The generic Hearts thread

[munchar]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

The only thing the players can be blamed for is under achieving. They only signed Boyce 2 months ago. Didn’t hear fans mention his wages then. Is it his fault a few weeks later, a contract he’s signed in good faith, is now being halved or ripped up? I’m sure if Hearts had conducted their business professionally, the players may have worked along with them. But contacting agents after threatening them with the sack, saying there’s funds for transfers! Would any fan in that position help the club out. No danger. The blame is 💯% the clubs.

[007]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

Sounds like the fans' attitude towards the players is as bad as the club's.

When football restarts I can't see many of the playing for the jersey.

Also, having a reputation for treating your employees like sh¡te isn't good for recruitment either.

https://twitter.com/PFAScotland/stat...164430848?s=19

[Eyrie]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

I wonder how those supporters would feel if their employers took that approach to their salaries.

[Hibs4185]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

Someone’s even mentioned the First World War and how the players did the right thing by volunteering for the war.

Proper siege mentality across there. Absolute roasters

[Skol]

The good news is that if the season resumes the players will be so disengaged, the chances of them picking up enough of the remaining 24 points is practically zero. They need to pray for a void season and reconstruction

[A Hi-Bee]

All it needs is for donkey doncaster or whoever to make the phone call, or just send them a text, tell them they are doon and end of, problem solved, as far as football is concerned, then the payouts can begin.
Gie the hertz an extra tenner or so for Standal to stay in Germany a bit longer, while leevain sorts things out for them and the 400,000.

[Tug Wilson]

The Hearts fans are only reacting to the situation they find themselves in.

If Covid 19 had come along when Butcher was destroying Hibs a lot of us on here would be calling for players and staff to be binned.

What would Rod have done?

However, what Hibernian Football Club have actually done is paint their neighbours into a corner.

By going to the players and discussing the issues with them like adults and coming to a sensible agreed approach.

No players have been threatened with the sack or loss of wages.

Hibs have come out with assurances that they will only hire new players once the wage deferral period is over.

Players can rest assured that the club is working with them not against them.

By comparison, Hearts look amateur, cold hearted and heavy handed.

[The 90+2]

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The Hearts fans are only reacting to the situation they find themselves in.

If Covid 19 had come along when Butcher was destroying Hibs a lot of us on here would be calling for players and staff to be binned.

What would Rod have done?

However, what Hibernian Football Club have actually done is paint their neighbours into a corner.

By going to the players and discussing the issues with them like adults and coming to a sensible agreed approach.

No players have been threatened with the sack or loss of wages.

Hibs have come out with assurances that they will only hire new players once the wage deferral period is over.

Players can rest assured that the club is working with them not against them.

By comparison, Hearts look amateur, cold hearted and heavy handed.

Top post and agree with start to finish. Gives a bit of perspective too.

[cocteautwin]

They’ve piled through £28m of outside cash in the past few years. If they can’t afford to pay their players now they should go in to Administration.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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The Hearts fans are only reacting to the situation they find themselves in.

If Covid 19 had come along when Butcher was destroying Hibs a lot of us on here would be calling for players and staff to be binned.

What would Rod have done?

However, what Hibernian Football Club have actually done is paint their neighbours into a corner.

By going to the players and discussing the issues with them like adults and coming to a sensible agreed approach.

No players have been threatened with the sack or loss of wages.

Hibs have come out with assurances that they will only hire new players once the wage deferral period is over.

Players can rest assured that the club is working with them not against them.

By comparison, Hearts look amateur, cold hearted and heavy handed.

It’s all about context / circumstance ...

The Jambos hiring profile on terms of quality and duration (remember Larreya Kingston anyone? - no lessons learned)

Versus Hibs hiring profile - targeted loans in certain positions - minimising risks at an advantageous time.

Wonder if we’ll see the demise of the longtime contract now....

[EI255]

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His 50% reduction will be a lot more than most of the squads actual wages

He's worth every penny right enough

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[EI255]

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Total donkey.

They're recidivist overspenders expecting to be repeatedly bailed out.

Its blatant cheating. If the likes of Hamilton or St mirren started lavishly vastly overspending outwith their means there would immediately be journalists all over it with no one sympathasing saying 'its not their fault'.

Naismith is a complete and utter moron.

Naismith is also finished. Must be like a very heavy shackle around the Hearts bookkeeper's neck

Both he and Stendal are syphoning away those direct debits very nicely

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[EI255]

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Unbelievable that they have a positive press story coming from this disgrace. They have friends in the media who manage to make them look good even when their actions are shameful.

Always angers me too how the media - mainly the BBC - seem desperate for Hearts not to fail, not to go bust, not to be relegated etc....They get the positive press other clubs are not afforded.

