(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[hibsbollah]

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What would you do if you had her job?

What point are you trying to make? Be direct.

[CropleyWasGod]

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What would you do if you had her job?

I wouldn't be making policy on the basis of pissing off my opponents.

[makaveli1875]

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What point are you trying to make? Be direct.

It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

[Kato]

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It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

What would you do if you had her job?

[makaveli1875]

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What would you do if you had her job?

Id do the same as her and try and put a stop to it

[hibsbollah]

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It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

What do you think about her weird comments to her fellow MPs?

[makaveli1875]

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What do you think about her weird comments to her fellow MPs?

I havnt seen them

[hibsbollah]

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I havnt seen them

The link is a few posts ago.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

Are you referring to this lunatic?

[hibsbollah]

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Are you referring to this lunatic?

The best bit there was when the anchor says ‘We laugh at this NOW, but...’
This is the future of the Republican Party unless the old WASPy establishment gets off its ass and does something about it.

[Keith_M]

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'

[Hibernia&Alba]

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WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'

The traditional American establishment. Kennedy was the sole Catholic president, and, sadly, many Southern Democrats voted against him because of his religion. Al Smith, a Catholic, ran against Herbert Hoover in 1928 and was subjected to a vicious sectarian campaign, accused of his loyalty being to Rome rather than Washington. After his defeat he said to the press, "I guess this country isn't ready for a Catholic in the White House".

[hibsbollah]

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WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'

Its not a pejorative description The Republican Party was born out of that genuinely conservative Protestantism brought by European immigrants to the industrial NE of the USA. In UK terms you’d call it One Nation Conservatism. It’s also a big part of the schism between the North and South that led to the civil war, super distrustful of the evangelical South. Just about all your early presidents were from that tradition.

[grunt]

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Id do the same as her and try and put a stop to it

Why do you want to put a stop to it?

(I take it that the "it" we're talking about is the refugees attempting to get into the UK by risking their lives on small dinghies in the English Channel).

Why don't you want refugees to be allowed to enter the UK?

[Future17]

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And Patel proving it, right on cue ...

She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

[Hibrandenburg]

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She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

Your granny was a sharp one and is bang on the money.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

Your granny was very polite. Mine would have said "she's a right f****** Tory b*****d

Every edition of Question Time with Robin Day, she would shout "Tory *******" at the telly.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Hibernia&Alba]

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The best bit there was when the anchor says ‘We laugh at this NOW, but...’
This is the future of the Republican Party unless the old WASPy establishment gets off its ass and does something about it.

It's born of desperation. In the past forty years, since Reagan was elected, millions of Americans have been dispossessed and are angry. They are drowning in debt, yet they voted for their own demise. Sadly, their culture is dominated by the lowest common denominator: don't analyse the systemic failings, just lash out at the weakest, so deflecting from real analysis. It's rather like The Sun and Daily Mail here telling us that social problems are totally disconnected from the policy causes. Lash out and condemn, don't analyse. There are plenty of idiots who accept the narrative: treat the symptom, not the cause; thus they continue to dig their own grave.

[Saturday Boy]

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It's born of desperation. In the past forty years, since Reagan was elected, millions of Americans have been dispossessed and are angry. They are drowning in debt, yet they voted for their own demise. Sadly, their culture is dominated by the lowest common denominator: don't analyse the systemic failings, just lash out at the weakest, so deflecting from real analysis. It's rather like The Sun and Daily Mail here telling us that social problems are totally disconnected from the policy causes. Lash out and condemn, don't analyse. There are plenty of idiots who accept the narrative: treat the symptom, not the cause; thus they continue to dig their own grave.

I mentioned earlier in the thread, the blue collar paradox. Voting for the very people who moved their jobs to Mexico and the Far East.

I just don’t know how to break that cycle.

[Hibrandenburg]

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It's born of desperation. In the past forty years, since Reagan was elected, millions of Americans have been dispossessed and are angry. They are drowning in debt, yet they voted for their own demise. Sadly, their culture is dominated by the lowest common denominator: don't analyse the systemic failings, just lash out at the weakest, so deflecting from real analysis. It's rather like The Sun and Daily Mail here telling us that social problems are totally disconnected from the policy causes. Lash out and condemn, don't analyse. There are plenty of idiots who accept the narrative: treat the symptom, not the cause; thus they continue to dig their own grave.

Delete Reagan and paste Thatcher and you have the UK.

[hibsbollah]

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Delete Reagan and paste Thatcher and you have the UK.

More so, if anything.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Delete Reagan and paste Thatcher and you have the UK.

I'm not so sure. America doesn't have the class distinctions and tradition of democratic socialism that we have. Of course Thatcher also played the divide and rule game to the hilt, but she did face massive (though ultimately unsuccessful) resistance in many parts of the UK. Central Scotland, Northern England and South Wales fought Thatcherism tooth and nail. As a wee boy I remember the collections for the miners in 1984-85 and the feeling of solidarity against an alien government. You were either for her or against her; there was no compromise. America doesn't seem to have that tradition; not since the organised left was destroyed in the 1920s. Reagan didn't face the same opposition as Thatcher. I still hate her and her philosophy, as i remember the hardship well, though it did bring out the best in people in this part of the world.

[Kato]

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Id do the same as her and try and put a stop to it

Try to put a stop to the left not being in meltdown?

She doesn't care if there are asylum seekers in the country or not. It has no bearing on her whatsoever. If she does invoke some kind of policy or new practice it'll be a rotten attempt at looking tough against foreign people with complicated forms and some coke addict numbos getting to wear a uniform for a private security firm.

A huge xenophobic distraction for bigots to salivate over.

Its weird, at this moment in history in quite a few countries, that the ultra rich can persuade the poor that those with nothing are the cause of their problems. Absolute mugs.

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[makaveli1875]

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Why do you want to put a stop to it?

(I take it that the "it" we're talking about is the refugees attempting to get into the UK by risking their lives on small dinghies in the English Channel).

Why don't you want refugees to be allowed to enter the UK?

They aren't refugees they're coming from France, it's perfectly safe there. There's no reason the UK couldn't offer asylum to some of them but in an orderly fashion.

[Keith_M]

I see he's now latching on to the 'birther' theories again, this time with Harris.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...ice-president/


Presumably he's appealing to the racist side of some voters who can't accept a mixed race candidate.

[Moulin Yarns]

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They aren't refugees they're coming from France, it's perfectly safe there. There's no reason the UK couldn't offer asylum to some of them but in an orderly fashion.

WOW!!!!

They are refugees from war, famine and pestilence, passing through France in the mistaken belief that Britain is the land of milk and honey. Had the Tories not pushed through Brexit, France would actually be helping to stop them crossing the Channel, now they don't need to.

[lapsedhibee]

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Had the Tories not pushed through Brexit, France would actually be helping to stop them crossing the Channel, now they don't need to.

People knew what they were voting for, to Give Up Control.

[grunt]

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They aren't refugees they're coming from France, it's perfectly safe there. There's no reason the UK couldn't offer asylum to some of them but in an orderly fashion.

Why don't you want the refugees to come to the UK?

[Bristolhibby]

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They aren't refugees they're coming from France, it's perfectly safe there. There's no reason the UK couldn't offer asylum to some of them but in an orderly fashion.

Why should France have to look after them and we don’t?

And don’t just say the English Channel.

The U.K. quite frankly dodges it’s obligations to house refugees. Countries like the Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey (who are least placed to deal with them, bear the brunt).

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