The generic Hearts thread

[G B Young]

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Tom English seems to get a free pass for any s*** he comes out with because he once called out the old firm for sectarianism.

I didn't used to mind the guy until a couple of years ago when his yam sympathies started to become clear.

[The Captain....]

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Tom English seems to get a free pass for any s*** he comes out with because he once called out the old firm for sectarianism.

He seems to trumpet anything Budge says without the merest scrutiny or critical thinking. I find his football analysis very superficial.

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[AltheHibby]

Well, some ads are clearly a waste of money. Like this one I just saw on Kickback.Screenshot_20200419-133001_Chrome.jpg

[Dashing Bob S]

We should play the Scottish cup games.,

[Jack]

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We should play the Scottish cup games.,

If we can play them this year in front of a crowd I'd agree.

Might reconsider the use of Murrayfield to cut down travel.

[Carheenlea]

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I didn't used to mind the guy until a couple of years ago when his yam sympathies started to become clear.

I think most quite welcomed Tom English when he appeared on the scene at Sportsound as he was a different voice to some of the tired old faces, but for me it was when he started to do more of the rugby on the BBC it became clear that he genuinely was a real aficionado of the sport and a very knowledgeable commentator, but when you then contrasted that with the depth of his football analysis it feel way short of the quality that he can offer on rugby union.

[Jim44]

Correct me if I’m wrong but Budge insists they spent big to avoid relegation. I suspect they spent big to buy success. It all depends on the way you spin it. Same result, alas, ............ gross failure.

[FilipinoHibs]

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I think most quite welcomed Tom English when he appeared on the scene at Sportsound as he was a different voice to some of the tired old faces, but for me it was when he started to do more of the rugby on the BBC it became clear that he genuinely was a real aficionado of the sport and a very knowledgeable commentator, but when you then contrasted that with the depth of his football analysis it feel way short of the quality that he can offer on rugby union.

Other rugby buffs on here, me included, i am from Hawick, think he is clueless on the rugby as well.

[Waxy]

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Does he ask her if it’s unfair for clubs to go down, is it unfair for clubs not to come up? Would she be as vocal if Hearts weren’t bottom? Would she be lobbying for reconstruction? Does she agree they’re the worst team in the league by a distance? Have you been spending money on contracts you can’t afford? Etc,etc..
No he won’t, but that should be getting asked as a journalist!!

Especially from the bbc. They should be ashamed of themselves.
One day we’ll have an unbiased group of people on this willing an able to say it as it is.Not just be a mouthpiece for certain clubs agendas.

[jacomo]

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Just as a wee aside, i wonder if many of the Hearts players have a clause in their contracts which means they are able to leave if the club was relegated. This might benefit Hearts as they will have to live within their means next season Ha ! but they might struggle to put a competitive team on the field, shame.

Given what a mess Budge has made of things, it wouldn’t surprise if most of their squad have no relegation clauses at all.

Budge may well have the opposite problem - stuck paying the wages of a load of players she can’t get rid of.

[MrSmith]

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Given what a mess Budge has made of things, it wouldn’t surprise if most of their squad have no relegation clauses at all.

Budge may well have the opposite problem - stuck paying the wages of a load of players she can’t get rid of.

That is exactly why there will be and admin event at spincastle!

[Irish_Steve]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

[Viva_Palmeiras]

The editors and Editorial direction of Radio Scotland.
Now there’s something that has never had a light shone on it.
I’d imagine most Hibs fans and probably extending out to other clubs would have noticed a chance in Sportsound in recent years. More confrontational, controversial, stirring things up - Richard Gordon turned from mild mannered accountants to God knows what. Was it The Rangers going down wot done it?
Only a handful of folks seem to mention this.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

Clinging on to their club and notions of Jam-tartedness - I give you the cling-ons ;)

[Since452]

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Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

They are a special breed

[Hibs4185]

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Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

[Bostonhibby]

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Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

They're all on the Foundation of Givers list

Which is, as they say, pleasing.

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[Billy Whizz]

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This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Hearts have used 36 players this season, most in the Premiership, that’s a lot of wages to pay

[jacomo]

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Correct me if I’m wrong but Budge insists they spent big to avoid relegation. I suspect they spent big to buy success. It all depends on the way you spin it. Same result, alas, ............ gross failure.

God you are right.

All SPFL member clubs should vote to allow Budge to decide final league placings this season. As she says, she is not driven by self-interest at all and she just hates unfairness.

This will probably mean that Hearts will ‘finish’ somewhere in the top 3 - after all, she did spend a lot of money so deserves recognition for that. And Hibs will probably get relegated. But it’s a small price to pay to have this wonderful visionary businesswoman running our game.

[jacomo]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...earts-21892291

[Bostonhibby]

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Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...earts-21892291

So is David Icke, so they should be okay.

Deluded. He'll be telling us they paid for the poppies next

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[Onion]

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Hearts have used 36 players this season, most in the Premiership, that’s a lot of wages to pay

And more fouls than any other club. so their famous rotational approach to thuggery working well.

Budge's "substantial investments to try to avoid relegation" in practice. Will be such a loss to the Premiership.

[Kaiser1962]

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This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

I noticed this a few weeks ago (when all this started) and one of the Celtic guys had posted each clubs running costs on twitter (no idea how accurate they were), in particular that it was costing around £500k - £600k a month more for Hearts to operate compared to Hibs. And Hibs have the entire running costs of East Mains to absorb.

[Brightside]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

[weecounty hibby]

It's all explained now. Kiwidoug made the comments. He's called that not because he is in NZ but because he has the IQ of a small flightless bird!! He is the king of the deluded morons

[Brightside]

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These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

He is basically saying there is more chance of Ron dying?? Like WTAF.

[007]

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This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Probably paying off monthly all the players and other staff they've got rid of. Cathro's contract was to the end of this season so wouldn't be surprised if he's included in those figures.

[matty_f]

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These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

Kiwidoug is the same guy that said their second half of the season was demonstrably better than ours.


He's the sort of guy that would spend a day in a revolving door because he couldn't figure it out.

[Ozyhibby]

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This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Costs about £45k a month to run East mains. A lot of the staff will be furloughed just now but the groundsmen will still be working.


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[Ozyhibby]

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Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...earts-21892291

All players with contracts will be staying where they are because the bottom has dropped out the market. Only player who may move are those moving up the way like Hickey and Boyle. Chances of Hearts getting rid of their many duds and us getting rid of James have been greatly reduced.


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