The generic Hearts thread

[TheHarpy76]

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Eh because in the league you all play the same teams...in the cup you don't.
In the league you play teams home and away...in the cup you don't.

That’s called the luck of the draw.

[TheHarpy76]

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I really don’t think we would, you don’t apply goal difference in a cup which is different than a league so that logic is crazy border line idiotic imo

So how do you decide the competition?

[O'Rourke3]

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In their place, I would be doing the same.If they’re calling it on one competition then they have to call it on them all. Hearts have the best record from the four remaining teams.I know I’m going to get grief for this but it’s how I feel.

Let me get this straight. Hearts have a better cup record than a side in the same league that haven't lost a cup tie in nearly 4 years? I take it this is based on goals scored versus goals against in the current competition? Always a decent ruler to measure from of course. Their 5-0 win at home versus Airdrie being the clincher or simply "we beat the Huns?" I can't recall the last time a team from the Championship beat any team from the Premiership on route to winning the Cup.....

[SMAXXA]

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So how do you decide the competition?

You apply the same logic as the league end it now current positions stand equals no winners with 4 teams left. Or roll the 3 games into next seasons schedule

[Archie70]

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That’s called the luck of the draw.

There's been some belting posts on this site over this years but this is right up there with the best of them.
Absolute classic. Award the cup on the luck of the draw...when it could be finished in 4 days and none of the teams left in are due to enter next seasons competition for about 8 months...classic.

[TheHarpy76]

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Let me get this straight. Hearts have a better cup record than a side in the same league that haven't lost a cup tie in nearly 4 years? I take it this is based on goals scored versus goals against in the current competition? Always a decent ruler to measure from of course. Their 5-0 win at home versus Airdrie being the clincher or simply "we beat the Huns?" I can't recall the last time a team from the Championship beat any team from the Premiership on route to winning the Cup.....

The cup has always been luck of the draw. Why should this conclusion, in these circumstances, be any different?

[TheHarpy76]

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There's been some belting posts on this site over this years but this is right up there with the best of them.
Absolute classic. Award the cup on the luck of the draw...when it could be finished in 4 days and none of the teams left in are due to enter next seasons competition for about 8 months...classic.

No. Award the cup to the remaining team with the best record. Who they played is completely irrelevant. Just as it would be if the cup was played to its conclusion in the normal way.

[Ozyhibby]

The cup will get played. I think European comps will struggle to go ahead next season or will be severely cut back. There will be free midweeks.


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[AFKA5814_Hibs]

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No. Award the cup to the remaining team with the best record. Who they played is completely irrelevant. Just as it would be if the cup was played to its conclusion in the normal way.

Your obviously taken the piss. **** off. 😆

[Broken Gnome]

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In their place, I would be doing the same.

If they’re calling it on one competition then they have to call it on them all. Hearts have the best record from the four remaining teams.

I know I’m going to get grief for this but it’s how I feel.

How do Hearts have the best record of the four remaining teams?

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

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How do Hearts have the best record of the four remaining teams?

He (they) are saying cause they've scored most goals in the competition. It's a wind up. Dont even go there. 🤣

[tamig]

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I’m not joking in the slightest. Why should one competition be decided on performances and not another?

I’m not saying that it should be played out that way. But I can understand why they’re saying it.
Let’s not kid on that we wouldn’t be saying the same.

Its totally different. In the league you are playing your peers. The positions are decided by average points. The cup draw is a lottery. You can’t compare the two.

[O'Rourke3]

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He (they) are saying cause they've scored most goals in the competition. It's a wind up. Dont even go there. 🤣

But they don't.

[TheHarpy76]

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Your obviously taken the piss. **** off. 😆

In what way am I “taking the piss”?

[Broken Gnome]

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He (they) are saying cause they've scored most goals in the competition. It's a wind up. Dont even go there. 🤣

With extra lunacy involved that seems to suggest their seven goals are superior to our 11, gotcha. Not even adding in the replay.

[Michael]

I heard that they're going to draw straws for the Scottish Cup.

[TheHarpy76]

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He (they) are saying cause they've scored most goals in the competition. It's a wind up. Dont even go there. 🤣

Of the four remaining teams. Hearts have the best record. You’re welcome to go check.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

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In what way am I “taking the piss”?

Cause you are. Jeez mate just give it up yet not fooling anyone. 😄

[Broken Gnome]

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Of the four remaining teams. Hearts have the best record. You’re welcome to go check.

What, like they have a goal difference of 7, and ours is 6?

[TheHarpy76]

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Its totally different. In the league you are playing your peers. The positions are decided by average points. The cup draw is a lottery. You can’t compare the two.

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

[TheHarpy76]

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Cause you are. Jeez mate just give it up yet not fooling anyone. 😄

That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?

[tamig]

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Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

Its pish though. Utter nonsense. I don’t think you’ll get too many agreeing with you. I also think any kickbackers proposing this would have to be the most desperate of desperados. Its nonsense.

[Broken Gnome]

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Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.

[O'Rourke3]

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Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

I don't know why I care anymore.the argument(that you get) is that Hearts have played 2 teams in the premiership so have had a hard run. Despite not being able to beat Hibs from the Championship two years in a row? Very logical. I get it, award them the trophy now....

[TheHarpy76]

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No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.

I look at things objectively, not through green tints. I’ve always been that way and it’s caused no end of arguments for me.
I’ve said it twice and I’ll say it for a third time. I’m not saying the cup should be played out that way. But I completely understand them saying it. We would be doing the same. Let’s not deny that.

[1875godsgift]

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Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

[TheHarpy76]

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To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,

[1875godsgift]

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That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,

No worries mate

I'm sure at some point towards the end of the year 3 games could be fitted in over two weekends to decide it.

A Boxing Day Scottish Cup Final would be a good end to the year (as long as we're still in it!)

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

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That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?

In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.

[TheHarpy76]

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In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.

Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.