The generic Hearts thread

[Tug Wilson]

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Liam Boyce has this to say about our Daniel as he says he'd like him to stay on no matter what division they are in next season.

"He always has a game plan with tactics for every team and I've never seen that sort of detail

I find this stunning. Would expect any manager to produce a game plan for every game against each opposition. Stendal can't be the only one.

[theonlywayisup]

I see that the Stranraer Chairman has joined Hertz in their fight against relegation. However, I think that he's got his facts wrong.

“When the resolution was taken, Partick Thistle and Stranraer were the only teams in Europe to be officially relegated because of the pandemic.


“Since then France has called their league and has unofficially relegated clubs, but there has been intervention from the French government to push for this to be reversed because they feel it is wrong.


“For two clubs in Scotland to be the only ones currently affected with automatic relegation, it feels wrong to me."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...n-spfl-2852898

That said, was maybe correct when he made the statement, but am I correct in saying that the Belgium league has relegation confirmed yesterday. Also League 2 in England has three promoted with possibly a 4th via the play-offs, surely that means four teams must be relegated.

[Waxy]

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I see that the Stranraer Chairman has joined Hertz in their fight against relegation. However, I think that he's got his facts wrong.

“When the resolution was taken, Partick Thistle and Stranraer were the only teams in Europe to be officially relegated because of the pandemic.


“Since then France has called their league and has unofficially relegated clubs, but there has been intervention from the French government to push for this to be reversed because they feel it is wrong.


“For two clubs in Scotland to be the only ones currently affected with automatic relegation, it feels wrong to me."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...n-spfl-2852898

That said, was maybe correct when he made the statement, but am I correct in saying that the Belgium league has relegation confirmed yesterday. Also League 2 in England has three promoted with possibly a 4th via the play-offs, surely that means four teams must be relegated.

There would be a complete uproar much worse than from them if teams werent relegated.
They are down on sporting merit.
Otherwise there would be no promotion or all the other clubs would have to pay for their failure. The governments have no jurisdiction at all to tell a football association to change its rules.

[lucky]

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I see that the Stranraer Chairman has joined Hertz in their fight against relegation. However, I think that he's got his facts wrong.

“When the resolution was taken, Partick Thistle and Stranraer were the only teams in Europe to be officially relegated because of the pandemic.


“Since then France has called their league and has unofficially relegated clubs, but there has been intervention from the French government to push for this to be reversed because they feel it is wrong.


“For two clubs in Scotland to be the only ones currently affected with automatic relegation, it feels wrong to me."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...n-spfl-2852898

That said, was maybe correct when he made the statement, but am I correct in saying that the Belgium league has relegation confirmed yesterday. Also League 2 in England has three promoted with possibly a 4th via the play-offs, surely that means four teams must be relegated.

I know Ian and he’ll do nothing, his club don’t have a penny and certainly won’t be taking legal action. He’s shouting off in the hope of compensation

[Ronniekirk]

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I see that the Stranraer Chairman has joined Hertz in their fight against relegation. However, I think that he's got his facts wrong.

“When the resolution was taken, Partick Thistle and Stranraer were the only teams in Europe to be officially relegated because of the pandemic.


“Since then France has called their league and has unofficially relegated clubs, but there has been intervention from the French government to push for this to be reversed because they feel it is wrong.


“For two clubs in Scotland to be the only ones currently affected with automatic relegation, it feels wrong to me."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...n-spfl-2852898

That said, was maybe correct when he made the statement, but am I correct in saying that the Belgium league has relegation confirmed yesterday. Also League 2 in England has three promoted with possibly a 4th via the play-offs, surely that means four teams must be relegated.

The fact they aren’t letting this go seems strange if it’s a done deal
Who are they hoping to influence
Or are they just intent on stirring things up even when decision is taken formally
This is now getting boring
But by not formally announcing a decision its just playing into a minority factions hands


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[Peevemor]

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The fact they aren’t letting this go seems strange if it’s a done deal
Who are they hoping to influence
Or are they just intent on stirring things up even when decision is taken formally
This is now getting boring
But by not formally announcing a decision its just playing into a minority factions hands


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He's not speaking about taking action - he's just moaning.

