The generic Hearts thread

[Ozyhibby]

There won’t be a legal challenge from Hearts because they don’t have a leg to stand on.


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[A Hi-Bee]

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I’m not saying endorse their calls for an investigation. That is too narrow a focus. Call the league, relegate Hearts and then do a full investigation on the governance of the game. And leave nothing off the table and have the whole process transparent.


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Like I said that can all be done once the dust has settled and we know that the game has survived, it should never be done at the calling of the heartz or the hun as they are both screaming for.
A year or two in the future when the game is stronger once more then for sure have all the investigations required, still never gonna be able to keep all happy, but by that time the Heartz will still be in the 2nd Division.

[Since452]

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OK maybe you can tell me. What has the SPFL done wrong in all this?

What questions are raised?

I'd like to know as well. I think they've handled the whole situation well

[Bostonhibby]

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The clutching at straws on JKB is outstanding.

“Expelled”
“Hand in our notice and join the English leagues”
Thinking the legal action they’re not going to end up taking will mean all of Scottish football can’t play again - until of course Hearts are reinstated in the top tier because it’s so unfair that they’ve been relegated after being the worst team in the league for nearly 2 years.

The lack of a brain cell between them is something to behold.

They would never meet the criteria, they would expect to be fast tracked into the top flight.

There are a few non league clubs who do qualify for the leagues proper down here and they have to play their way through.

They're Spending money to do it and there's at least one new stadium being built.

Hypothetically Hearts would have to try at Conference North level, or lower to get in and there would be plenty clubs, with vested interest who wouldn't vote them in.

Howling at the moon.

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[Jones28]

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I'd like to know as well. I think they've handled the whole situation well

As well as can be imo, the confusion surrounding the vote and Dundee in particular was unhelpful. Although Dundee developed an air of superiority that was beyond belief around all that.

[A Hi-Bee]

Man wots going on here one min the thread is closed and then open again, we demand an answer!
**** the Heartz and get them relegated, end of.

[Ozyhibby]

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I'd like to know as well. I think they've handled the whole situation well

I think they came to the right decision. Their control of the situation though has fallen way short. We have members clubs insulting each other and openly calling each other names as well as calling into question the integrity of the league. That should not be happening.


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[hibbyfraelibby]

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Man wots going on here one min the thread is closed and then open again, we demand an answer!
**** the Heartz and get them relegated, end of.

There should be on open statement about this blunder hand wrecking action by under cover Yams just because the thread crashed through 10k posts. No-one ejects a hibby from his posts. I demand this thread recalibrated as unclosable

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There should be on open statement about this blunder hand wrecking actuon by under cover Yams just because the thread crashed through 10k posts. No-one ejects a hibby from his pists. I demand this thread recalibrated as unclosable

Hear, hear I'll second that, this thread can never be closed.
Now that we have that out of the way, relegate the heartz.

[Since452]

I thought Hearts had starved this thread of the maroon pound there

[Waxy]

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Hes the guy who posted this before they played St Mirren.

Zero shame.

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Dear judge. We cant be relegated because its no fair because when we got relegated there was a pandemic.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm willing to do a parachute jump for this cause, and i'm sure my Bollywood wife would do it too.

[04Sauzee]

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They might be able to but a nice greenhouse for the media "area" if it carries on like this. It's not as if they've any track record of using funds for their original purpose.

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Where's the link to the fund?

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I’m not saying endorse their calls for an investigation. That is too narrow a focus. Call the league, relegate Hearts and then do a full investigation on the governance of the game. And leave nothing off the table and have the whole process transparent.


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let’s get it all out in the open.

[Bostonhibby]

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Where's the link to the fund?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/onl...utm...f+share-flow-1

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[04Sauzee]

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/onl...utm...f+share-flow-1

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Looks like it may have been pulled?

[Bostonhibby]

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Looks like it may have been pulled?

So they are buying a greenhouse after all

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[Caversham Green]

The problem with having an inquiry is that it would almost certainly find something that could have been done better - inquiries do that to justify their existence. For example, with hindsight the publication of the incomplete vote looks like bad management but they didn't know Dundee were going to try to sell their vote and had they not published when they did they would have suffered accusations of secrecy and corruption. Bear in mind it wasn't the SPFL that let it be known whose vote was missing, it was those who felt they had something to gain from it being in the public domain but that would be lost in an inquiry report. Any list of shortfalls, however minor, would have "Rangers" jumping all over it.

