The generic Hearts thread

[ShadesLongThrow]

I wonder if the mysterious benefactor has taken a serious haircut with the crash in the markets over the last couple of weeks. They may not be in any position to prop them up again which is why Budge is looking so worried and saying this stuff.

[hibeerealist]

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If this is true then I'm starting to believe Karma really does exist

Maybe it finally does HH

[hibeerealist]

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She really did look broken and ill. All joking aside I genuinely hope she's OK.

Don't wish her any ill will either.

However, the confident manner has disappeared and she really did look wiped out. She knows THEM will turn on her and she, along with Potter, will get the blame for relegation.

[cocteautwin]

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Hearts are going down.

Down a league. And down the pan (financially).

[jacomo]

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Boy on Kickback has all the info on what's happening with thee league this year and next. Seems legit 👀

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...title-amended/

Yeah and then they are going to give Hearts a medal for being the Bestest and there will be a party on the plaza and Pele will bake a cake for Ann and everything!

[jacomo]

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I wonder if the mysterious benefactor has taken a serious haircut with the crash in the markets over the last couple of weeks. They may not be in any position to prop them up again which is why Budge is looking so worried and saying this stuff.

Well the Harry Potter studio tour has closed, so...

[Hibs4185]

The SPFL were holding discussion with clubs this week. Budge releasing an interview like that must mean she’s been told hearts being relegated is the plan. If they said we are looking to finish the season later in the year, then there is no way she would give this interview.

Bye bye ya cheating fuds

[jacomo]

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Don't wish her any ill will either.

However, the confident manner has disappeared and she really did look wiped out. She knows THEM will turn on her and she, along with Potter, will get the blame for relegation.

I don’t wish her any ill of course, but she really needs to take her medicine here.

Don’t talk about ‘sporting integrity’ and then propose a hasty league reconstruction to get yourselves out of trouble.

[007]

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I don’t wish her any ill of course, but she really needs to take her medicine here.

Don’t talk about ‘sporting integrity’ and then propose a hasty league reconstruction to get yourselves out of trouble.

Likewise, don't wish her any ill will personally. She's been paid back so I don't know why she didn't just complete the transfer of ownership as well and get the help out of Dodge. She probably now feels that she can't now leave in the current circumstances and is regretting not leaving as soon as she was repaid.

[PatHead]

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Yeah and then they are going to give Hearts a medal for being the Bestest and there will be a party on the plaza and Pele will bake a cake for Ann and everything!

Not a chance of baking a cake. There is no flour in the shops.

They really are screwed this time.

**** them.

[007]

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Yeah and then they are going to give Hearts a medal for being the Bestest and there will be a party on the plaza and Pele will bake a cake for Ann and everything!

Hope he's not had any of this before he meets her:

https://images.app.goo.gl/Q7tswi853DQN4SN48

[Garymcl]

What was the season that our pink chums escaped relegation and I think it was Dundee we’re the club that got done by them for some obscure reason

[007]

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What was the season that our pink chums escaped relegation and I think it was Dundee we’re the club that got done by them for some obscure reason

Not sure. Vaguely remember a season both of them featured prominently near the end. Mid 80's I think it was. 🤔🙄

[jacomo]

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Likewise, don't wish her any ill will personally. She's been paid back so I don't know why she didn't just complete the transfer of ownership as well and get the help out of Dodge. She probably now feels that she can't now leave in the current circumstances and is regretting not leaving as soon as she was repaid.

They may well have announced the transfer of ownership by now were it not for the Coronavirus.

Of course, she wants to stay on as chair/ceo, which looks more baffling by the day.

[007]

Ann Budge's interview and the Rangers statement suggests they know which way the decision is heading and they don't like it, which is why they are getting their counter arguments into the public domain before the decision is announced. To let the fans know that they've not agreed to it.

[Ozyhibby]

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Ann Budge's interview and the Rangers statement suggests they know which way the decision is heading and they don't like it, which is why they are getting their counter arguments into the public domain before the decision is announced. To let the fans know that they've not agreed to it.

That’s how it reads to me. There won’t be any legal challenge. The SPFL will act within their rules which basically allows them to do what they want. Fact is that this decision suits the majority of clubs so it will happen.


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[CraigHibee]

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Just watched the BBC interview with A Budge she looks totally wiped out, the news she has been given (relegation) has shattered her she is almost in tears when speaking. Not the emotion of a person who MIGHT get bad news (ie relegation) over next week or two, she HAS been told!

she looks like she's just come off a 3 week bender, she doesn't seem that confident either

i hope they drop

[poolman]

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She really did look broken and ill. All joking aside I genuinely hope she's OK.

Bollox, she's always looked like that, shrivelled up baboons arse

[ScottB]

Voiding is not an option, it’s been reported that would lead to refunds, cancelled contracts etc.