[Carheenlea]

https://twitter.com/ApologyHearts is back in some rather splendid form.

“Cameron Presentations Ltd £5406. Hired to help set up our Player of the Year do, it's with great regret that not only did we default on their payment, but a "confused" Mr. Romanov chased their CEO down McLeod St wearing nothing but a tam o' shanter and a Hearts scarf. A low point”

“£589 owed to @BritishGas_UKB. You'll be pleased to know that our great club now have an excellent relationship with them, our disgusting past behaviour firmly behind us. In fact, they have been very helpful assisting us design and build a drying room for journalists wet clothes”

“BT Global Services. Should've included this in the previous tweet. When you owe someone over 3k what's another £67? Anyway, it was for a replacement ethernet connection for our strategically placed Police Control Room. Sorry”

“BritishTelecom £3,024. It goes without saying that we apologise for yet another unpaid debt. However, in our defence, Vlad was running an internationally known world famous brand. For starters, he had at least 80 people laundering his money, now that's not easy to keep on top of.“

“Big Hearts Community Trust, £34,048. Nothing to see here. I'm reliably informed by Tom English that someone, somewhere, somehow paid this debt. And you trust us now, right? So that's all fine then? Good.”

“Beswick Sports Ltd, £3,000. Imagine us getting in debt with an agent? Reminds me, I need to check in with Liam Boyce, re. wages. Anyway, sorry about that.“

“Sincere apologies to Baltic Clipper travel agency for the £497 that we didn't pay you. I can tell you we are now run with complete integrity. Thanks to Dr Queen Ann Budge, businesswoman extraordinaire, our dark days are firmly behind us and we are at the peak of our 5 year plan.”

[ancient hibee]

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Liam Boyce has this to say about our Daniel as he says he'd like him to stay on no matter what division they are in next season.

"He always has a game plan with tactics for every team and I've never seen that sort of detail

Well that was a huge success.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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https://twitter.com/ApologyHearts is back in some rather splendid form.

“Cameron Presentations Ltd £5406. Hired to help set up our Player of the Year do, it's with great regret that not only did we default on their payment, but a "confused" Mr. Romanov chased their CEO down McLeod St wearing nothing but a tam o' shanter and a Hearts scarf. A low point”

“£589 owed to @BritishGas_UKB. You'll be pleased to know that our great club now have an excellent relationship with them, our disgusting past behaviour firmly behind us. In fact, they have been very helpful assisting us design and build a drying room for journalists wet clothes”

“BT Global Services. Should've included this in the previous tweet. When you owe someone over 3k what's another £67? Anyway, it was for a replacement ethernet connection for our strategically placed Police Control Room. Sorry”

“BritishTelecom £3,024. It goes without saying that we apologise for yet another unpaid debt. However, in our defence, Vlad was running an internationally known world famous brand. For starters, he had at least 80 people laundering his money, now that's not easy to keep on top of.“

“Big Hearts Community Trust, £34,048. Nothing to see here. I'm reliably informed by Tom English that someone, somewhere, somehow paid this debt. And you trust us now, right? So that's all fine then? Good.”

“Beswick Sports Ltd, £3,000. Imagine us getting in debt with an agent? Reminds me, I need to check in with Liam Boyce, re. wages. Anyway, sorry about that.“

“Sincere apologies to Baltic Clipper travel agency for the £497 that we didn't pay you. I can tell you we are now run with complete integrity. Thanks to Dr Queen Ann Budge, businesswoman extraordinaire, our dark days are firmly behind us and we are at the peak of our 5 year plan.”

Superb

[The 90+2]

I don’t think they will be pleased with this:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...n-cup-22035715

[G B Young]

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Liam Boyce has this to say about our Daniel as he says he'd like him to stay on no matter what division they are in next season.

"He always has a game plan with tactics for every team and I've never seen that sort of detail

So detailed are his game plans that they allow him to spend Christmas in Germany, safe in the knowledge that the tactics he's left for his staff to implement will run like clockwork in the Boxing Day derby...

