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[Frankhfc]

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Unsurprisingly, it appears that the conspiracy theorists are incorrect...

https://m.medicalxpress.com/news/202...cientists.html

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Having read the piece carefully it isn't conclusive instead its based upon theorising and likelihoods. In saying that we don't have any substantive opposing evidence either so I'm keeping an open mind until there is decisive information from authoritative sources.

[Liberal Hibby]

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Having read the piece carefully it isn't conclusive instead its based upon theorising and likelihoods. In saying that we don't have any substantive opposing evidence either so I'm keeping an open mind until there is decisive information from authoritative sources.

Not sure you read the same article:

"These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2" said Andersen.

"They conclude that the virus is the product of natural evolution," Goulding adds, "ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering."

It's about as clear as scientists can ever be that this is not some lab engineered virus by some evil superpower - what they are not sure about is whether it went from another species (possibly via a further species like SARS and MERS) or it mutated within a single human and then spread out.

It conclusively debunks the tin foil hat theorist further up this thread.

But more importanlty are Hearts relegated yet?

[mjhibby]

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While some might have a little bit of sympathy for Hearts if they're automatically relegated, its entirely incumbent upon the SPFL board to act in good faith and for Scottish Football's greater good. If its overall in the best interests to call the season completed as is then that's the course of action that the board must decide upon.

Hearts have every right to defend its own interests, however, they will ultimately have to accept the higher authorities judgment call on behalf of all of the clubs not just Hearts.

There is provision in the sfa rules for judgements that are outside normal procedures being final and as such Hertz will have to accept it as they are signed up to it. Legal challenges would be a waste of time and would only make their loss far bigger. The season can't be null and void as it would be a real legal nightmare for everybody claiming money back. The season will finish as is with clubs like Aston villa given a sweetener to accept it. There is only the two stark choices if as is likely we can't finish the season. I do have a small smidgeon of sympathy for the jambos but a decision will have to be made sonetime and whatever that decision is it will upset quite a few clubs. ***** happens and in the general scheme of things with folks lives in danger this isn't high on the priority list.

[cocteautwin]

Can anyone tell me if I was hearing things or did Ann Budge say in one of her recent statements that she's asked players not to take wages in April?

Surely being unable to pay the players is the very definition of a football club being insolvent?

[Aldo]

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Can anyone tell me if I was hearing things or did Ann Budge say in one of her recent statements that she's asked players not to take wages in April?

Surely being unable to pay the players is the very definition of a football club being insolvent?

She did say something along those lines and that some staff may have to take unpaid leave. O and asked fans to donate money.


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[cocteautwin]

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She did say something along those lines and that some staff may have to take unpaid leave. O and asked fans to donate money.


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I wonder if they have enough money to pay their NI and VAT bills in the coming weeks? Heriot-Watt will be quaking in their boots. More fool them if they've allowed HMFC to rack up a big bill again.

[CentreLine]

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I wonder if they have enough money to pay their NI and VAT bills in the coming weeks? Heriot-Watt will be quaking in their boots. More fool them if they've allowed HMFC to rack up a big bill again.

It’s all fine. Benny Factor will pay for any shortfall

[Ozyhibby]

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Can anyone tell me if I was hearing things or did Ann Budge say in one of her recent statements that she's asked players not to take wages in April?

Surely being unable to pay the players is the very definition of a football club being insolvent?

I think she said a couple of players had offered to not take wages but they don’t do that unless they have made clear to them they are in trouble.
Same with staff taking unpaid leave.


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[Springbank]

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I wonder if they have enough money to pay their NI and VAT bills in the coming weeks? Heriot-Watt will be quaking in their boots. More fool them if they've allowed HMFC to rack up a big bill again.

Heriot Watt did seem "overly lenient" or "overly generous" in their forgiveness of their tax-dodging tenants the first time Hearts went into Administration. In fact, some described HWU as being close to being complicit in Hearts fraud & lack of sporting integrity.

They might be about to find out about leopards and spots...

[jacomo]

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Having read the piece carefully it isn't conclusive instead its based upon theorising and likelihoods. In saying that we don't have any substantive opposing evidence either so I'm keeping an open mind until there is decisive information from authoritative sources.

This is how science works. Please don’t fall down the rabbit hole.

[Not In The Know]

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Heriot Watt did seem "overly lenient" or "overly generous" in their forgiveness of their tax-dodging tenants the first time Hearts went into Administration. In fact, some described HWU as being close to being complicit in Hearts fraud & lack of sporting integrity.

They might be about to find out about leopards and spots...

Edinburgh rugby should move in.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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I dont think the govt has the right to "cancel the season" and I also think they will have many more pressing and important issues than settling arguments in football.

By the end of this week emergency legislation will be in place which will give the government the legal right to do what ever it wants and for a period of up to two years.

[cocteautwin]

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It’s all fine. Benny Factor will pay for any shortfall

You gotta think that the benefactor(s) must have taken a serious dent to their finances in the past few weeks. I’d imagine Budge is needing to pump back in (as a directors loan) the £2m she took out from FoH.

