What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[Sir David Gray]

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300 fans what’s the point? Getting the feeling it could be years until Easter road is packed again

It will certainly be months.

[Lago]

[QUOTE=Sir David Gray;6293854]It will certainly be months.
Many months

[EI255]

Ross County manger S Kettlewell says Celtic will be intimidated by a couple of hundred Ross County fans in the ground on Saturday.

Hmmm.... I beg to differ!

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[hibby6270]

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You do realise they are part of the same group as the Daily Ranger/Rebel...

......explains a lot.

[SteveHFC]

Aberdeen only letting fans in from the Aberdeen area.

I wonder if Hibs will do the same.

[Andy74]

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Aberdeen only letting fans in from the Aberdeen area.

I wonder if Hibs will do the same.

Would prefer it if we stick to Edinburgh and the surrounding area.

[Sir David Gray]

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Aberdeen only letting fans in from the Aberdeen area.

I wonder if Hibs will do the same.

I don't think they'll have a choice in the matter.

Utter nonsense.

[Robbo6-2]

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I don't think they'll have a choice in the matter.

Utter nonsense.

Nonsense?

[B.H.F.C]

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I don't think they'll have a choice in the matter.

Utter nonsense.

The below quote from Ross County is interesting.

“This is a ‘test’ event and not the beginning of our ‘Return to Supporters Plan’ and thus comes with much wider focus and direction from the Scottish Government and the governing bodies. This will include direction on access & egress to and from the stadium, seating allocation, protocols for the period of time spent within the stadium and more”

If we get past the point where it is considered a test event I’m not sure that there will be any kind of restriction on where the ticket holder needs to live, unless there are wider travel restrictions which apply to everyone.

[Sir David Gray]

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Nonsense?

Yes limiting the numbers to people who live within a certain distance from the stadium.

You're either allowed to travel more than 5 miles for leisure purposes or you're not.

You're talking about 300 people attending at the moment, where's the problem in allowing people from further afield (other season ticket holders) to travel to the game and sit in a 20,000 seater stadium with 299 other people?

You're not talking about thousands of people coming into Edinburgh on trains and buses which may cause problems with crowds gathering on public transport.

It's a test event - it should be getting used to test the full event, which for me includes the before, during and after processes and that includes replicating (albeit on a much smaller scale) how people normally travel to and from the stadium.

[Robbo6-2]

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Yes limiting the numbers to people who live within a certain distance from the stadium.

You're either allowed to travel more than 5 miles for leisure purposes or you're not.

You're talking about 300 people attending at the moment, where's the problem in allowing people from further afield (other season ticket holders) to travel to the game and sit in a 20,000 seater stadium with 299 other people?

You're not talking about thousands of people coming into Edinburgh on trains and buses which may cause problems with crowds gathering on public transport.

It's a test event - it should be getting used to test the full event, which for me includes the before, during and after processes and that includes replicating (albeit on a much smaller scale) how people normally travel to and from the stadium.

100% agree

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Yes limiting the numbers to people who live within a certain distance from the stadium.

You're either allowed to travel more than 5 miles for leisure purposes or you're not.

You're talking about 300 people attending at the moment, where's the problem in allowing people from further afield (other season ticket holders) to travel to the game and sit in a 20,000 seater stadium with 299 other people?

You're not talking about thousands of people coming into Edinburgh on trains and buses which may cause problems with crowds gathering on public transport.

It's a test event - it should be getting used to test the full event, which for me includes the before, during and after processes and that includes replicating (albeit on a much smaller scale) how people normally travel to and from the stadium.

I don't think you are grasping what test event means. Think of it like a drugs trial, say like a vaccine.

1. You select a small number of people to 'test' the initial batch. You know their history [=300 known people]
2. You run the test and you review the results [= you get someone in your trial coming down with Covid in 14 days you test and protect rest]
3. Evaluate the results
4. Apply lessons on a larger population sample and re-run as per 2. above
5. Repeat stage 3
6. Launch pre-release batch to a larger but still restricted population and model expected results against a risk assessment
7. Re-evaluate outcomes against modelling.
8. Launch approved batch.

With a drug that can take years, with football crowds the timescales align to Covid reviews so expect each step to take 3 weeks and only to progress is gate criteria are met.

[Sir David Gray]

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I don't think you are grasping what test event means. Think of it like a drugs trial, say like a vaccine.

1. You select a small number of people to 'test' the initial batch. You know their history [=300 known people]
2. You run the test and you review the results [= you get someone in your trial coming down with Covid in 14 days you test and protect rest]
3. Evaluate the results
4. Apply lessons on a larger population sample and re-run as per 2. above
5. Repeat stage 3
6. Launch pre-release batch to a larger but still restricted population and model expected results against a risk assessment
7. Re-evaluate outcomes against modelling.
8. Launch approved batch.

With a drug that can take years, with football crowds the timescales align to Covid reviews so expect each step to take 3 weeks and only to progress is gate criteria are met.

That still doesn't explain why people from outside the stadium's local area can't attend.

[marinello59]

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Would prefer it if we stick to Edinburgh and the surrounding area.