[brog]

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https://twitter.com/ApologyHearts is back in some rather splendid form.

“Cameron Presentations Ltd £5406. Hired to help set up our Player of the Year do, it's with great regret that not only did we default on their payment, but a "confused" Mr. Romanov chased their CEO down McLeod St wearing nothing but a tam o' shanter and a Hearts scarf. A low point”

“£589 owed to @BritishGas_UKB. You'll be pleased to know that our great club now have an excellent relationship with them, our disgusting past behaviour firmly behind us. In fact, they have been very helpful assisting us design and build a drying room for journalists wet clothes”

“BT Global Services. Should've included this in the previous tweet. When you owe someone over 3k what's another £67? Anyway, it was for a replacement ethernet connection for our strategically placed Police Control Room. Sorry”

“BritishTelecom £3,024. It goes without saying that we apologise for yet another unpaid debt. However, in our defence, Vlad was running an internationally known world famous brand. For starters, he had at least 80 people laundering his money, now that's not easy to keep on top of.“

“Big Hearts Community Trust, £34,048. Nothing to see here. I'm reliably informed by Tom English that someone, somewhere, somehow paid this debt. And you trust us now, right? So that's all fine then? Good.”

“Beswick Sports Ltd, £3,000. Imagine us getting in debt with an agent? Reminds me, I need to check in with Liam Boyce, re. wages. Anyway, sorry about that.“

“Sincere apologies to Baltic Clipper travel agency for the £497 that we didn't pay you. I can tell you we are now run with complete integrity. Thanks to Dr Queen Ann Budge, businesswoman extraordinaire, our dark days are firmly behind us and we are at the peak of our 5 year plan.”

Excellent!! I've posted this before but I think it's worth repeating because it proves conclusively the Hearts were defaulting from the beginning of the 2012/13 season despite Self Sufficient Southern & others protestations. Here's another shafted creditor.
Il Ciocco, £11,469. Il Ciocco is a resort hotel in the Tuscany town of Barga. Jim Jefferies took Killie & Hearts there for pre season training & Hearts continued the tradition post Jumbo. Barga has extensive Scottish roots & connections, they have an annual fish & chips festival, a pipe band & Paolo Nutini & Daniela Nardini come from the area. As such the locals were always delighted to welcome an SPL team to their beautiful town. Not any more! Hearts went there for pre season training in July 2012. It's painful for us but this was 2 months after they had finished us as a club & they were naturally on an all time high with record merchandising & ticket sales. All of that did not stop them sneaking off from Tuscany & leaving an unpaid bill of £11k+. That's right, in July 2012, at possibly the highest point in their history & a full 11 months before they went into admin, Hearts were already welshing on payments. That they continued to lie, cheat, & defraud throughout the 2012/13 season & ultimately deny Dundee a place in the top league is to their eternal disgrace. The team with no shame! Get doon!!

[grunt]

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I don’t think they will be pleased with this:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...n-cup-22035715

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Part of Adam’s heart will never leave Tynecastle.

That just sounds all kinds of wrong to me.

[wallpaperman]

Just about choked on my drive thru Costa when I saw this bit of drivel on kickback;

‘Hearts have always been the anti establishment club time we found our balls again as the they have been tucked up inside us for far to long now.’

Anti-establishment? They are the biggest bunch of cap doffing, dull lickspittles, establishment wanna be’s you could ever come across in football.

