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[The 90+2]

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“Results will be issued once all votes have been received”

No that difficult

It still wouldn’t have been difficult to realise what club was missing in voting - especially when you have the Inverness ring piece on the radio spouting what he was yesterday.

[BoomtownHibees]

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It still wouldn’t have been difficult to realise what club was missing in voting - especially when you have the Inverness ring piece on the radio spouting what he was yesterday.

And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

[The 90+2]

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And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

Again, they didn’t reveal any clubs name.

What if the chat between the clubs was classified as highly confidentially?

[BoomtownHibees]

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Again, they didn’t reveal any clubs name.

What if the chat between the clubs was classified as highly confidentially?

I’m no really sure where you are going with this

[Onion]

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And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

And there you have it.

They might just be excused if the result was already conclusive, irrespective of the missing votes but that was not the case on Fri. The whole thing reeks, at a time when the authorities needed to be at their most professional.

They would have been much better to say nothing until all the votes were in, in good order and decisive. Instead all they've done is contribute to the confusion and conspiracy theories. Bunch of amateurs.

[BoomtownHibees]

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And there you have it.

They might just be excused if the result was already conclusive, irrespective of the missing votes but that was not the case on Fri. The whole thing reeks, at a time when the authorities needed to be at their most professional.

They would have been much better to say nothing until all the votes were in, in good order and decisive. Instead all they've done is contribute to the confusion and conspiracy theories. Bunch of amateurs.

Spot on

[Keith_M]

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Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.

The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.


Two 8's together is 88.

The letter 'H' is the eight letter of the alphabet.

Do that twice and you get HH

Which stands for Heil Hitler

Celtic were formed in 1888


Coincidence?

I think not.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Ah but he only had one ball...the other was in the Albert Hall apparently.

[NAE NOOKIE]

In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

[Billy Whizz]

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In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

You could see the likes of St Mirren/Hamilton/Ross County etc voting for a 14 team league, but they need 11 teams do get it through

Really is an undemocratic way of doing things, I may add

[B.H.F.C]

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In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.

[green day]

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Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.

Agreed. Dundee Utd will be a welcome addition, but ICT? They are garbage.

[RoYO!]

So when do the rangers get done for bringing the game into disrepute?!

I wonder what could possibly be a fair punishment for this behaviour?!

[Ozyhibby]

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In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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[Joe6-2]

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So when do the rangers get done for bringing the game into disrepute?!

I wonder what could possibly be a fair punishment for this behaviour?!

You really expect them to be punished?

[munchar]

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Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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So we increase to 14 teams for one season, & most probably, Hearts will get 1 or 2 in on big wages & be nowhere near relegation. Meanwhile, Hamilton, Ross Co, St. Mirren etc will once again try & survive, when there will be 2 or maybe 3 going down. Who’s going to vote for that?

[Caversham Green]

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Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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The only problem that solves is the one that HoMFC have imposed on themselves.

[Joe6-2]

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Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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Herts have some nerve, hide, brass neck, f****** cheek!!

[660]

Reconstruction won’t happen you daft old boot give it up

[O'Rourke3]

The 14 team league is unworkable. Theres at least half a dozen teams who wont know whether to expect 18 or 19 home games. For any split to work both halves have to be the same size. 8 teams in the bottom half make many of the games less attractive so despite more games the costs of putting them may be bigger than the receipts.

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[Jim44]

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Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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No ..... that’s only to temporarily save their own necks. I wouldn’t back that crap for a minute, but I would reluctantly accept it, or some other restructure as, a permanent move. Bottom line for me tho’ is the league stops now and they prepare for a new season of the league as it stands ........ well, without Hearts of course. :

[Since452]

Boke inducing Rangers/Hearts love in

[BroxburnHibee]

No another ******* statement!!!

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.

