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[Ozyhibby]

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We are now at 21 weeks without school. It can’t continue any longer. We are going to have to learn to live with this virus.


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[Billy Whizz]

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I’ve been in a couple of pubs now and they are pretty busy. It’s annoying because kids still are not allowed to play football. There appears to be no consistency on what opens.


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Really can’t understand why you can sit round a table in a pub, but you can’t get 1,000 into ER yesterday

[Callum_62]

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We are now at 21 weeks without school. It can’t continue any longer. We are going to have to learn to live with this virus.


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If its that route and they studies are correct the only solution is blended learning

Otherwise we are just throwing our hands up and going back to march

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[Ozyhibby]

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If its that route and they studies are correct the only solution is blended learning

Otherwise we are just throwing our hands up and going back to march

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Blended learning means no learning. The EIS refuse to do zoom classes for the kids. The kids need to go back to school.


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[easty]

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I’ve been in a couple of pubs now and they are pretty busy. It’s annoying because kids still are not allowed to play football. There appears to be no consistency on what opens.


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There’s little to no social distancing at some pubs. The only change seems to be you can’t pay with cash.

[marinello59]

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There’s little to no social distancing at some pubs. The only change seems to be you can’t pay with cash.

I’d make it compulsory to book a table and make each visit time limited. We are going to have to learn that going to the pub and getting hammered just isn’t on any more.

[Callum_62]

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Blended learning means no learning. The EIS refuse to do zoom classes for the kids. The kids need to go back to school.


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Even if the evidence suggests that's a terrible idea?

Each to there own I guess

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[Santa Cruz]

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If its that route and they studies are correct the only solution is blended learning

Otherwise we are just throwing our hands up and going back to march

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Couldn't agree more with this comment.

[Santa Cruz]

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Blended learning means no learning. The EIS refuse to do zoom classes for the kids. The kids need to go back to school.


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Yes they do, but it has to be safe. It's not going to be possible to social distance in a Secondary school.

[jonty]

Remote learning has been around for decades. Just because its not what the EIS are used to, doesn't make it a bad idea. They need to get with the times.
Businesses have been forced into remote working with plenty more people who are less capable of adapting to change.

[Pretty Boy]

Unless I'm reading it wrong the studies both still point out children are less likely to become infected but they are more infectious when they do. Is that really groundbreaking? It also points out it's relevant in areas where community transmission is moderate to high which, as it stands isn't the case in Scotland.

I'd be disappointed if we abandoned plans to get children back to school on the back of what I have read there and I'm doubtful it will happen.

[Callum_62]

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Unless I'm reading it wrong the studies both still point out children are less likely to become infected but they are more infectious when they do. Is that really groundbreaking? It also points out it's relevant in areas where community transmission is moderate to high which, as it stands isn't the case in Scotland.

I'd be disappointed if we abandoned plans to get children back to school on the back of what I have read there and I'm doubtful it will happen.

I'm pretty sure we won't abandon plans on the back of that 1 study (with the other to be peer reviewed)

Schooling though is a area that I think we may need to be sensible and more importantly flexible on

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[Pretty Boy]

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I'm pretty sure we won't abandon plans on the back of that 1 study (with the other to be peer reviewed)

Schooling though is a area that I think we may need to be sensible and more importantly flexible on

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We have to be flexible with everything.

However I also think we need to tame the culture of panic that seems to be evident. Every easing of lockdown and news story (BLM protests, people drinking in parks, pubs opening etc etc) has been met with prophecies of doom and thus far the fears have proven somewhat unfounded, certainly in Scotland.

The issue with such a culture is that when there is a reason to change or be fearful there will be a resistance to it because it will be dismissed as the 'same old scaremongering'.

[Santa Cruz]

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I'm pretty sure we won't abandon plans on the back of that 1 study (with the other to be peer reviewed)

Schooling though is a area that I think we may need to be sensible and more importantly flexible on

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I think everyone would agree that schools returning has to be a priority, but the scientific advise around older pupils states they transmit the virus. I have no idea why the SG would say Secondary schools should social distance where possible, but if not, they should still be at full capacity. This would not be acceptable in any other setting.

Even with current low prevalence, if 1 person is infected and they are interacting with possibly 100's of pupils across multiple subjects in a day, that affects vulnerable pupils, staff, families and the wider community.

They should have remained cautious and went with blended learning for at least one term to monitor the data imo. Blended learning is by no means perfect but far better than full time home schooling, and a far safer option.

[BroxburnHibee]

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I’d make it compulsory to book a table and make each visit time limited. We are going to have to learn that going to the pub and getting hammered just isn’t on any more.

I was under the impression that was the rule.

Having worked my first weekend since March in the cab its obvious the younger generation couldn't care less about social distancing.

People bunched together in queues outside bars, hugging, high fives - its as if the pandemic never happened.

Also the 2 or 3 hour limit means they're just getting even more pished!

When the numbers inevitably start rising, Pubs will be the first thing to close.