[CentreLine]

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Excellent!! I've posted this before but I think it's worth repeating because it proves conclusively the Hearts were defaulting from the beginning of the 2012/13 season despite Self Sufficient Southern & others protestations. Here's another shafted creditor.
Il Ciocco, £11,469. Il Ciocco is a resort hotel in the Tuscany town of Barga. Jim Jefferies took Killie & Hearts there for pre season training & Hearts continued the tradition post Jumbo. Barga has extensive Scottish roots & connections, they have an annual fish & chips festival, a pipe band & Paolo Nutini & Daniela Nardini come from the area. As such the locals were always delighted to welcome an SPL team to their beautiful town. Not any more! Hearts went there for pre season training in July 2012. It's painful for us but this was 2 months after they had finished us as a club & they were naturally on an all time high with record merchandising & ticket sales. All of that did not stop them sneaking off from Tuscany & leaving an unpaid bill of £11k+. That's right, in July 2012, at possibly the highest point in their history & a full 11 months before they went into admin, Hearts were already welshing on payments. That they continued to lie, cheat, & defraud throughout the 2012/13 season & ultimately deny Dundee a place in the top league is to their eternal disgrace. The team with no shame! Get doon!!

That is quite a revelation and hasn’t seen your previous mention of it. Definitely needs to be added to the list of apologies. Also needs to be acknowledged by the dafties over the other side of town when claiming they were not over spending and playing players they could not afford.

Just wonder what direction the authorities were looking at that point???

[Sammy7nil]

From kickback

"Hearts have always been the anti establishment club time we found our balls again as the they have been tucked up inside us for far to long now."

[Kojock]

Saughton Jambo***

Posted*1 hour ago

Since Leslie Deans interview on Sportsound last Saturday then I have been In*regular contact with Les. Les*contacted me personally this morning *via telephone*and asked me to post his official letter to our chairman outlining his views on court action*on his behalf.

*

Can everyone please share this on all social media platforms to spread his word as his request?*
*

many thanks*

*

SJ
*

I have copied and pasted*his views verbatim and have removed his personal email address for obvious reasons.*
*

As follows:-

*

In my opinion, There are a minimum of 3 grounds which would entitle Hearts, Partick Thistle, Stranraer and perhaps Rangers, to institute civil court proceedings against SPFL and the clubs who voted to expel the first 3 clubs
Firstly, the clubs formed a common purpose. In the case of the premiership , that was to play 38 games against each other with club 12 to be relegated after these games were played. A common purpose creates a duty of care to each other. The actions of certain other members breach that duty. Additionally the SPFL must act in the best interest of all member clubs and I believe they have failed to do so. Their actions and conduct are set out in the dossier prepared by Rangers. The excuse given for abandoning the current campaign is that they want to start a new campaign, excluding Hearts from the Premiership. The chairman of SPFL has stated he hopes this can happen by July. By committing to a new campaign with a different membership , before the existing campaign is complete , a breach of duty occurs.*
Secondly, there was material non disclosure by SPFL in their briefing pack to clubs on April 8. As I understand it, no reference was made to the potential rebate claim by broadcasters if the league was called early. Additionally no other options than early termination were presented to clubs who were told this was the only feasible option. It was not. By their actions and omissions SPFL did not act in the best interest of all clubs. *
Thirdly, the SPFL motion was not passed. Dundee FC were not legally entitled to change their vote after it was cast. The motion failed and no further motion has been put to the clubs. SPFL are acting illegally.*
The pursuers only need to convince the court on any one of these 3 grounds to win the case.*

If so, the following remedies should be sought
1- Interdict against SPFL starting a new campaign until the current one is finished, whenever that might be.*
2- damages for actual and potential financial loss stemming from their expulsion.*
3- the expenses of litigation.*

*

Yours Faithfully

*

Leslie Deans*

[Sammy7nil]

Sportsound Richard Gordon "Temp reconstruction still very much on the table"

[Billy Whizz]

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Sportsound Richard Gordon "Temp reconstruction still very on the table"

Surely not?

[Aldo]

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Sportsound Richard Gordon "Temp reconstruction still very on the table"

Eh naw Dick.

Time to move on. Mind you giving them a glimpse of false hope is pretty funny!


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[Heisenberg]

Am being told to expect the @spfl to ‘call’ the Premiership on Monday, with @CelticFC being declared Scottish champions for the 9th year in a row. And @JamTarts relegated, pending another attempt at league reconstruction, which could now be resurrected. @BBCSportsound from 2pm

How could reconstruction be resurrected? There’s no benefit to the majority of teams.

