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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baldmans Comb View Post
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    Not doing PPV on Saturday is absoutely nothing to do with protecting season tickets holders or trying to sell a few more that's for sure as you aren't going to persuade anyone to renew on the basis of one game.

    10,500 might stretch to 10,600 if you are lucky.

    Hibs just arent geared up for to 4,000 walk up fans streaming in and a couple of thousand Killie fans given they only just got the passwords out the door tonight for season ticket holders which was just about the last possible day they could have got away with it.

    No big deal other than losing out on easy peasy money of lets just say £50,000 at the lower estimate of 2,500 fans at £20 a pop but you have to be proactive and right on top of your game to get all the ducks in place but history tells you that's not Hibs strong point when it comes to anything to do with technology.
    Exactly what did Hibs not do in time? You appear to know.


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    I wonder if you can watch away games via hibs tv and pay for the access or have to create a new account for each club? i guess that it will be the latter as the first option would be too sensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    I wonder if you can watch away games via hibs tv and pay for the access or have to create a new account for each club? i guess that it will be the latter as the first option would be too sensible.
    Yes you need give your details to and pay the home club directly before selecting the option to watch as an away fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baldmans Comb View Post
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    Not doing PPV on Saturday is absoutely nothing to do with protecting season tickets holders or trying to sell a few more that's for sure as you aren't going to persuade anyone to renew on the basis of one game.

    10,500 might stretch to 10,600 if you are lucky.

    Hibs just arent geared up for to 4,000 walk up fans streaming in and a couple of thousand Killie fans given they only just got the passwords out the door tonight for season ticket holders which was just about the last possible day they could have got away with it.

    No big deal other than losing out on easy peasy money of lets just say £50,000 at the lower estimate of 2,500 fans at £20 a pop but you have to be proactive and right on top of your game to get all the ducks in place but history tells you that's not Hibs strong point when it comes to anything to do with technology.
    That's not £50k profit though. If you allow another 2500-4000 people streaming the match your costs are going increase as a result of that. Takeaway tax and VAT etc then I can see Hibs' point about allowing only season ticket holders first, not much point in risking the system for a few grand. I'm assuming Hibs Pass is using the same platform as Celtic's "Paradise Pass"? The FAQ looks pretty identical. If so I can see why they're restricting it to ST holders only seeing the issues Celtic had with their test match last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    They've said who can watch it and who can't. They've also said that PPV will be available from October - details to be confirmed. Is that not enough for the time being?

    Why do we have to know the detail behind every decision?
    It's called communication.

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    Fair question. Let me provide an update in full this week on here.

    I’ve been presenting feedback to the club about looking after Supporters (includes PPV and more) strongly over the last two months. I’m disappointed that some supporters will miss out on Saturday but I appreciate and understand where the club has got to in making sure everything is right technically on Saturday before taking time to ensure the best structure and service specific to PPV is rolled out at the next opportunity.
    I'd honestly love to know the technical reason. If it's capacity related or whatever then fine but why they can't just come out and say it.

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    Some people are desperate to have a go at the club.
    And some are desperate to defend them at every opportunity. They aren't always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    It's called communication.



    I'd honestly love to know the technical reason. If it's capacity related or whatever then fine but why they can't just come out and say it.



    And some are desperate to defend them at every opportunity. They aren't always right.
    They have communicated. Very well - considering they have been down to bare bones in that area. A lot of staff not coming back till Friday. Technical reason is to try and build up the product without its crashing on day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    It's called communication.
    They've said that PPV will be available from October. That information has been communicated. If there's no PPV on Saturday because the club aren't confident that it'll work then they aren't going to say that - you don't communicate a lack of confidence in your technical partners.

    Again, what makes you think we should be told the reasons behind every decision made?


    And some are desperate to defend them at every opportunity. They aren't always right.
    I'll support my club every time against people having a go unjustly.

