The generic Hearts thread

[Lee Marvin]

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Hearts could be in big big trouble if they cannot cut the wage bill or envoke article 12. They literally never learn

[G B Young]

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Hadn't realised Naismith was the only player to have accepted the wage cut. So much for Budge's guff about the players rallying round.

[147lothian]

So there's going to be trouble if Budge tries cutting wages then signing new players in August.

A back track will leave players unhappy that she tried it on, no easy solution for them now, I wonder if some of our neighbours will now realise that Budge is not the business brain some have cranked her up to be

[Waxy]

You get the feeling Budge thinks shes untouchable.
(And looking at her these days.......,,Nevermind)
Its pretty much like they’ll do what they want and get away with it.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Just about every club apart from HMFC is apparently using the Furlough scheme to ensure their less well paid staff and players are getting 80% of wages guaranteed and agreeing deferals with their better paid "stars"

The only reason Dr."Failure to Properly" Budge(t) is trying the slash and burn approach is that she is being opportunistic to dump the dross, they are absolutely penniless and the "benefactors" managed funds have taken a 60% hit in recent weeks and dont have the readies to hand.

It will just take one cash strapped business desperate for the cash to keep their own business afloat to hit the red button and pursue compulsary admin action.

[Ozyhibby]

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Hadn't realised Naismith was the only player to have accepted the wage cut. So much for Budge's guff about the players rallying round.

Some team captain. Instead of working with the rest of the players he goes public with the ‘look at me, I’m a multi millionaire, I can afford to take a pay cut’, which immediately makes the rest of the squad look bad in the eyes of the fans. Leadership? Not in my opinion.


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[Billy Whizz]

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Just about every club apart from HMFC is apparently using the Furlough scheme to ensure their less well paid staff and players are getting 80% of wages guaranteed and agreeing deferals with their better paid "stars"

The only reason Dr."Failure to Properly" Budge(t) is trying the slash and burn approach is that she is being opportunistic to dump the dross, they are absolutely penniless and the "benefactors" managed funds have taken a 60% hit in recent weeks and dont have the readies to hand.

It will just take one cash strapped business desperate for the cash to keep their own business afloat to hit the red button and pursue compulsary admin action.

I have a wee bit of sympathy for Hearts fans. Guys on £6k per week digging in for full pay, when a lot of their fans will be in a financial crisis soon, if not already

[where'stheslope]

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I have a wee bit of sympathy for Hearts fans. Guys on £6k per week digging in for full pay, when a lot of their fans will be in a financial crisis soon, if not already

Every teams fans will be in the same boat soon if not already!
Just keep watching the back pages, Celtic are saying they can't keep paying salaries?
If they can't afford it, the rest of us have no chance!!!!!

[munchar]

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I have a wee bit of sympathy for Hearts fans. Guys on £6k per week digging in for full pay, when a lot of their fans will be in a financial crisis soon, if not already

You having a laugh? Sympathy?
Didn’t hear any Hearts fans pointing out that Naismith & Boyces wages were excessive. Think it was more like we’re signing players on big contracts when Hibs are scraping bye on loans & cheap options. No, the Hearts fans, as has been shown over the years, will gloat about these things until the 💩 hits the fans. Still celebrating their tainted success. Live by the sword, die bye the sword if you ask me. They deserve everything coming to them!!

[Real Emerald]

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You having a laugh? Sympathy?
Didn’t hear any Hearts fans pointing out that Naismith & Boyces wages were excessive. Think it was more like we’re signing players on big contracts when Hibs are scraping bye on loans & cheap options. No, the Hearts fans, as has been shown over the years, will gloat about these things until the 💩 hits the fans. Still celebrating their tainted success. Live by the sword, die bye the sword if you ask me. They deserve everything coming to them!!

100%, their big team “natural order’ pish is coming back to haunt them. Their fans now hoping their players leave, the very players they were handing huge long contracts to not long ago and were hailed as the greatest of signings who would rip up the Scottish league. I hope that other clubs see through their scheming dirty tricks and sends them down. They’ve won 4 game this season, FOUR! Two of these games against us and one against Rangers. They obviously get up for these games but couldn’t touch the rest of the bottom sox. They DESERVE to go down or go bust again for their greed and arrogance.

[Waxy]

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I have a wee bit of sympathy for Hearts fans. Guys on £6k per week digging in for full pay, when a lot of their fans will be in a financial crisis soon, if not already

What about the list of creditors?

[speedy_gonzales]

The Duncans are not liking this social distancing

[grunt]

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The Duncans are not liking this social distancing

This is funny!

[Rumble de Thump]

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100%, their big team “natural order’ pish is coming back to haunt them. Their fans now hoping their players leave, the very players they were handing huge long contracts to not long ago and were hailed as the greatest of signings who would rip up the Scottish league. I hope that other clubs see through their scheming dirty tricks and sends them down. They’ve won 4 game this season, FOUR! Two of these games against us and one against Rangers. They obviously get up for these games but couldn’t touch the rest of the bottom sox. They DESERVE to go down or go bust again for their greed and arrogance.

Two of them were won with deflected shots.

[Carheenlea]

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Two of them were won with deflected shots.

This statement just screams Hearts. If you read that without knowing who the team being discussed was you would wager Hearts every time.

Never known a team to score as many deflections or generally scrappy goals as Hearts.