This whole conflict isn't just about the current crisis. It's about an attempted power grab by the new club who want to get to the stage of running the game the way their predecessor club did. Get rid of Doncaster and a "Rangers" place man will replace him - maybe that's why Donald Finlay has suddenly stuck his oar in. They leapt on a worldwide disaster to press their claim because that's the sort of people they are and they're fortunate that Hearts are in the position they're in because they now have one of the country's bigger clubs with a naïve and weak leader as allies. It's bad enough with Celtic running the show without Sevco joining them.

[easty]

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This whole conflict isn't just about the current crisis. It's about an attempted power grab by the new club who want to get to the stage of running the game the way their predecessor club did. Get rid of Doncaster and a "Rangers" place man will replace him - maybe that's why Donald Finlay has suddenly stuck his oar in.

Absolutely, couldn’t agree more.

[Caversham Green]

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Looks like it may have been pulled?

Maybe HoMFC have told them it's a bad idea?

[Jim44]

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Looks like it may have been pulled?

Just to advise that links to any fund raising pages to support any legal action by the club have been removed, for the moment at least.

This has been done for several reasons,

- any fundraising on the forum ( as always ) requires the permission of the admin team.
- no legal action has yet been commenced, as far as we are aware
- the club/FoH have not yet requested funds in support of potential legal action
- if such a request is made we would prefer to ensure that money is collected in the most efficient way with appropriate governance in place

[Green Blood]

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Looks like it may have been pulled?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hearts

still there I think! See Dens Kidd has some sympathy for their cause!

[PatHead]

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The problem with having an inquiry is that it would almost certainly find something that could have been done better - inquiries do that to justify their existence. For example, with hindsight the publication of the incomplete vote looks like bad management but they didn't know Dundee were going to try to sell their vote and had they not published when they did they would have suffered accusations of secrecy and corruption. Bear in mind it wasn't the SPFL that let it be known whose vote was missing, it was those who felt they had something to gain from it being in the public domain but that would be lost in an inquiry report. Any list of shortfalls, however minor, would have "Rangers" jumping all over it.

This whole conflict isn't just about the current crisis. It's about an attempted power grab by the new club who want to get to the stage of running the game the way their predecessor club did. Get rid of Doncaster and a "Rangers" place man will replace him - maybe that's why Donald Finlay has suddenly stuck his oar in. They leapt on a worldwide disaster to press their claim because that's the sort of people they are and they're fortunate that Hearts are in the position they're in because they now have one of the country's bigger clubs with a naïve and weak leader as allies. It's bad enough with Celtic running the show without Sevco joining them.

Wonder if Tom English would put himself in the frame. Jim Traynor is also looking for work.

[Biggie]

"Dave Vanacek jersey I sponsored last year to give away as an auction prize" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[Hibeesforever]

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hearts

still there I think! See Dens Kidd has some sympathy for their cause!

That's a classic, five pounds well spent...

[Green Blood]

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Just to advise that links to any fund raising pages to support any legal action by the club have been removed, for the moment at least.

This has been done for several reasons,

- any fundraising on the forum ( as always ) requires the permission of the admin team.
- no legal action has yet been commenced, as far as we are aware
- the club/FoH have not yet requested funds in support of potential legal action
- if such a request is made we would prefer to ensure that money is collected in the most efficient way with appropriate governance in place

Might get my fiver back now!

[SuperAllyMcleod]

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The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

Three donations in 9 hours, that’s quite impressive.

[Clarence]

How the mighty league champions of September 2018 have fallen.

[Jim44]

They seem to be getting tied in knots over there. One minute it’s gofundme, then it’s don’tfundme. Then it’s ochalrightgofundme ....... I think the present status is maybeyoushouldn’tgofundme.

[Hibeesforever]

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Three donations in 9 hours, that’s quite impressive.

There is still Mr Leslie Deans four figure investment to come...