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    Personally I think the games should be accessible to everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Personally I think the games should be accessible to everyone
    Thats not a statement that any rational person would disagree with, but that doesnt mean that it is possible to facilitate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    They've said that PPV will be available from October. That information has been communicated. If there's no PPV on Saturday because the club aren't confident that it'll work then they aren't going to say that - you don't communicate a lack of confidence in your technical partners.

    Again, what makes you think we should be told the reasons behind every decision made?




    I'll support my club every time against people having a go unjustly.
    It's only fair those Hibs fans who are missing out get a full and clear explanation, you might even find some might go 'ah fair enough then'. And well, Kilmarnock FC aswell.


    It's not unjust. The club aren't all perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    It's only fair those Hibs fans who are missing out get a full and clear explanation, you might even find some might go 'ah fair enough then'. And well, Kilmarnock FC aswell.


    It's not unjust. The club aren't all perfect.
    The club have said they want to make sure the product works for their season ticket holders on Saturday before making it more widely available. Is that not an explanation? How much more do you want to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    It's only fair those Hibs fans who are missing out get a full and clear explanation, you might even find some might go 'ah fair enough then'. And well, Kilmarnock FC aswell.
    You're looking for something to moan about. Fans would probably be entitled to an explanation if PPV was a service that was no longer available, where in fact it's something that Hibs have never done before. They've said that it'll start in October. What more do you need to know?

    It's not unjust. The club aren't all perfect.
    See above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    You're looking for something to moan about. Fans would probably be entitled to an explanation if PPV was a service that was no longer available, where in fact it's something that Hibs have never done before. They've said that it'll start in October. What more do you need to know?

    See above.
    No I'm not, you're out of touch here. Look at the response on social media, from our own fans and others.

    I'm honestly getting bored of your constant and quite frankly draining responses to anyone who dares to criticize the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    No I'm not, you're out of touch here. Look at the response on social media, from our own fans and others.

    I'm honestly getting bored of your constant and quite frankly draining responses to anyone who dares to criticize the club.
    Block me then. I don't care.

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    No I'm not, you're out of touch here. Look at the response on social media, from our own fans and others.

    I'm honestly getting bored of your constant and quite frankly draining responses to anyone who dares to criticize the club.
    I'm not sure social media is a good barometer for a hibs fans, you should see twitter on a match day when the twitter feed say... Corner Hibs, taken short kilmarnock break 😂😂😂

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    Sounds like a sensible approach given the assuming lack of staff in this area due to Covid. A cautious approach which works well for the core fans first up will then allow the club to fix any issues and adjust capacity going forward. Celtic a much bigger club with assuming many more resources had issues on Sunday so Hibs have been sensible and responded to that.

    The worse decision would have been to let many more watch with the risk it ruined everyone's viewing of the match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    I'm not sure social media is a good barometer for a hibs fans, you should see twitter on a match day when the twitter feed say... Corner Hibs, taken short kilmarnock break 😂😂😂
    Don't think social media is a barometer of anything to be honest. Gives every psycho a voice.

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    For a moment I thought I’d logged on to calimero.net.

    Not that kickery dickery dock place though is still far too civilised and polite here thank goodness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    No I'm not, you're out of touch here. Look at the response on social media, from our own fans and others.

    I'm honestly getting bored of your constant and quite frankly draining responses to anyone who dares to criticize the club.
    Social media isnt real life.

    There are two very obvious issues that the social media heroes appear to have ignored -

    One being the ability of Stream Digital to deal with the technical issues properly - I think we can see from the Celtic Ross County friendly that this is less than perfect.

    The second is that those clubs being praised on social media for providing a streaming service at a cheap rate (Killie, Well, St Mirren) have fewer collective STs than our club.
    These 3 clubs dont (really) care about their ST holders - Hibs, Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers have to care.............is it a surprise that those larger clubs have not come out praising the service and offering £12 a pop service?


    Hibs have committed to provide a service to ST holders.............so they have to do this, even if there are teething troubles in the first few weeks.

    Hibs cant come come out and say they are concerned that Stream Digital may not deliver.