[Ozyhibby]

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I think everyone would agree that schools returning has to be a priority, but the scientific advise around older pupils states they transmit the virus. I have no idea why the SG would say Secondary schools should social distance where possible, but if not, they should still be at full capacity. This would not be acceptable in any other setting.

Even with current low prevalence, if 1 person is infected and they are interacting with possibly 100's of pupils across multiple subjects in a day, that affects vulnerable pupils, staff, families and the wider community.

They should have remained cautious and went with blended learning for at least one term to monitor the data imo. Blended learning is by no means perfect but far better than full time home schooling, and a far safer option.

It is not acceptable to withdraw education from our kids. Blended learning is not going to get a fifth year kid through their Highers this year. Are we just to shrug our shoulders?


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[Del Boy]

Was reading about Russia’s vaccination plan this morning. Doesn’t seem to be getting much headlines though, is that just because it’s Russia and we don’t trust them?? If this was, for example, Germany or Italy I’d imagine there would be major excitement at this news. Also sounds like US are confident about vaccine within next 6 months. We’ll see...

[Santa Cruz]

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It is not acceptable to withdraw education from our kids. Blended learning is not going to get a fifth year kid through their Highers this year. Are we just to shrug our shoulders?


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It's not ideal, but we're not living in ideal times right now. My teen is taking exams too. There are a lot of reports now about long term health implications for those with even a mild infection. My priority is my kids health and education being delivered in a safe setting, in that order.

[easty]

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I was under the impression that was the rule.

Having worked my first weekend since March in the cab its obvious the younger generation couldn't care less about social distancing.

People bunched together in queues outside bars, hugging, high fives - its as if the pandemic never happened.

Also the 2 or 3 hour limit means they're just getting even more pished!

When the numbers inevitably start rising, Pubs will be the first thing to close.

I was in the pub last night and it was packed, and most of the folk there were over 50.

This isn’t just a young people problem.

There was no time limit on how long you could be there.

[Callum_62]

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It's not ideal, but we're not living in ideal times right now. My teen is taking exams too. There are a lot of reports now about long term health implications for those with even a mild infection. My priority is my kids health and education being delivered in a safe setting, in that order.

Kids health
Extended family health
Other peoples health
Education

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[Sir David Gray]

Over 9500 cases in Mexico in the last 24 hours which is their largest daily increase so far.

[Since90+2]

I was in a pub in Leith yesterday and there was basically no social distancing at all. Only difference was you couldn't stand at the bar (but you could order). They even didn't insist on taking contact details as apparently track and track is completely optional.

[Santa Cruz]

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Kids health
Extended family health
Other peoples health
Education

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100% agree.

[Sir David Gray]

5 hospital deaths registered in England since yesterday.

[RyeSloan]

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Was reading about Russia’s vaccination plan this morning. Doesn’t seem to be getting much headlines though, is that just because it’s Russia and we don’t trust them?? If this was, for example, Germany or Italy I’d imagine there would be major excitement at this news. Also sounds like US are confident about vaccine within next 6 months. We’ll see...

Yeah I think it’s exactly because it’s Russia.

No one is sure if they even have a vaccine to vaccinate with in October.

Then there is the fact that there seems to be little or no detail on even if they do how they know it is safe.

So basically there seems little point in getting excited about something that may or may not exist and may or may not be safe and may or may not be effective...

The best bets currently seem to the Moderna vaccine in the US and the Astra Zeneca one in the UK. There is a chance one of them may be deemed safe this year...both I believe (defo the AZ one) are already being manufactured in anticipation.

Still a huge risk of failure though but wow the world will be celebrating big time if they can pull this off and get vaccinating safely in Q4 this year....

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update;

31 new cases since yesterday - % of positive cases above 1% for a while I think.
Increase of 5 in the confirmed cases in hospital
No change in the confirmed cases in intensive care
No deaths registered since yesterday

[Sir David Gray]

Breakdown of new cases by health board;

Grampian - 13
Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 8
Lothian - 5
Tayside - 2
Dumfries and Galloway - 1
Fife - 1
Lanarkshire - 1

[Santa Cruz]

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Breakdown of new cases by health board;

Grampian - 13
Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 8
Lothian - 5
Tayside - 2
Dumfries and Galloway - 1
Fife - 1
Lanarkshire - 1

Thanks, I find this breakdown very helpful.

[Billy Whizz]

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Breakdown of new cases by health board;

Grampian - 13
Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 8
Lothian - 5
Tayside - 2
Dumfries and Galloway - 1
Fife - 1
Lanarkshire - 1

Presume the Grampian one is from the pub in Aberdeen

[silverhibee]

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I was under the impression that was the rule.

Having worked my first weekend since March in the cab its obvious the younger generation couldn't care less about social distancing.

People bunched together in queues outside bars, hugging, high fives - its as if the pandemic never happened.

Also the 2 or 3 hour limit means they're just getting even more pished!

When the numbers inevitably start rising, Pubs will be the first thing to close.

Young drunk folk are a big problem right now but is closing pubs going to help things, most pubs are doing the best they can, names taken, hand sanitizer and cctv, close pubs and these folk will just have house parties or get drunk in parks and that brings its own problems.