Coronavirus

[Billy Whizz]

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[wookie70]

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Hope they have not asked for the Government subsidy for furloughed workers as they are clearly working. Crazy the risk they are taking and a shocking example to set for fans who might be going stir crazy

[Pretty Boy]

Can anyone explain how Japan seem to have got this so spectacularly wrong when you compare them to near neighbours South Korea?

They have now declared a state of emergency but some regions are sending children back to school, there are minimal social distancing restrictions in place and still no plan to order people to stay home and they have no widespread testing of note.

It seems an anomaly for that part of the world. Could it have been an attempt to put up a front of normality to try to influence the IOC?

[Billy Whizz]

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Hope they have not asked for the Government subsidy for furloughed workers as they are clearly working. Crazy the risk they are taking and a shocking example to set for fans who might be going stir crazy

They aren’t. Cormack said at the weekend, that their lawyers said advised against furloughing the players
Poor show though, and sets the wrong example

[Pretty Boy]

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'They added that the players followed guidelines regarding social distancing and that police gave them advice about spreading out further across the park.'

That is just bollocks from Aberdeen. The 'guidelines' about social distancing clearly say you shouldn't meet with people from outwith your own household. Unless these players all live together that is just a nonsense response. Why can't people just admit mistakes rather than offering half baked excuses?

[wookie70]

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Can anyone explain how Japan seem to have got this so spectacularly wrong when you compare them to near neighbours South Korea?

They have now declared a state of emergency but some regions are sending children back to school, there are minimal social distancing restrictions in place and still no plan to order people to stay home and they have no widespread testing of note.

It seems an anomaly for that part of the world. Could it have been an attempt to put up a front of normality to try to influence the IOC?

Japan have 92 deaths with a population of roughly twice the UK and their first C19 death a month before the UK. 7 died of C19 in japan yesterday so they look like they will be taking no chances compared to the way we have approached it. The UK government have been far more Kamikaze than their Japanese opposite numbers.

[Bostonhibby]

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Sensible suggestion. Not a chance of it happening.

We have a cabinet formed almost entirely of people whose reason for being there is they toed one line and either were, or became pro brexit. It's debatable if they are actually capable of bringing about anything other than a no deal Brexit, and even more unlikely that they have the flexibility to deal with much else, a couple of months ago it felt like it was their only priority.

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[Pretty Boy]

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Japan have 92 deaths with a population of roughly twice the UK and their first C19 death a month before the UK. 7 died of C19 in japan yesterday so they look like they will be taking no chances compared to the way we have approached it. The UK government have been far more Kamikaze than their Japanese opposite numbers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/japan-poised-to-declare-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus

This suggests they aren't far away from a full blown crisis albeit it's been a slow burner. I read another article last night, which I now can't find, that suggests the ICU in one Tokyo hospital is already at capacity.

Seems the plan thus far has been to rely on their cultural social compliance more than anything.

[Smartie]

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Can anyone explain how Japan seem to have got this so spectacularly wrong when you compare them to near neighbours South Korea?

They have now declared a state of emergency but some regions are sending children back to school, there are minimal social distancing restrictions in place and still no plan to order people to stay home and they have no widespread testing of note.

It seems an anomaly for that part of the world. Could it have been an attempt to put up a front of normality to try to influence the IOC?

I'm quite surprised to hear this.

Purely from memory (and I haven't seen a graph for a while) South Korea were a far outlier with the "flatness of their curve" but at that point Japan weren't a million miles from it. Scotland itself seemed to be, whilst not as "good" as South Korea, one of the better countries at that end of the graphic along with Japan (certainly compared to how the graph looked early on for Italy, Spain, USA etc).

My partner has been to Japan and she has experienced Tokyo rush hour - where the maximum number of people possible are squeezed through the doors of train carriages using poles to cram them in. Looking also at the likes of London, it appears that this virus spreads rapidly in densely populated urban areas that rely on the transit of people in such a way.

[wookie70]

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/japan-poised-to-declare-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus

This suggests they aren't far away from a full blown crisis albeit it's been a slow burner. I read another article last night, which I now can't find, that suggests the ICU in one Tokyo hospital is already at capacity.

Seems the plan thus far has been to rely on their cultural social compliance more than anything.

Perhaps they value citizens more than the UK govt does. I can't imagine their testing regime will be as shambolic as ours and we currently have 27 times more case per capita than they do. If they think it is an emergency then what is it here. If the UK had their numbers we would rightly be heralding how well the Govt and citizens had acted.

[ronaldo7]

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Saw something on TV about people who were deemed “high risk”, never received letters
I know of quite a few family members, and my mums neighbours who should possibly have received them, but never got one
Anyone in the same boat, or does anyone know someone, who got a letter?

A member of my family received one. We got it at the end of March.

8 pages long with many forms of information we can go to for help. Medications, Food, General support with daily living, and Financial help if needed.

In the letter, the annex has a list of people on the very high risk category.


1. Solid organ transplant recipients

2. People with specific cancers.
a) People with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer.
b) People with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma, or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment.
c) People having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer.
d) People having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors.
e) People who have had bone arrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs.

3. People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis , severe asthma and severe COPD.

4. People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infection (such as SCID ,homozygous sickle cell)

5. People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection

6. People who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.

[Iain G]

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Hancock strikes me as one of the least able people ever to reach such a lofty cabinet post.

