What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[18Craig75]

Will this mean that hospitality could open, albeit at reduced numbers? Big spaces and easily to socially distanced.

Could be a nice money maker for the club, I’d definitely upgrade the season ticket to hospitality with my group at least once!

[Steven79]

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Had heard that its doubtful that concessions will get in as the over 65's are more at risk and kids are asymptomatic. No doubt that will get some peoples backs right up.

You can't ban someone who paid their money because of their age.

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[hibee_girl]

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Had heard that its doubtful that concessions will get in as the over 65's are more at risk and kids are asymptomatic. No doubt that will get some peoples backs right up.

I doubt that’s true considering both age groups are free to do things now (within the same restrictions as us all)

My Grandad would massively kick off if he wasn’t allowed in because of his age

[The dalmeny]

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I doubt that’s true considering both age groups are free to do things now (within the same restrictions as us all)

My Grandad would massively kick off if he wasn’t allowed in because of his age

and so he should, he’s old enough to decide if it’s safe to go

[Keith_M]

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If the club were making a loss on games to allow a few thousand fans in then it’s got to be a no. Ballot like most of you have said is fair enough I suppose.

Hibs have sold 11,000 tickets.

Allowing some of them to attend games they've actually paid for can't be described as 'making a loss'

[Heisenberg]

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Will this mean that hospitality could open, albeit at reduced numbers? Big spaces and easily to socially distanced.

Could be a nice money maker for the club, I’d definitely upgrade the season ticket to hospitality with my group at least once!

I would imagine hospitality ST holders will be one of the first groups back. They’ve been back in the suites to watch away games a couple of times now.

[lord bunberry]

What’s the point of the away teams not using the away dressing room? They don’t social distance after they come out of the changing room.

[hibee_girl]

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and so he should, he’s old enough to decide if it’s safe to go

[Sir David Gray]

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What’s the point of the away teams not using the away dressing room? They don’t social distance after they come out of the changing room.

I've made similar points in the past, it just strikes me as the football world wanting to do something to make a statement. It makes zero sense, clinical or otherwise.

Similar to the Chelsea players being unable to pick up their runners up medals after the FA Cup final due to "Covid protocols". Even although for 90 minutes they had been up close and personal with the Arsenal players and they had all been cuddling each other at full time.

It's all a nonsense.

[Sir David Gray]

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Had heard that its doubtful that concessions will get in as the over 65's are more at risk and kids are asymptomatic. No doubt that will get some peoples backs right up.

That would be ridiculous, no way that's true for over 65s.

[lord bunberry]

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I've made similar points in the past, it just strikes me as the football world wanting to do something to make a statement. It makes zero sense, clinical or otherwise.

Similar to the Chelsea players being unable to pick up their runners up medals after the FA Cup final due to "Covid protocols". Even although for 90 minutes they had been up close and personal with the Arsenal players and they had all been cuddling each other at full time.

It's all a nonsense.

I agree, I can’t see any good reason for it, it’s the same with substitutes sitting with face masks on.

[Carheenlea]

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If singing is banned it's not going to be a decision made by Hibs.

Quite looking forward to hearing what some of our terrace chanting will sound like through masks. Won’t be spine-tingling I suspect.

[Jones28]

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So where do you start? Clubs may need to have test events to show they can handle any restrictions.

I think the Knockhill decision as laid out here is poor, they’re depriving 200 folk attending and the chance to prep for a greater number at future events too under the ‘can’t find a fair way to choose the 200. I wonder if there’s a financial aspect as you’ve mentioned above.

fans need to screw the nut too. I get an underlying feeling there’s an element of ‘if I can’t go no one else should’ (a bit of this from Warriors fans for next Friday). If Folk can get in now great,fill your boots and enjoy, I’ll get my turn when it’s my time.

the only thing I would say is, with 4 times the infection last week, I don’t want a thousand fans coming from Glasgow to Edinburgh next week.

I think you wait until you have a viable vaccine. In the grand scheme of things football is not important and if it puts public health at risk then it should be an absolute no go.

