The generic Hearts thread

[hibstag]

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Shut it, Budgie.

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The options are to cease and desist budgie

[PatHead]

It must be terrible being a supporter of a lower league club like Alloa, Arbroath or Hearts? Such a long close season.

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Aperpleptic

[Marco G]

My guess is that this is linked to the SPFL statement due today, about sanctions for breaking the rules re Covid. SPFL will want to know that lower league teams like Hearts can comply with the new rules before starting or in their case resuming training. SPFL already have inspected all the Premier league grounds and training facilities.

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[Col2]

Given what happened in the past - all the emotion and hyperbole yet zero success - something like this really does press the nuclear bottom for many of them.

They are missing what looks like about 6 days of training, taking account of likely days off. They are 7-8 weeks away from the start of the lower leagues and 10 weeks away from the Scottish cup game.

If this was Hibs, we would be angry but we would be working with SPFL/SFA to get some dispensation. Instead Budge appeals to the crazies with constantly being incensed 🙄🤡

[we are hibs]

I dont get the big deal. But i suppose they need something to roar and greet about now they've been laughed out the league, court and arbitration.

[Col2]

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It must be terrible being a supporter of a lower league club like Alloa, Arbroath or Hearts? Such a long close season.

And while Hearts fans were originally loving the fact that the top league was at risk of a red card, one or two of them pointed out that the ripple effect is staying in the championship until 2022 (minimum).....

[Bostonhibby]

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Surely Hearts have run out of adjectives and are now officially the angriest football club in the world?

Yep, they're moving onto superlatives, that'll teach the SFA, SPFL, the arbitration panel, Hibs, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Raith, Cove, uncle Tom Cobleigh etc.

Just as soon as they work out if a superlative is bigger than an adjective the bombardment will commence.

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[CropleyWasGod]

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My guess is that this is linked to the SPFL statement due today, about sanctions for breaking the rules re Covid. SPFL will want to know that lower league teams like Hearts can comply with the new rules before starting or in their case resuming training. SPFL already have inspected all the Premier league grounds and training facilities.

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Maybe the answer here is to create a bubble, whereby the current Premiership teams can only mix with each other.

For the sake of caution, keep that in place until, say, 2025.

[Keith_M]

I hate to take Hearts side in this but it's a stupid decision.

They must have been given permission to start training, with whatever precautions are required, and they haven't breached any guidelines that we know off.

Nothing has changed as far as Hearts are concerned and it just seems like another over-reaction on the part of the SG (or apparently the SFA, until somebody else corrects me again ;-) )

[Bostonhibby]

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“Our fans are naturally incensed by this action, especially given what has transpired over recent months. For the avoidance of doubt, everyone at the Club is equally incensed. We are currently considering our options.“




Neil Doncaster and Rod Petrie must be crying with laughter at their latest outburst. I know I am.

Heard from our family yam yesterday, he doesn't meet the "incensed" standard but did say he's officially fed up of the "whole thing" and wasn't too complimentary about their recent signings.

I said if it makes him feel any better he could pretend the Livi 3rd choice keeper is actually the boy from Ross county at least until the season starts.

They'll need to find ways to move fans like him from thinking about reality to just focusing on being incensed, otherwise they might start questioning what they've got for all that money to date.

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[Tug Wilson]

On Twitter Stow AFC are raging because all of their training plans have now been thrown in to disarray.

Stow AFC!

Maybe Hearts should take joint action with them against the SFA.

[Bostonhibby]

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Aperpleptic

Jeez, poor Brux, the evolutionary scale in reverse, went to bed a Duncan and woke up as a chimp.

This has to be down to the SPFL.

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[CentreLine]

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I hate to take Hearts side in this but it's a stupid decision.

They must have been given permission to start training, with whatever precautions are required, and they haven't breached any guidelines that we know off.

Nothing has changed as far as Hearts are concerned and it just seems like another over-reaction on the part of the SG.

Made clear on sportsound last night that this is not a SG decision. Scottish football was asked by the SG to provide a structure and evidence they can continue to compete safely and the measures announced were the SFA/SPFL response. All of these measures are football decisions.

[Mon_the_cabbage]

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On Twitter Stow AFC are raging because all of their training plans have now been thrown in to disarray.

Stow AFC!

Maybe Hearts should take joint action with them against the SFA.

The A7 Alliance!

I like it!

[Keith_M]

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Made clear on sportsound last night that this is not a SG decision. Scottish football was asked by the SG to provide a structure and evidence they can continue to compete safely and the measures announced were the SFA/SPFL response. All of these measures are football decisions.