[Joe6-2]

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Heriot Watt did seem "overly lenient" or "overly generous" in their forgiveness of their tax-dodging tenants the first time Hearts went into Administration. In fact, some described HWU as being close to being complicit in Hearts fraud & lack of sporting integrity.

They might be about to find out about leopards and spots...

Have they allowed them to use facilities again without receiving ongoing payments??

[MrSmith]

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That article says nothing that supports your unhinged opinions.

Oh unhinged! nice one!

[jacomo]

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Oh unhinged! nice one!

Accurate though. There is zero evidence for your opinions, and growing evidence for the hypothesis that it has come from another mammal.

Further research will no doubt be published in the coming weeks, all available to scrutiny by the global scientific community.

[Brightside]

Isn’t there another forum for this conspiracy stuff? Cmon guys.

[Oscar T Grouch]

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Oh unhinged! nice one!

Will you and your daft theory’s please shift themselves to the holy ground? This is a thread about the gorgie puddle drinkers. .

[cocteautwin]

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Isn’t there another forum for this conspiracy stuff? Cmon guys.

Indeed. Us non-scientists have more important things to discuss - like a rival football team going bankrupt in slow motion

[Jim44]

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Heriot Watt did seem "overly lenient" or "overly generous" in their forgiveness of their tax-dodging tenants the first time Hearts went into Administration. In fact, some described HWU as being close to being complicit in Hearts fraud & lack of sporting integrity.

They might be about to find out about leopards and spots...

Don’t get me started on this one. As far as I understand it, Herriot Watt University is/was a publicly funded institution so the barstewards were actually screwing Joe Public. Someone might be able to correct me, if I’ve got that one wrong .......... I still won’t retract it or apologise.

[Ozyhibby]

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Don’t get me started on this one. As far as I understand it, Herriot Watt University is/was a publicly funded institution so the barstewards were actually screwing Joe Public. Someone might be able to correct me, if I’ve got that one wrong .......... I still won’t retract it or apologise.

Pretty sure universities are private but their customers are publicly funded, if that makes sense. And they certainly know how to get their hands on give money when they can.


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[FilipinoHibs]

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You gotta think that the benefactor(s) must have taken a serious dent to their finances in the past few weeks. I’d imagine Budge is needing to pump back in (as a directors loan) the £2m she took out from FoH.

She has also loaned them a further £1.9 million and her brother's firm looks to be owed £750,000 for completed work on the stadium. She is saying into today's press, they have lost £1 million in income they were expecting in the coming weeks from home games and the cup semi.

[eastmainsmsh]

They are all arguing about relegation Budge Levein signings and Stendl imagine what it.will be like when the foundation takes over the club comedy gold at it's best

[Biggie]

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She has also loaned them a further £1.9 million and her brother's firm looks to be owed £750,000 for completed work on the stadium. She is saying into today's press, they have lost £1 million in income they were expecting in the coming weeks from home games and the cup semi.

Ah so at least something good has come out of this 😎

[cocteautwin]

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She has also loaned them a further £1.9 million and her brother's firm looks to be owed £750,000 for completed work on the stadium. She is saying into today's press, they have lost £1 million in income they were expecting in the coming weeks from home games and the cup semi.

Are those not old numbers?

- She/BIDCO loaned them £1.9m in total back in 2018. I don't think she's loaned them anything else since although it's looking like she'll have to make a new loan to keep HMFC afloat for the rest of the season (if the benefactor doesn't increase the £4m they would also have had to put in after 30 June 2019).

- The amount due to JB Contracts at 30 June 2019 was £485k but one presumes this has been paid off in the past 9 months since the year end.

Have you heard something different from above? All my numbers are accurate, from HMFC accounts.

[cocteautwin]

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She has also loaned them a further £1.9 million and her brother's firm looks to be owed £750,000 for completed work on the stadium. She is saying into today's press, they have lost £1 million in income they were expecting in the coming weeks from home games and the cup semi.

This is why I'm thinking that they must be in serious financial trouble if they aren't able to come up with some significant short term funding (like in the next 2 weeks or so), either from Budge herself or from the benefactor.

[CockneyRebel]

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Isn’t there another forum for this conspiracy stuff? Cmon guys.

I bet the American survivalists in their well stocked bunkers are having a big jolly up just now.

[Biggie]

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Are those not old numbers?

- She/BIDCO loaned them £1.9m in total back in 2018. I don't think she's loaned them anything else since although it's looking like she'll have to make a new loan to keep HMFC afloat for the rest of the season (if the benefactor doesn't increase the £4m they would also have had to put in after 30 June 2019).

- The amount due to JB Contracts at 30 June 2019 was £485k but one presumes this has been paid off in the past 9 months since the year end.

Have you heard something different from above? All my numbers are accurate, from HMFC accounts.

Stop pissing on our parade 😂

[Biggie]

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This is why I'm thinking that they must be in serious financial trouble if they aren't able to come up with some significant short term funding (like in the next 2 weeks or so), either from Budge herself or from the benefactor.

Better....

[Jim44]

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Pretty sure universities are private but their customers are publicly funded, if that makes sense. And they certainly know how to get their hands on give money when they can.


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I’m not so sure and there is room to assume they depend highly on public funding.

https://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/pol...-explained.pdf