For the season ticket holders I’m sure the club could find a way to thank them in the future, maybe by selling them heavily discounted ST’s in the future.

Just because we theoretically could have fans back doesn’t mean we should. Football doesn’t bring out people’s best behaviour and you add alcohol in to the mix it just isn’t worth the risk.

[Jones28]

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It’s going to cost them money to get people in. But people have have also spent a lot of money to attend games at Easter Road. The club have a responsibility to make that happen, for however many people are allowed to attend, as soon as they can.

Why? If it’s putting peoples health at risk then IMO nothing should go before that. You can take all the precautions you like but health has to come first and football should be one of things at the bottom of the pile.

It’s a bit of a contradiction, having “thank you NHS” on the tops while putting peoples health at risk.

[Jones28]

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The club will automatically make a loss on the games because only season ticket holders will be able to attend, so there will be no matchday income to offset against the costs of holding the game eg stewarding.

It wouldn't surprise me if the kiosks are kept closed to avoid queues in the concourses and stewards would control how many people could access the toilets at any one time. Ideally they'd want to control the rush for the exits at full time but not sure that could be done.

I'd think allowing half the season ticket holders to attend each game would be viable. The easiest way would be to assign everyone to either Group 1 or Group 2, with members of the same network in the same group, and then assign a seat to each person/group that maintains distancing which would mean not getting your own seat.

Group 1 would get half the fixtures plus Celtc and Group 2 would get the other half plus Sevco.

This would allow 5,500 fans at each game, which would mean about 5000 actually in attendance if the usual 10% estimate of season tickets can't attend. That could be higher as some of our more vulnerable fans may decide not to risk it.

If the club are going to take a hit financially on having 5000 fans in then what’s the point?

If the club were to offer heavily discounted season tickets next season for example, or even freebies to those who bought this season then why not have no fans this season?

[Jones28]

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Hibs have sold 11,000 tickets.

Allowing some of them to attend games they've actually paid for can't be described as 'making a loss'

Well let’s rephrase it and say that for matches the club has no actual money coming through the door and has had to burn through season ticket income at a much faster rate than normal due to no walk up tickets being sold, is that better?

[B.H.F.C]

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Why? If it’s putting peoples health at risk then IMO nothing should go before that. You can take all the precautions you like but health has to come first and football should be one of things at the bottom of the pile.

It’s a bit of a contradiction, having “thank you NHS” on the tops while putting peoples health at risk.

Nobody is suggesting we just let everybody pile in and get on with it. Find a way to manage the risk, the same as every other industry that is non essential but letting customers in.

It’s pretty clear the virus isn’t going away. Do we just accept we can’t do anything or get on with finding ways to do things a bit differently? And safely? I know which I’d rather do.

[B.H.F.C]

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If the club are going to take a hit financially on having 5000 fans in then what’s the point?

If the club were to offer heavily discounted season tickets next season for example, or even freebies to those who bought this season then why not have no fans this season?

How do you then cover your costs next year doing that?

[Jones28]

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How do you then cover your costs next year doing that?

You have walk up fans once you have a viable vaccine.

[Jones28]

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Nobody is suggesting we just let everybody pile in and get on with it. Find a way to manage the risk, the same as every other industry that is non essential but letting customers in.

It’s pretty clear the virus isn’t going away. Do we just accept we can’t do anything or get on with finding ways to do things a bit differently? And safely? I know which I’d rather do.

Fair enough, each to their own. I don’t agree, and think that until a vaccine is found we should not be attending mass gatherings - distancing in place or not.

[B.H.F.C]

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You have walk up fans once you have a viable vaccine.

Less all (or a lot of) your season ticket revenue. Need an awful lot of walk ups to cover that.

[The dalmeny]

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I think you wait until you have a viable vaccine. In the grand scheme of things football is not important and if it puts public health at risk then it should be an absolute no go.

For the season ticket holders I’m sure the club could find a way to thank them in the future, maybe by selling them heavily discounted ST’s in the future.