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[007]

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Naismith is also finished. Must be like a very heavy shackle around the Hearts bookkeeper's neck

Both he and Stendal are syphoning away those direct debits very nicely

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Some think he was just using Hearts as a means to stay fit for Scotland games and was regularly out with niggles at times there were no Scotland games coming up. If that's true then he's kind off stuffed with the Euro Championships put back a year. He'll be almost 35 by the time of the finals.

[EI255]

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...mpression=true


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For once, an outstanding piece by a red top rag! Every word so true.

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[Kojock]

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Naismith is also finished. Must be like a very heavy shackle around the Hearts bookkeeper's neck

Both he and Stendal are syphoning away those direct debits very nicely

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I would imagine Naismith collected full wages during his lengthy injury spell(s). He would have some nerve not accepting a pay cut now.

[Onion]

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For once, an outstanding piece by a red top rag! Every word so true.

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...football’s equivalent of the clown with a garage full of bog rolls and dried pasta.

[mutley]

Anyone hear any little snippets after their 5pm deadline to accept/reject last night?

[Onion]

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The good news is that if the season resumes the players will be so disengaged, the chances of them picking up enough of the remaining 24 points is practically zero. They need to pray for a void season and reconstruction

Not convinced. Hearts have an uncanny knack of raising their game when shoved into a corner. Press are starting to turn against the club for their handling of the CV19 problem. In their minds, Hearts are probably already resigned to being relegated, and St M, Hamilton are breathing a sigh of relief. If the SFA decide that the season must be played out, I know which team's going to be most motivated.

Just another reason why the SFA must end the season now. Hearts fully deserve their place in the Championship and should not be denied.

[Barney McGrew]

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Anyone hear any little snippets after their 5pm deadline to accept/reject last night?

The SPFA statement saying they’re now involved would suggest it’s been a reject from a number of them.

[AltheHibby]

Just had a link from yesterday's Herald pop up in my feed.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...gation-ruling/

[Keith_M]

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Just had a link from yesterday's Herald pop up in my feed.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...gation-ruling/

The headline is misleading

"Hearts told to quit the SPFL if they can't accept relegation ruling"


It's actually just the point of view of Stewart Gilmour, the former St Mirren chairman

[bingo70]

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The SPFA statement saying they’re now involved would suggest it’s been a reject from a number of them.

Did Hearts not issue a statement in response to that?

Missed opportunity for them if not to pretend it was amicable discussions and were all working together to find a solution.

[Biggie]

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The headline is misleading

"Hearts told to quit the SPFL if they can't accept relegation ruling"


It's actually just the point of view of Stewart Gilmour, the former St Mirren chairman

Haha I thought it must be an April fool joke....great wind up

[Skol]

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Not convinced. Hearts have an uncanny knack of raising their game when shoved into a corner. Press are starting to turn against the club for their handling of the CV19 problem. In their minds, Hearts are probably already resigned to being relegated, and St M, Hamilton are breathing a sigh of relief. If the SFA decide that the season must be played out, I know which team's going to be most motivated.

Just another reason why the SFA must end the season now. Hearts fully deserve their place in the Championship and should not be denied.

Difference now is the fans have lost faith in the players. Thats a big change.

[mixumatosis]

Apologies if this has been posted upthread.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52133983

Rugby Championship down South have promoted Newcastle and relegated Yorkshire based on what one would assume is essentially a points per game formula.

Different ball game obviously, but they must be confident the decision would hold up in court.

[Greenworld]

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Apologies if this has been posted upthread.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52133983

Rugby Championship down South have promoted Newcastle and relegated Yorkshire based on what one would assume is essentially a points per game formula.

Different ball game obviously, but they must be confident the decision would hold up in court.

Belgium have called time on their leuges and current standings applied hopefully Scotland follows suit bye bye jambos

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[bingo70]

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Belgium have called time on their leuges and current standings applied hopefully Scotland follows suit bye bye jambos

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Not relegation though, they’ve only declared the current winner as champions. They’ve still to decide what happens to the teams at the bottom.

[Peevemor]

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Belgium have called time on their leuges and current standings applied hopefully Scotland follows suit bye bye jambos

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Relegation still hasn't been decided.

[GreenCastle]

Rugby doing a “best played formula”.

Interesting they didn’t do this with the women’s league ?

Speaking with someone involved in the English Championship top 2 he said only way they play behind doors is if the club are in a hotel for 8 weeks and go direct to stadium and back to play games. Can’t see this happening - players wouldn’t be away from families that long etc.

They still want to finish season - it 100% won’t be null and void it’s either..

Finish on current standings..
Finish season later on...

The longer this goes on standings makes more sense to avoid knock on effect of changing other pre planned calendars.

Don’t know anywhere which has done reconstruction yet to league table - so if Scotland does this it’s a real cop out.