Thanks.

In which case it's a stupid decision by the SFA/SPFL.

[GonzoReturns]

The part that is conveniently missed (unless I misheard) is the follow up comment from Jason Leitch when he said he’s the one who has to look the FM in the eye and say Scottish football is safe. And this decision does help that.

[CentreLine]

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Thanks.

In which case it's a stupid decision by the SFA/SPFL.

Could be but, as posted below, it does strengthen Jason Lietch’s hand when arguing for the safe continuation of top flight football. I think the authorities have been put in a very difficult position be players’ stupidity and had to be seen to be being firm in their response. They have suspended return to training for football below the top flight in order to conduct an inspection of every facility and satisfy themselves that lowers league clubs can meet the standards required. If they can do that in ten days that’s some going but that much does make sense on safety grounds

[BS44]

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I hate to take Hearts side in this but it's a stupid decision.

They must have been given permission to start training, with whatever precautions are required, and they haven't breached any guidelines that we know off.

Nothing has changed as far as Hearts are concerned and it just seems like another over-reaction on the part of the SG.

This is a SFA sanction and has nothing to do with Government.

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm sure this was just a ploy so that Tom English had something to talk about for the coming weeks.

[Hibi]

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The A7 Alliance!

I like it!

In my opinion there is no way that Stow would have any alliance with that club. Always been a well run ethical club who prefer to play there football on the grass.

[BS44]

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In my opinion there is no way that Stow would have any alliance with that club. Always been a well run ethical club who prefer to play there football on the grass.

Are any of the Smiths involved?

[jacomo]

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Aperpleptic

Prayers for whoever has the misfortune to live with Brux.

[Alan62]

The whole point here is that whether Hearts like it or not, the goalposts have been moved. The lower leagues were granted a dispensation to return to training based on a risk assessment that has been proven to be inadequate. The JRG is in the process of updating protocols and it's actually impossible to know if the lower league clubs can meet the new standards. That includes Hearts.

Since March, Hearts have failed to recognise that the authorities (government and football) have more pressing priorities than the immediate needs of Edinburgh's bigliest club and that they have a responsibility to society to ensure that football operations don't have an impact on public health.

[Spike Mandela]

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Thanks.

In which case it's a stupid decision by the SFA/SPFL.

It’s quite funny though, eh?

[Since452]

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Given what happened in the past - all the emotion and hyperbole yet zero success - something like this really does press the nuclear bottom for many of them.

They are missing what looks like about 6 days of training, taking account of likely days off. They are 7-8 weeks away from the start of the lower leagues and 10 weeks away from the Scottish cup game.

If this was Hibs, we would be angry but we would be working with SPFL/SFA to get some dispensation. Instead Budge appeals to the crazies with constantly being incensed 🙄🤡

Typical bitter wee team hobo response. **** the SPFL, **** the national team, **** Pertie, Lawwell and rat Doncaster. There is a clear anti Hearts, anti protestant agenda here it's clear for all to see. Corrupt to the core. They'll never see my maroon pound again. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall never surrender. Robbie's got us playing Hearts are back 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪 5-1 1902 HHGH

[PatHead]

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Could be but, as posted below, it does strengthen Jason Lietch’s hand when arguing for the safe continuation of top flight football. I think the authorities have been put in a very difficult position be players’ stupidity and had to be seen to be being firm in their response. They have suspended return to training for football below the top flight in order to conduct an inspection of every facility and satisfy themselves that lowers league clubs can meet the standards required. If they can do that in ten days that’s some going but that much does make sense on safety grounds

I agree, Jason Leith is acting in the best interests of all of Scottish football. Far better to stop training now and check that they meet the criteria. As Hearts only rent their facilities extra checks may be required to ensure no cross contamination.

It would also be unfair on all of the other lower league clubs that Hearts could train and they can't. A few days should not make a difference. Remember the Hearts mantra about being fair to everyone and no one disadvantaged.

I'm sure once they have had a chance to reflect overnight they will no longer be enraged.

Of course, if they had beaten St Mirren then they would not be a lower league club like Alloa and Arbroath. This problem would not exist.

[Brightside]

Hull are currently training at the Oriam. Thats brilliant. Hibs should book it out for the day.

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This is excellent! tweeted by Hearts official twitter page

[Hibi]

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Are any of the Smiths involved?

Not directly although their business Agenor do some sponsorship. Good Hibs men 🇳🇬