    If Hibs are concerned, it would be bonkers for them to accept cash from Killie and non ST Hibs fans before Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    Social media isnt real life.

    There are two very obvious issues that the social media heroes appear to have ignored -

    One being the ability of Stream Digital to deal with the technical issues properly - I think we can see from the Celtic Ross County friendly that this is less than perfect.

    The second is that those clubs being praised on social media for providing a streaming service at a cheap rate (Killie, Well, St Mirren) have fewer collective STs than our club.
    These 3 clubs dont (really) care about their ST holders - Hibs, Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers have to care.............is it a surprise that those larger clubs have not come out praising the service and offering £12 a pop service?


    Hibs have committed to provide a service to ST holders.............so they have to do this, even if there are teething troubles in the first few weeks.

    Hibs cant come come out and say they are concerned that Stream Digital may not deliver.

    If Hibs are concerned, it would be bonkers for them to accept cash from Killie and non ST Hibs fans before Saturday.
    Quite frankly ... draining!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    It's only fair those Hibs fans who are missing out get a full and clear explanation, you might even find some might go 'ah fair enough then'. And well, Kilmarnock FC aswell.


    It's not unjust. The club aren't all perfect.
    Buy a ST. The club have said it’s the only way to guarantee you can watch the game. There will always be limited bandwidth for streaming, so imagine it’s like any other sold out game. If you don’t have a ST you aren’t guaranteed to get in. It’s not a normal Hibs v Killie game and people just need to accept that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    No I'm not, you're out of touch here. Look at the response on social media, from our own fans and others.

    I'm honestly getting bored of your constant and quite frankly draining responses to anyone who dares to criticize the club.
    You are miles out of touch. You demands and expectations are a far distance from reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Buy a ST. The club have said it’s the only way to guarantee you can watch the game. There will always be limited bandwidth for streaming, so imagine it’s like any other sold out game. If you don’t have a ST you aren’t guaranteed to get in. It’s not a normal Hibs v Killie game and people just need to accept that.
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    You are miles out of touch. You demands and expectations are a far distance from reality.
    I have a ST. Perhaps if you had bothered to read the thread in full you will have seen that. Limited bandwidth?

    I'm the one out of touch? That's hilarious coming from you to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge View Post
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    I have a ST. Perhaps if you had bothered to read the thread in full you will have seen that. Limited bandwidth?

    I'm the one out of touch? That's hilarious coming from you to be fair.
    You know how streaming works eh?

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    With the amount of unjustified criticism and faux outrage I can’t help but feel there are rather a lot of guests this evening. Guests who have taken a bit of a beating at arbitration and are now looking to stir a different pot. Just a personal view 🤔

    The constant need people on here have with labelling people Hearts fans when they post something they dont agree with is really tedious and seems to happen regularly now. Its pretty blatant when its a Hearts fan on here. They arent intelligent enough to be subtle. And i say that as someone who thinks the club are right here. They 100% should be putting first the 10.5k who have put in a substantial amount of money and making sure the stream works for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    You know how streaming works eh?
    Very much so.

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    Ron Gordon literally has a long career in broadcasting with access to huge resources in this field yet we are being cautious about streaming to maybe no more than 20k viewers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itslegaltender View Post
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    Ron Gordon literally has a long career in broadcasting with access to huge resources in this field yet we are being cautious about streaming to maybe no more than 20k viewers?
    There is more than one way to look at this.

    Have you considered that his long career in broadcasting may have led to the caution streaming this match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itslegaltender View Post
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    Ron Gordon literally has a long career in broadcasting with access to huge resources in this field yet we are being cautious about streaming to maybe no more than 20k viewers?
    I'm not sure Telemundo, his group of stations, do streaming or PPV.

    It'd be like asking Lewis Stevenson to play centre forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I'm not sure Telemundo, his group of stations, do streaming or PPV.

    It'd be like asking Lewis Stevenson to play centre forward.
    Or that Lewis as a professional footballer should be ok to play rugby football ..say prop forward.. all outdoor games with big balls are the same surely

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