[munchar]

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100%, their big team “natural order’ pish is coming back to haunt them. Their fans now hoping their players leave, the very players they were handing huge long contracts to not long ago and were hailed as the greatest of signings who would rip up the Scottish league. I hope that other clubs see through their scheming dirty tricks and sends them down. They’ve won 4 game this season, FOUR! Two of these games against us and one against Rangers. They obviously get up for these games but couldn’t touch the rest of the bottom sox. They DESERVE to go down or go bust again for their greed and arrogance.

Arrogance of the highest order!
I’ve not heard even ONE Hearts fan saying they’ve been spending cash like Monopoly money. They have NO bank debt, with £100,000 a month on donations coming in, & after ONE cancelled game, they’re asking for 50% wage cuts. A blatant ploy to empty their under achievers who were hailed as saviours. Living within their means? Ffs still can’t see any of their fans questioning their methods. Levein still at the club. As much as it’s entertaining for us, I can’t believe there’s nobody cringing over there at what’s happening. Let it continue please.

[Joe6-2]

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The Duncans are not liking this social distancing

😂😂😂

[Billy Whizz]

https://twitter.com/pfascotland/stat...164430848?s=21

[Ozyhibby]

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https://twitter.com/pfascotland/stat...164430848?s=21

I’m assuming that no agreement was reached by tonight’s 5pm deadline given that the PFA put that out after it passed?


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[Billy Whizz]

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I’m assuming that no agreement was reached by tonight’s 5pm deadline given that the PFA put that out after it passed?


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I’d agree with that summary Ozy

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

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https://twitter.com/pfascotland/stat...164430848?s=21

Exactly the wording in the EEN article

[lapsedhibee]

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The Duncans are not liking this social distancing

[tamig]

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You having a laugh? Sympathy?
Didn’t hear any Hearts fans pointing out that Naismith & Boyces wages were excessive. Think it was more like we’re signing players on big contracts when Hibs are scraping bye on loans & cheap options. No, the Hearts fans, as has been shown over the years, will gloat about these things until the 💩 hits the fans. Still celebrating their tainted success. Live by the sword, die bye the sword if you ask me. They deserve everything coming to them!!

Well said sir. Absolutely correct.

[007]

They keep going on about how league reconstruction is fairest with Dundee Utd and Inverness promoted and no relegation. They say there's 24 points to play for and they're "only" 4 points behind 2nd bottom (the playoff spot).

They've got a cheek dismissing the other teams in the Championship who have just as much a claim on being in the Premiership next season as Hearts do.

Dundee and Ayr are already in the play off spots and are only 4 and 5 points behind Inverness with 27 points left to play for so it would be just as unfair to tell them they're in the Championship next season.

Hearts are averaging 0.75 points per game so at that rate they'll only get 6 points from the remaining 8 games (appreciate they'll be playing more bottom 6 sides however they seem to do better against top 6).

Dundee and Ayr are averaging 1.5 points per game so at that rate they'll take 13 or 14 points from their 9 games so it seems a lot more feasible for one of them to do any overtaking than for Hearts to.

I'd love it if reconstruction was the route taken with top 3 up from the Championship and bottom 1 down from the Premiership (though I know this won't happen).

[Waxy]

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The Duncans are not liking this social distancing

Thats hilarious.

[ScottB]

I don’t get it, if things were super bad for them, why not use the government furlough scheme that’s available? Certainly for the staff if not the players.

It smacks of them using this crisis as an excuse to try and punt as many players as possible, which is pretty shameful behaviour by any measure.

[Real Emerald]

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They keep going on about how league reconstruction is fairest with Dundee Utd and Inverness promoted and no relegation. They say there's 24 points to play for and they're "only" 4 points behind 2nd bottom (the playoff spot).

They've got a cheek dismissing the other teams in the Championship who have just as much a claim on being in the Premiership next season as Hearts do.

Dundee and Ayr are already in the play off spots and are only 4 and 5 points behind Inverness with 27 points left to play for so it would be just as unfair to tell them they're in the Championship next season.

Hearts are averaging 0.75 points per game so at that rate they'll only get 6 points from the remaining 8 games (appreciate they'll be playing more bottom 6 sides however they seem to do better against top 6).

Dundee and Ayr are averaging 1.5 points per game so at that rate they'll take 13 or 14 points from their 9 games so it seems a lot more feasible for one of them to do any overtaking than for Hearts to.

I'd love it if reconstruction was the route taken with top 3 up from the Championship and bottom 1 down from the Premiership (though I know this won't happen).

They’ve as much chance losing a play off too. If it was St Mirren, Hamilton or Ross County (or us obviously) sitting 4 points adrift and them safe there would be no talk of reconstruction or playing out the season by them. Absolutely no chance! They can’t even make a statistical case for them getting out of it, even though they’ve spent millions more than almost all of their other bottom basement friends trying to be the big team. Why should the rest of the top league suffer an ill thought out league reconstruction to save the worst team in the league. I’ve bought my ST but will think twice if reconstruction happens under these circumstances.

[CloudSquall]

Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

[The 90+2]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

Absolute criminal but nothing unexpected from a team and support with no morals.

[The Modfather]

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Had a quick look over at umpteenpointsback and the vast majority are blaming the players and demanding they are all sacked.


Anyone that has sympathy for them should have a quick look over there.

It’s shameful that Hearts are looking at profiteering from a global pandemic and trying to use it as an excuse to get rid of the bloated and over budget squad they have assembled.

Hibs, and everyone else, have the same income challenges as Hearts. It was also widely accepted that we need a clear out and rebuild of the squad if we’re to begin challenging for the top 4 consistently. Yet, here we are trying to honour the contracts the players signed in good faith.