The generic Hearts thread

[DaveF]

I ****ing love st mirren 😁

[HoboHarry]

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No need Matty, Promotion and Relegation should be announced in next 48 hours. Clubs already know their individual and collective position. PM (Boris) to announce to public (all agreed with FIFA / UEFA) hich takes onus off the respective football associations and Business Interruption Insurance will kick in (for those that have it, saw somebody had been told one club in SPL does not have it surely no).

The governments everywhere have more on their plate to worry about than who gets relegated from the SPL!!!

This Virus is massive and we are in unprecedented territory, millions will die and EVERYONE's life will change, at least temporarily. Budge/Hertz will not be taking any legal action expect confirmation on league positions within 48 hours.

Millions will die? Where are you getting that from?

[The 90+2]

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I ****ing love st mirren 😁

[hibeerealist]

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Millions will die? Where are you getting that from?

That is worldwide not UK

[truehibernian]

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Totally hypothetical question................

Had Hertz beaten St. Mirren 1-0, instead of losing 1-0, both teams would have been on 26 points with a goal difference of -19, but Hertz would have been above St. Mirren having scored 32 goals to the Saint's 23. I wonder what Ms Budge would have said then.

St. Mirren are fast turning into the nemesis of Hearts capitulating to Celtic in 1986, beating them in the League Cup Final in 2013, and cementing their place at the foot of the table in 2020 and very possibly relegating them.

Can we have black and white stripes as an away kit next season

[Bostonhibby]

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Millions will die? Where are you getting that from?

I thought that's what Budge was saying would happen when Hearts get relegated.

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[hibeerealist]

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I thought that's what Budge was saying would happen when Hearts get relegated.

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lol

[Aldo]

So is Budge going to take the SPFL to court when they don’t get their share of the prize money?? After all by her reckoning the league/season wouldn’t be complete.

If the league is null/void then the SPFL may not have an obligation to pay out any prize money however if it is deemed complete then the clubs will then get what they are due, depending on their league position.

I bet most clubs, whilst not happy, would agree that the season was complete in order to get what was due.

Some fun times ahead I reckon.

FWIW I am also certain that Doncaster and Co will have sought the relevant legal advice prior to making any decision..... wonder Budge fancies taking on FiFA/UEFA too


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[Radium]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/stat...637932032?s=21

Interesting to see if the organisations that concocted the 5-way agreement can find their way through the current period of self interest


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[jacomo]

Budge quoted in the DR that she will take legal action.

She had a chance to act in a dignified manner about all this, but I can see it ending in humiliation for her now.

[The 90+2]

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Budge quoted in the DR that she will take legal action.

She had a chance to act in a dignified manner about all this, but I can see it ending in humiliation for her now.

Yep. At least she has the backing of the huns now.

[HoboHarry]

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Budge quoted in the DR that she will take legal action.

She had a chance to act in a dignified manner about all this, but I can see it ending in humiliation for her now.

Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718

[Frankhfc]

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Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718

Totally agree, appeasing her audience. Taking legal advice and taking legal action are two separate things. The action won't happen.

[Aldo]

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Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718

Or is she doing this and trying to say if you do relegate us regardless of the rules we will screw up the next season with a court case. Maybe trying to force the SPFL etc hand?


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[Skol]

This is not the time for threats of legal action FFS.

This is unprecedented and there is no easy or right answer. Whichever is taken impacts someone.

[Ozyhibby]

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Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718

Seems to admit they are in financial trouble as well?


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[007]

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Seems to admit they are in financial trouble as well?


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Aye, begging bowl is out.

[Frankhfc]

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Seems to admit they are in financial trouble as well?


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Seems so. I wonder if their anonymous donors will be willing to pony up or if they've suddenly found themselves in the financial doo doo also. I'm not gloating over this as I think we're all going to suffer financially to one extent or another.

[Jim44]

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Yep. At least she has the backing of the huns now.

Not quite. Stewart’s statement stops short of threatening legal action. I would be willing to bet that, in the event of UEFA making an unpopular decision for them, neither club will actually begin legal action. They couldn’t afford to lose.