I outlined at length what I thought were the benefits on other threads and got the usual kicking for the length of my posts ... but just for you Before I do start I will admit that this is based on a fantasy land where Scottish football isn't populated by a bunch of greedy / self serving bassas, but instead by 42 clubs all with the overall good of the game at heart and looking out for each other.

1) ... A 14 team league wouldn't IMO dilute the quality of the league ( such as it is ) by any measurable amount, its only two more clubs ... Dundee Utd looked a decent side when they came to ER and I'm sure most of the top half of the championship could give the bottom half of the premiership a run for their money.

2) ... As this situation is highlighting all to well most of our clubs operate hand to mouth. A bigger top division would provide more opportunity to clubs to dine at the top table with the higher income that provides through crowds and prize / TV money .. albeit slightly reduced from a 12 team set up.

3) ... A bigger league would provide for 2 automatic relegation spots and a play off spot. Home and away play offs between 11th & 12th in the premiership and 3rd & 4th in the championship with the championship winners playing the premiership losers in a one off game at a neutral venue ... that would be a pretty exciting event IMO and keep interest in the bottom half boiling over with an 8/6 split after the first home and away round of fixtures, considering practically all of that bottom 8 would probably be in danger of relegation at the split and for most of the rest of the season.

4) ... All that would enable any club relegated a better opportunity not to languish for years in the championship and also provide an avenue back for the likes of Dunfermline or Ayr Utd ... both clubs with more potential than Hamilton or Ross County.

That's the bottom line for me, to help ensure as many of our clubs as possible, and especially the ones trying manfully against the current odds to stay full time, are protected from the worst consequences of relegation ... I can't see how that's a bad thing and if it benefits Hearts in this instance that's a consequence I would grit my teeth and live with because of the overall benefits as I see them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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No, for the simple reason that the purpose of it would be nothing more than to serve Hearts and wouldn't be for the overall good of the game. I've always supported a bigger league because I think it would benefit our game and many of our clubs but that has to be on an ongoing basis, not just to keep Hearts, or any other club for that matter, in the league for a season until they can sort their own mess out .... This has to be for the good of everybody, not just one selfish club.

[A Hi-Bee]

**** the hertz are they no doon yet?

[hhibs]

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Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.

[Aldoo]

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No, for the simple reason that the purpose of it would be nothing more than to serve Hearts and wouldn't be for the overall good of the game. I've always supported a bigger league because I think it would benefit our game and many of our clubs but that has to be on an ongoing basis, not just to keep Hearts, or any other club for that matter, in the league for a season until they can sort their own mess out .... This has to be for the good of everybody, not just one selfish club.

An alternative selfish way to look at reconstruction from a Hibs point of view is to see a permanent move to a 14 team league should ensure Hibs are never relegated again. We have in the past and it’s not too far fetched to think It could happen again where Hibs are relegated in a 12 team format.
Our worst ever team in my lifetime (42 years) went down in the current format and we were still just 10 seconds away from staying up that year, surely 14 teams is enough of a cushion for us to suffer the inevitable dips we will see in the quality of future Hibs teams and not suffer anything worse than a 10th/11th place finish.

[JohnMcM]

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The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.


Two 8's together is 88.

The letter 'H' is the eight letter of the alphabet.

Do that twice and you get HH

Which stands for Heil Hitler

Celtic were formed in 1888


Coincidence?

I think not.

[Ozyhibby]

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An alternative selfish way to look at reconstruction from a Hibs point of view is to see a permanent move to a 14 team league should ensure Hibs are never relegated again. We have in the past and it’s not too far fetched to think It could happen again where Hibs are relegated in a 12 team format.
Our worst ever team in my lifetime (42 years) went down in the current format and we were still just 10 seconds away from staying up that year, surely 14 teams is enough of a cushion for us to suffer the inevitable dips we will see in the quality of future Hibs teams and not suffer anything worse than a 10th/11th place finish.

Nothing is passing a vote that costs the top clubs money. Doesn’t matter how good an idea it is.


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