Just because we theoretically could have fans back doesn’t mean we should. Football doesn’t bring out people’s best behaviour and you add alcohol in to the mix it just isn’t worth the risk.

if you wait for a vaccine it will probably be a long wait. We perhaps have different views on this and I’m cool with that. I’m much more for personal responsibility. If the club put forward measures I’m happy with then I’ll go, if not I won’t. I’m an overweight 50+ Apos man so to an extent I’m in a higher risk group but I’m able to make an informed decision as to the things I’m happy with and those I’m not. I’m off to the pub tonight and booked a table so I can watch the rugby/football. If I get there and I’m not comfortable I’ll walk away. I don’t need someone to tell me to stay or go.

[Jones28]

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Less all (or a lot of) your season ticket revenue. Need an awful lot of walk ups to cover that.

Folk would be gagging to go to a game, myself included. You’re going to make a loss either way, it health has to come first.

I don’t particularly want the country back in lockdown because folk want to go to football matches.

[Gatecrasher]

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EFL agree deal with Sky Sports allowing clubs in all three divisions to stream every match next season until stadiums at least 50 per cent full. Clubs to keep the revenue with Sky waiving compensation rights for loss of exclusivity. https://t.co/KOmEu0MB6v

I hope thats not the agreement we have, can you imagine not being able to see your team because you havent been selected to be in the 50% then cant watch it on stream.

[B.H.F.C]

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Fair enough, each to their own. I don’t agree, and think that until a vaccine is found we should not be attending mass gatherings - distancing in place or not.

As you say, each to their own and I don’t have a problem with that.

There will be others in the same boat and attendance isn’t compulsory after all. I posted earlier that, IMO, the first thing the club needs to do is find out who actually wants to attend. People can make their own decisions on whether they want to go or not but, if it is deemed safe to have fans in, the club have a responsibility to get as many people in that want to go, as they can. Those that don’t want to go, don’t have to.

[Jones28]

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if you wait for a vaccine it will probably be a long wait. We perhaps have different views on this and I’m cool with that. I’m much more for personal responsibility. If the club put forward measures I’m happy with then I’ll go, if not I won’t. I’m an overweight 50+ Apos man so to an extent I’m in a higher risk group but I’m able to make an informed decision as to the things I’m happy with and those I’m not. I’m off to the pub tonight and booked a table so I can watch the rugby/football. If I get there and I’m not comfortable I’ll walk away. I don’t need someone to tell me to stay or go.

All out faith in personal responsibility gets you the kind of scenes we’ve seen on hot days on the south coast. You feel comfortable to make decisions for yourself which is fine, but it’s other people. It’s the % of the population who don’t care, who shouldn’t have the responsibility that will cause us problems in the future.

[The dalmeny]

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All out faith in personal responsibility gets you the kind of scenes we’ve seen on hot days on the south coast. You feel comfortable to make decisions for yourself which is fine, but it’s other people. It’s the % of the population who don’t care, who shouldn’t have the responsibility that will cause us problems in the future.

indeed, for all these events, the NRS have gone from weekly to monthly reporting because the number of deaths is so low and hospital cases have stayed pretty level, I have two kids at secondary am I supposed to stop them going to school because it’s a mass gathering?

[The dalmeny]

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As you say, each to their own and I don’t have a problem with that.

There will be others in the same boat and attendance isn’t compulsory after all. I posted earlier that, IMO, the first thing the club needs to do is find out who actually wants to attend. People can make their own decisions on whether they want to go or not but, if it is deemed safe to have fans in, the club have a responsibility to get as many people in that want to go, as they can. Those that don’t want to go, don’t have to.

we are on a much more similar wavelength

[Jones28]

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indeed, for all these events, the NRS have gone from weekly to monthly reporting because the number of deaths is so low and hospital cases have stayed pretty level, I have two kids at secondary am I supposed to stop them going to school because it’s a mass gathering?

Nah, like you say it’s personal responsibility so each the their own. I don’t agree but such is life.

[The dalmeny]

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Nah, like you say it’s personal responsibility so each the their own. I don’t agree but such is life.

and I’m ok with that