[truehibernian]

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Or is she doing this and trying to say if you do relegate us regardless of the rules we will screw up the next season with a court case. Maybe trying to force the SPFL etc hand?


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Dangerous tactic Aldo - they take legal action could the SFA then say 'well you're not competing in any competition until the case is heard' and lose their place as an associated member....'we'll replace you with Kelty Hearts '. As I understand it, an associated member has to comply with the rules and duties of members as set out by the SFA. One of which is complying with the directives of the Board (SFA).

Say they are relegated and (Hearts) win any legal action (when they are playing in the Championship) - when do they get reinstated and in place of who ?

I honestly think the SFA and SPFL will play safe and restructure for a season or two and they'll avoid relegation.

[Callum_62]

I thought the SFA could decide when a season was finished

Can't find the clause now but said something like 38 games or when the board sees fit to call it season end

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[Mon Dieu4]

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Dangerous tactic Aldo - they take legal action could the SFA then say 'well you're not competing in any competition until the case is heard' and lose their place as an associated member....'we'll replace you with Kelty Hearts '. As I understand it, an associated member has to comply with the rules and duties of members as set out by the SFA. One of which is complying with the directives of the Board (SFA).

Say they are relegated and (Hearts) win any legal action (when they are playing in the Championship) - when do they get reinstated and in place of who ?

I honestly think the SFA and SPFL will play safe and restructure for a season or two and they'll avoid relegation.

Wouldn't imagine they would be reinstated if it went to a court case would more than likely lead to a hefty pay out instead imo

Anyway I thought it was illegal to try and take a a governing body to court?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

"In the current circumstances I hope common sense would prevail and that an exception is made in applying the 15 point deduction. I want Hearts to stay up because we deserve it and we win the points on the pitch"

😕🤯😂

[jacomo]

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Not what she is saying on the BBC - saber rattling for her audience and she likely knows she is on a loser with legal action....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51914718

Not sure how that contradicts with what I posted - one way or the other, she is saying that Hearts will not accept relegation.

Overall, though, I am loving the desperate tone of her comments. She sounds like she is in real trouble.

Bye bye Hearts.

[GreenCastle]

It just had to be the wee huns and huns who are most upset - you couldn’t make it up.

Budge is worried..very worried..

She’s toast if they go down as fans will rapidly turn on her further.

[Aldo]

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Dangerous tactic Aldo - they take legal action could the SFA then say 'well you're not competing in any competition until the case is heard' and lose their place as an associated member....'we'll replace you with Kelty Hearts '. As I understand it, an associated member has to comply with the rules and duties of members as set out by the SFA. One of which is complying with the directives of the Board (SFA).

Say they are relegated and (Hearts) win any legal action (when they are playing in the Championship) - when do they get reinstated and in place of who ?

I honestly think the SFA and SPFL will play safe and restructure for a season or two and they'll avoid relegation.

I know it’s a minefield and slot of supposition and ifs/buts and maybes.

Tbh I’m sure the SPFL/SFA will make sure they have covered all their bases from a legal perspective but why do they (Hearts) have to put a statement out? Appease the hordes.

I really do hope they get relegated but what’s the bet the SPFL screw someone else to save hearts.


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[Aldo]

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Not sure how that contradicts with what I posted - one way or the other, she is saying that Hearts will not accept relegation.

Overall, though, I am loving the desperate tone of her comments. She sounds like she is in real trouble.

Bye bye Hearts.

Reading that article would indicate that they are again living outwith their means and in financial difficulty..... even if they have insurance? Players offering to return wages etc

O and the fans to donate even more to help them.

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[Kato]

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Seems to admit they are in financial trouble as well?


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They could always appeal to the Lithuanian government or some random submarine captain to help them out.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/stat...637932032?s=21

This is weak from Budge. She knows they don’t have a legal leg to stand on.


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[Since452]

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https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/stat...637932032?s=21

This is weak from Budge. She knows they don’t have a legal leg to stand on.


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So she's going to ***** more fans money on a legal case she won't win while there's a stand to finish and high earners to get rid of for the Championship season starting?