shifted to the degree that boomers and Gen X can no longer swing an election.

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    she also thinks people with learning difficulties shouldn't have to be paid minimum wage, we are without a doubt witnessing the most evil crooked corrupt group of tories ever assembled in westminster.

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    she also thinks people with learning difficulties shouldn't have to be paid minimum wage, we are without a doubt witnessing the most evil crooked corrupt group of tories ever assembled in westminster.
    Horrendous

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    Marcus Rashfords Twitter this morning helps to restore faith in humanity a bit.. even though it’s farcical that it’s come to struggling businesses to step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    Marcus Rashfords Twitter this morning helps to restore faith in humanity a bit.. even though it’s farcical that it’s come to struggling businesses to step up.

    Doesn't it just? The guy is already a multi millionaire, has no need for the profile and his little to gain from it all and yet he's out in front doing what's right. And so are the businesses he is highlighting. It's an eternal fight between liberal and reactionary but this gives me faith that we will see the progressives in ascendancy again sooner or later.

    The Tories in the Red Wall seats really have poured petrol on themselves and then lit matches on this stuff. Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    Marcus Rashfords Twitter this morning helps to restore faith in humanity a bit.. even though it’s farcical that it’s come to struggling businesses to step up.
    Nothing should surprise me with Tories anymore, but the criticism of Rashford truly left me lost for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Doesn't it just? The guy is already a multi millionaire, has no need for the profile and his little to gain from it all and yet he's out in front doing what's right. And so are the businesses he is highlighting. It's an eternal fight between liberal and reactionary but this gives me faith that we will see the progressives in ascendancy again sooner or later.

    The Tories in the Red Wall seats rally have poured petrol on themselves and then lit matches on this stuff. Good.

    Seeing Tories trying to have a go at him for "virtue signaling" is pathetic.

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    Seeing Tories trying to have a go at him for "virtue signaling" is pathetic.
    The virtue signalling criticism doesn't even make sense.

    He's both rallying other people to help and rolling up his sleeves and getting involved himself. He's not sitting about pontificating and waiting for someone else to do the job.

    He's just a thoroughly decent person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Nothing should surprise me with Tories anymore, but the criticism of Rashford truly left me lost for words.
    I’ve not saw this - where about is being criticised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    I’ve not saw this - where about is being criticised?
    A few posters have touched on this above, but the main criticism seemed to be that he was "virtue-signalling". One of the reasons I was genuinely lost for words is that, as PB has said, it doesn't even make sense in this context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    I’ve not saw this - where about is being criticised?
    Twitter criticism of him for being virtue signalling, ignorant, from MP Ben Bradley amongst others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    She should just admit she joined the wrong party

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54642788

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    Labour were ahead for the majority of 2010-15, often in double digits. Then the compliant media turned the screw and an avalanche of pro-Tory propaganda completely overturned that lead in a matter of months.

    As long as these conditions remain we're going to have a Conservative government for decades. It's not going to change, until the voter demographics have shifted to the degree that boomers and Gen X can no longer swing an election.

    They'll need a new catchphrase, as the Anti-Semitic slurs* they used on Corbyn aren't going to work this time.



    * Interestingly enough, also used by the Guardian, who's policy is to never mention Corbyn in an article without using the phrase 'Anti-Semitic'.

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    Marcus Rashfords Twitter this morning helps to restore faith in humanity a bit.. even though it’s farcical that it’s come to struggling businesses to step up.
    Credit to Rashford and all the businesses\councils that are providing free lunches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Twitter criticism of him for being virtue signalling, ignorant, from MP Ben Bradley amongst others.
    I predict Mr Ben Bradley is going to have a very short Westminster career. He certainly deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Twitter criticism of him for being virtue signalling, ignorant, from MP Ben Bradley amongst others.
    It's because Rashford has demonstrated a humanity and genuine common touch which these b'strds often feign but occasionally the mask slips.



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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    I predict Mr Ben Bradley is going to have a very short Westminster career. He certainly deserves it.
    ‘Free school meals increase dependency culture’.
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    ‘Free school meals increase dependency culture’.
    A dangerous extremist right there.
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