Along with Gove, Jenrick and most of the rest of the cabinet! I watched Gove getting a gentle grilling on BBC Breakfast this morning and he even seemed to struggle with that!

What did happen to the quality of our politicians in this country?

[Captain Trips]

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Hope they have not asked for the Government subsidy for furloughed workers as they are clearly working. Crazy the risk they are taking and a shocking example to set for fans who might be going stir crazy

20pts deduction

[Pretty Boy]

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Perhaps they value citizens more than the UK govt does. I can't imagine their testing regime will be as shambolic as ours and we currently have 27 times more case per capita than they do. If they think it is an emergency then what is it here. If the UK had their numbers we would rightly be heralding how well the Govt and citizens had acted.

This article is a bit out of date but suggests there doesn't seem to be a coherent testing policy at all in Japan:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/22/national/science-health/japan-coronavirus-testing/#.XoxML1PTVkw

I'm not trying to excuse the UK Govt and their response at all. It's been muddled, there has been flip flopping and it still seems a bit off the cuff. However if you remove South Korea and Germany from the equation (I'm discounting China as they have a level of control over the population others don't) then it's hard to argue many countries have handled this well. Looking at the figures it would appear Russia, Japan and Belgium are potentially at the beginnings of a 'late surge'.

[wookie70]

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This article is a bit out of date but suggests there doesn't seem to be a coherent testing policy at all in Japan:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/22/national/science-health/japan-coronavirus-testing/#.XoxML1PTVkw .

I'm not trying to excuse the UK Govt and their response at all. It's been muddled, there has been flip flopping and it still seems a bit off the cuff. However if you remove South Korea and Germany from the equation (I'm discounting China as they have a level of control over the population others don't) then it's hard to argue many countries have handled this well. Looking at the figures it would appear Russia, Japan and Belgium are potentially at the beginnings of a 'late surge'.

They appear to be even worse with testing than we are. It makes you wonder why they have had so few deaths. I would imagine we will have a few surges after this one too

[marinello59]

Michael Gove in self isolation now as one of his family members has shown symptoms.

[Ozyhibby]

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Michael Gove in self isolation now as one of his family members has shown symptoms.

There will be no one left in charge at this rate.


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[Pretty Boy]

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There will be no one left in charge at this rate.


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Every cloud and all that......

[ronaldo7]

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I know two people who have not yet received one when they clearly should have.

Any idea what the High risk category consists of? The letter we received was, very high risk. Do they have different levels for different ailments?

[marinello59]

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Any idea what the High risk category consists of? The letter we received was, very high risk. Do they have different levels for different ailments?

Reading that list you put up then the categories deemed high risk appear to be different from England’s. Make that one and a half now.
Main thing is that we all take responsibility for those family members we think are in more danger, I don’t suppose we really need a letter for that.

[Hibby Bairn]

Everything was “fine” in Japan until they postponed the Olympics. Then it mysteriously became an emergency and cases started to rise.

[Barney McGrew]

Deaths up again in Spain, but new cases down.

[ronaldo7]

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Reading that list you put up then the categories deemed high risk appear to be different from England’s. Make that one and a half now.
Main thing is that we all take responsibility for those family members we think are in more danger, I don’t suppose we really need a letter for that.

I thought their might have been different levels of ailments for those needing to be contacted. Can't see anything on the SG website other that the letter we got.

Take care. Only 10 weeks to go.

[marinello59]

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I thought their might have been different levels of ailments for those needing to be contacted. Can't see anything on the SG website other that the letter we got.

Take care. Only 10 weeks to go.

Possibly there is.
Aye, take care there. At least 10 weeks to go...... ****!!!!!

[JeMeSouviens]

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Saw something on TV about people who were deemed “high risk”, never received letters
I know of quite a few family members, and my mums neighbours who should possibly have received them, but never got one
Anyone in the same boat, or does anyone know someone, who got a letter?

At the time the letters were sent out, they did say some people who should might not get them and if you knew you were in one of the high risk categories and didn't get one, you should contact your GP.

Having said that, one of my neighbours only got hers on Sunday, so I guess they're still coming?

[Billy Whizz]

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I thought their might have been different levels of ailments for those needing to be contacted. Can't see anything on the SG website other that the letter we got.

Take care. Only 10 weeks to go.

Stick in Ronnie and Co, see you in the East sometime

[JeMeSouviens]

This is reported in England, but will no doubt be the same here:

"Coronavirus: 'High risk' list misses off thousands of people"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52123446

[silverhibee]

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Saw something on TV about people who were deemed “high risk”, never received letters
I know of quite a few family members, and my mums neighbours who should possibly have received them, but never got one
Anyone in the same boat, or does anyone know someone, who got a letter?

My missus is in the high risk category and didn't receive a letter, she did get a call from her doctor though telling her what to do.

[JimBHibees]

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They aren’t. Cormack said at the weekend, that their lawyers said advised against furloughing the players
Poor show though, and sets the wrong example

Has it been confirmed Hibs have furloughed players. Seemed strange the Aberdeen owner saying that though obviously only going on advice. Derek Mcinnes confirmed later in the show the players were using GPS and the club were able to monitor what they were doing. Maybe that was the reason.

[ronaldo7]

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Stick in Ronnie and Co, see you in the East sometime