Not so good for the club when the refund requests start to go in.

[Andy74]

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Not so good for the club when the refund requests start to go in.

I maybe wasn’t clear enough that I meant we shouldn’t be letting only fans from the Aberdeen area in.

[marinello59]

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I maybe wasn’t clear enough that I meant we shouldn’t be letting only fans from the Aberdeen area in.

My very own whoosh moment then. Thankfully nobody will have noticed.

[danhibees1875]

https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/s...106524160?s=08

Some reasonable and expected measures in there - although I'm not sure why a mask is required for the full game if social distancing is in place and you can't talk to anyone or sing etc.

[green&left]

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https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/s...106524160?s=08

Some reasonable and expected measures in there - although I'm not sure why a mask is required for the full game if social distancing is in place and you can't talk to anyone or sing etc.

Reading that, take it its safe to say there will be no fans or a couple of thousand max at Hampden in 6-7 weeks time for the semi final?

Can see next to none of that being adhered to for a semi final at Hampden against them.

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Good luck stopping people shouting at the clowns we have as referees

[Keith_M]

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https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/s...106524160?s=08

Some reasonable and expected measures in there - although I'm not sure why a mask is required for the full game if social distancing is in place and you can't talk to anyone or sing etc.

It has nothing to do with health...

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https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/s...106524160?s=08

Some reasonable and expected measures in there - although I'm not sure why a mask is required for the full game if social distancing is in place and you can't talk to anyone or sing etc.

I keep forgetting that Banderson blocked me for talking sense and it cheers me up everytime I’m reminded 😂

[H18 SFR]

I stay in Ayr, I can get in my car and drive to Easter Road without stopping or interacting with anyone. Someone that stays at Northfield can get in their car and drive to Easter Road without stopping or interacting with anyone.

Why should the person who stays locally be given priority over someone who doesn't? Is there some evidence backed reason contributing to this as a rule as per the BBC article?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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That still doesn't explain why people from outside the stadium's local area can't attend.

It does. It is a controlled population. If there is an outbreak it is contained with in the community from which they are drawn and can be managed. Stop being obtuse and just accept there are people who know what they are doing who dont get their scientific advice from Shug from Shettleston and have a wider view than the narrow focus of a football supporter who is going cold turkey

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https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/s...106524160?s=08

Some reasonable and expected measures in there - although I'm not sure why a mask is required for the full game if social distancing is in place and you can't talk to anyone or sing etc.

The games a bogey now

[Moulin Yarns]

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It does. It is a controlled population. If there is an outbreak it is contained with in the community from which they are drwan and cab be managed. Stop being obtuse and just accept there are people who know what they are doing who dont get their scientific advice from Shug from Shettlestob and have a wider view than the narrow focus of a football supporter who is going cold turkey

The next question will be how diverse the 300 will be? will there be women, children, LGBTQ+ and registered disabled at the game. If not it will not truly test the systems in place.










Totally tongue in cheek.

[Sir David Gray]

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It does. It is a controlled population. If there is an outbreak it is contained with in the community from which they are drwan and cab be managed. Stop being obtuse and just accept there are people who know what they are doing who dont get their scientific advice from Shug from Shettlestob and have a wider view than the narrow focus of a football supporter who is going cold turkey

I'm sorry but it doesn't and despite your personal digs, which I'll rise above, it still doesn't explain why going to a football match is any different to any other activity.

Going by the measures that are going to be in place this weekend, there's more chance of catching Covid-19 in the street than there is of catching it at the football.

People are allowed to go shopping or dining in Edinburgh this weekend regardless of where they are in the country. The social distancing inside a shop or restaurant will be nothing like it will be inside the football grounds this weekend. What if there's an outbreak in the shop or restaurant? The people affected in a restaurant should be contactable and told to isolate, although not sure about a shop.

The same would happen if there was an outbreak from the game although considering it's outside and people will be a considerable distance from others, I'd say it's much safer than an indoor environment like a shop or restaurant.

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I stay in Ayr, I can get in my car and drive to Easter Road without stopping or interacting with anyone. Someone that stays at Northfield can get in their car and drive to Easter Road without stopping or interacting with anyone.

Why should the person who stays locally be given priority over someone who doesn't? Is there some evidence backed reason contributing to this as a rule as per the BBC article?

Everyone will get a chance to go to a game at some stage. If you get in 1st time, means you might not get back into Easter Rd, for another number of home games

[H18 SFR]

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Everyone will get a chance to go to a game at some stage. If you get in 1st time, means you might not get back into Easter Rd, for another number of home games

The article says the guidance is 'locals' only!

[Keith_M]

I've got a funny feeling I'm going to be watching my local team, Queens Park, before I attend a Hibs game this season.

[marinello59]

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It does. It is a controlled population. If there is an outbreak it is contained with in the community from which they are drawn and can be managed. Stop being obtuse and just accept there are people who know what they are doing who dont get their scientific advice from Shug from Shettleston and have a wider view than the narrow focus of a football supporter who is going cold turkey

If the Scottish Government really believed that outbreaks should be contained locally Glaswegians would be facing the same travel restrictions as Aberdeen did wouldn’t they?