Waiting is all well and good, but the longer the wait, the more problems it causes.

Ending gives certainty, prize money gets paid out and clubs can plan for the eventual resumption next season.

Sure, it’s rough to be relegated with games left, but it’s rougher that many people will die, or lose their jobs.

[Jim44]

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Voiding is not an option, it’s been reported that would lead to refunds, cancelled contracts etc.

Waiting is all well and good, but the longer the wait, the more problems it causes.

Ending gives certainty, prize money gets paid out and clubs can plan for the eventual resumption next season.

Sure, it’s rough to be relegated with games left, but it’s rougher that many people will die, or lose their jobs.

Can’t argue with that.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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That’s how it reads to me. There won’t be any legal challenge. The SPFL will act within their rules which basically allows them to do what they want. Fact is that this decision suits the majority of clubs so it will happen.


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On the premise that if there's one thing above all else that motivates football clubs its self interest I'm struggling a wee bit to see how a decision to cancel the league now and relegate Hearts could suit the majority of clubs.

For a start ending the league now and relegating Hamilton would deny them the chance of a play off the rules state they are entitled to ... 11th isn't an automatic relegation place. If you keep Hamilton up that denies clubs with a real chance of promotion from the championship their chance.

St Johnstone are only a point behind Hibs, but have played a game less ... would they see it as fair if Hibs got a bigger share of the prize pot having played a game more?

For Hibs from a financial point of view having Hearts in the league guarantees us a full away end possibly twice a season, which would be replaced by Dundee Utd's 700 or so away support.

Given all that I'm not so sure as many clubs as folk think would be up for ending the season with placings as they stand now. I would have thought the option to promote Dundee Utd and ICT into a 14 team premier league for at least one season would have been the preferred one .. as I say, purely from a financial self interest POV.

[Dashing Bob S]

Why don’t they just finish this season when they would start the new one, in late July, virus permitting. Then go right into next season but with each team only playing each other twice and finishing up at the same time? All that would happen is that next season would be a shorter one, with 22 games, but a fair one.

[Since452]

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Just watched the BBC interview with A Budge she looks totally wiped out, the news she has been given (relegation) has shattered her she is almost in tears when speaking. Not the emotion of a person who MIGHT get bad news (ie relegation) over next week or two, she HAS been told!

I thought that too. She knows they're down. All over her face.

As much as I despise that shower and think they deserve every bit off Ill fortune they get plus more, I don't like seeing an old woman clearly in an emotional mess like that.

[Springbank]

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Why don’t they just finish this season when they would start the new one, in late July, virus permitting. Then go right into next season but with each team only playing each other twice and finishing up at the same time? All that would happen is that next season would be a shorter one, with 22 games, but a fair one.

They cant just finish off season 19/20 in July because hearts & rangers will have gone bust in March (April at best) IF they dont get prize money before then.

Relegation & accepting 9iar in return for cash, because they outlived their respective means.

[franck sauzee]

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Why don’t they just finish this season when they would start the new one, in late July, virus permitting. Then go right into next season but with each team only playing each other twice and finishing up at the same time? All that would happen is that next season would be a shorter one, with 22 games, but a fair one.

Can't see that happening. How do all the clubs sell season tickets at full price for a season with 8 fewer league games? Also isn't there a term about there being 4 old firms for TV. I reckon this season they'll be fine about losing 1 but they're not gonna want to lose 2 next season

[FilipinoHibs]

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Likewise, don't wish her any ill will personally. She's been paid back so I don't know why she didn't just complete the transfer of ownership as well and get the help out of Dodge. She probably now feels that she can't now leave in the current circumstances and is regretting not leaving as soon as she was repaid.

Still has a £1.9 million loan outstanding and brother owed £750,000.

[Peevemor]

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Can't see that happening. How do all the clubs sell season tickets at full price for a season with 8 fewer league games? Also isn't there a term about there being 4 old firms for TV. I reckon this season they'll be fine about losing 1 but they're not gonna want to lose 2 next season

There can't be, because in theory they're not both guaranteed to finish in the top 6.

[dchibs]

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Bollox, she's always looked like that, shrivelled up baboons arse

[Stokesy's on fire]

it's only fair that they should go down. They deserve it

[FilipinoHibs]

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Just watched the BBC interview with A Budge she looks totally wiped out, the news she has been given (relegation) has shattered her she is almost in tears when speaking. Not the emotion of a person who MIGHT get bad news (ie relegation) over next week or two, she HAS been told!

Yes she let slip the "alternative" of 14 team SPL for a season then changed it to a "suggestion". Yes she has been told Celtic champions and Hearts relegated because 14 team unworkable - 13 × 4 games or 13x3 games plus split games.