[greenginger]

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https://twitter.com/ApologyHearts is back in some rather splendid form.

“Cameron Presentations Ltd £5406. Hired to help set up our Player of the Year do, it's with great regret that not only did we default on their payment, but a "confused" Mr. Romanov chased their CEO down McLeod St wearing nothing but a tam o' shanter and a Hearts scarf. A low point”

“£589 owed to @BritishGas_UKB. You'll be pleased to know that our great club now have an excellent relationship with them, our disgusting past behaviour firmly behind us. In fact, they have been very helpful assisting us design and build a drying room for journalists wet clothes”

“BT Global Services. Should've included this in the previous tweet. When you owe someone over 3k what's another £67? Anyway, it was for a replacement ethernet connection for our strategically placed Police Control Room. Sorry”

“BritishTelecom £3,024. It goes without saying that we apologise for yet another unpaid debt. However, in our defence, Vlad was running an internationally known world famous brand. For starters, he had at least 80 people laundering his money, now that's not easy to keep on top of.“

“Big Hearts Community Trust, £34,048. Nothing to see here. I'm reliably informed by Tom English that someone, somewhere, somehow paid this debt. And you trust us now, right? So that's all fine then? Good.”

“Beswick Sports Ltd, £3,000. Imagine us getting in debt with an agent? Reminds me, I need to check in with Liam Boyce, re. wages. Anyway, sorry about that.“

“Sincere apologies to Baltic Clipper travel agency for the £497 that we didn't pay you. I can tell you we are now run with complete integrity. Thanks to Dr Queen Ann Budge, businesswoman extraordinaire, our dark days are firmly behind us and we are at the peak of our 5 year plan.”

The Big Hearts debt of £ 34,048 disappears from the final shame list thanks to a bit of underhand manoeuvres by their corrupt admin, Bryan Jackson.

He “ invented “ an invoice for the amount due charging the Trust for accommodation in their offices to wipe out the debt.

It mattered nought that there was no agreement for this between the parties nor that HOMFC weren’t paying our Council for the rent due or business rates either for the property.

[Aldo]

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Surely not?

Billy by the sounds of it he’s grasping at straws. Water under the proverbial bridge in that it’s been dealt with!

Dick is being good at what he does... being a dick!

Cannot see it


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[Jones28]

Reconstruction has been killed by the vote surely? Somebody just make a ****ing decision please.

[Greenworld]

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Am being told to expect the @spfl to ‘call’ the Premiership on Monday, with @CelticFC being declared Scottish champions for the 9th year in a row. And @JamTarts relegated, pending another attempt at league reconstruction, which could now be resurrected. @BBCSportsound from 2pm

How could reconstruction be resurrected? There’s no benefit to the majority of teams.

I don't believe it the reconstruction could be discussed again a couple of seasons but it is binned . A ploy to get people to listen in , well it won't work with me , 810 am is it?

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[Greenworld]

LoL written by a 10 year old

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[Heisenberg]

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I don't believe it the reconstruction could be discussed again a couple of seasons but it is binned . A ploy to get people to listen in , well it won't work with me , 810 am is it?

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That was my thought, they don’t have any more votes to talk about. Temporary reconstruction was not something that most teams wanted, a permanent solution was favoured and that couldn’t get the support required. I’m sure the likes of Aberdeen and Celtc favoured a temporary change but the smaller sides in the league would vote against it.

[Billy Whizz]

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Billy by the sounds of it he’s grasping at straws. Water under the proverbial bridge in that it’s been dealt with!

Dick is being good at what he does... being a dick!

Cannot see it


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Hope so

[Aldo]

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Hope so

We’ve already had the vote Billy. And it was a family fortunes

Someone making mischief me thinks.


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[Greenworld]

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That was my thought, they don’t have any more votes to talk about. Temporary reconstruction was not something that most teams wanted, a permanent solution was favoured and that couldn’t get the support required. I’m sure the likes of Aberdeen and Celtc favoured a temporary change but the smaller sides in the league would vote against it.

Lets put it this way if it was true all the press would be reporting it not cheep

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