The generic Hearts thread

[04Sauzee]

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Hearts being relegated, quick decision being made so end of season payments can be made to help clubs survive.

Give them time to plan for next season. Sensible decision.

[GreenCastle]

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Hearts being relegated, quick decision being made so end of season payments can be made to help clubs survive.

What would happen to 2nd top of league below and Hamilton ?

ICT will be raging they don’t have a chance to go up.

England have to sort their EPL playoffs too...somehow as the money as stake is mega.

[Frankhfc]

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What would happen to 2nd top of league below and Hamilton ?

ICT will be raging they don’t have a chance to go up.

England have to sort their EPL playoffs too...somehow as the money as stake is mega.

Greater good for the benefit of the leagues in general if that happens. Tough times require difficult decisions. Its not ideal but necessary given the extreme circumstances we find ourselves in I'm afraid to say.

[The 90+2]

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What would happen to 2nd top of league below and Hamilton ?

ICT will be raging they don’t have a chance to go up.

England have to sort their EPL playoffs too...somehow as the money as stake is mega.

There’s no guarantee in football that any teams in the playoffs would be promoted. The only guarantee is bottom relegated top promoted.

[G B Young]

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Hearts being relegated, quick decision being made so end of season payments can be made to help clubs survive.

Irrespective of the fact it's the yams going down this is by far the most practical solution. The PM is correct to shut down any arguments about such relative trivialities to focus on the bigger picture.

[bingo70]

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Irrespective of the fact it's the yams going down this is by far the most practical solution. The PM is correct to shut down any arguments about such relative trivialities to focus on the bigger picture.

Hearts fans are going mental about it but if it was Hamilton in their position then I’d bet 99% would probably agree it is a pretty reasonable solution in a very difficult situation.

[007]

Jambos had chance to move off the bottom by beating St Mirren. They blew it with another insipid performance. Looking like it might have effectively been the relegation playoff match.

[GreenCastle]

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Greater good for the benefit of the leagues in general if that happens. Tough times require difficult decisions. Its not ideal but necessary given the extreme circumstances we find ourselves in I'm afraid to say.

So English Championship 3rd goes up and bottom 3 from EPL down ??

Btw I’m all for Hearts getting relegated by any means possible :)

[G B Young]

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Hearts fans are going mental about it but if it was Hamilton in their position then I’d bet 99% would probably agree it is a pretty reasonable solution in a very difficult situation.

Has this news been picked up on kickback yet?

[Frankhfc]

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So English Championship 3rd goes up and bottom 3 from EPL down ??

Btw I’m all for Hearts getting relegated by any means possible :)

I've no idea about the English Championship or what will happen there. My opinion is that the placings should stand as is here in Scotland if no more football is to be played whereby solving most of the critical issues allowing a clean break from this one that's been blighted due to the extremely unfortunate pandemic. Hearts are bottom for a reason and its really just a tough break for them that they currently occupy automatic relegation at the time of the season prematurely ending. Its for the greater good of the Scottish game no more no less.

[Jim44]

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Has this news been picked up on kickback yet?

No. They seem to be pinning their hopes on ‘financial turmoil in Scottish football, with themselves coming out of it in rude health in the top flight.

[bingo70]

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Has this news been picked up on kickback yet?

No idea.

My jambo mates think the idea and article are ridiculous as Johnson and the government will be too busy to worry about Scottish football. Suspect JKB will be along the same lines.

I think league reconstruction is the right and smart move.

I don’t think Hearts can complain about being relegated, they’ve been the worst team in the league, if we aren’t changing the structure of the league then Dundee Utd have to come up and someone had to go down, there’s no question that has to be Hearts.

It’s probably not ideal but neither is the corona virus.

[Jack]

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...celtic-hearts/

Hearts being relegated, quick decision being made so end of season payments can be made to help clubs survive.

I wouldn't trust that rag to give the correct date in their header.

The only precedent we have at the moment is from Chile, where due to civil unrest their league was abandoned 30 matches in to a 36 game season, or thereabouts.

The top side were declared champions, there was no relegation.

Given this is now a worldwide problem but with the epicentre of covid19 and football in Europe I'd expect FIFA to take a lead from whatever UEFA decide.

We'll maybe get something on Tuesday after their meeting. Only kidding - there's not been time for brown envelopes to be dished out.

[The Harp Awakes]

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They haven’t released a statement.

The guy on the radio was saying that based on feedback from his sources that he believed that IF the season can’t be finished that’s how they’d do it.

I heard the discussion on radio too. It was the BBC's Kheridine Itsan and he said the SPFL's current position is: they would prefer fixtures to be concluded but if that is not possible, their preference is for current positions to stand.

[Unseen work]

I don’t see how we can promote teams but not relegate others

For example the teams in the championship have as good an argument for promotion as the top tier teams not being relegated.

[CloudSquall]

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Jambos had chance to move off the bottom by beating St Mirren. They blew it with another insipid performance. Looking like it might have effectively been the relegation playoff match.

If St Mirren effectively ensure Hearts relegation on top of their efforts in 1986 plus the League Cup win under Danny Lennon they should be given a guard of honour every time they grace Easter Road with their presence.

[Skol]

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Hearts fans are going mental about it but if it was Hamilton in their position then I’d bet 99% would probably agree it is a pretty reasonable solution in a very difficult situation.

There was even a thread on kickback promoting this strategy if they beat st Mirren and moved above them

[Dashing Bob S]

The virus is a serious thing and should be beyond football. Consigning Hearts to relegation is surely a small price to pay. In fact it’s a non existent price. Okay, it’s a bonus. Oh come on. it’s a gilt-edged stone-cold premium.

[TheHarpy76]

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Hearts fans are going mental about it but if it was Hamilton in their position then I’d bet 99% would probably agree it is a pretty reasonable solution in a very difficult situation.

As would we if we were in their position.

Let’s be honest here. We wouldn’t be nearly as pragmatic if it was us in their position.

[ScottB]

At this point, football is one of the hot topics, but it depends what happens. If this virus largely peters out, then the rage and fury about the season and how it should end will ramp up. If it drags on for months and hundreds of thousands at minimum die, you’d think people will largely stop caring.

It would be ideal to finish the season, if they can’t, it should count from where it was. I think that’s the only position that can be held legally without potentially voiding season tickets, sponsors contracts, the tv deal etc. Then attention will need to shift towards next season, what format should it take if it can’t start on time etc.

Also, a Europe wide position on this would be preferable, if some leagues void, some stop, some have no relegation that’s going to make things even more awkward.

[Hibs4185]

It would be nice if there was a former hibs chairman in charge of the SFA making a decision whether or not to relegate the yams....

C’mon the tache, you know it makes sense!

[TheHarpy76]

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It would be nice if there was a former hibs chairman in charge of the SFA making a decision whether or not to relegate the yams....

C’mon the tache, you know it makes sense!

Would it be up to each individual football association to decide how to play it or would UEFA have the final say?

Genuine question.

[lord bunberry]

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As would we if we were in their position.

Let’s be honest here. We wouldn’t be nearly as pragmatic if it was us in their position.

That’s very true, but we’re not in their position so let’s just get on with relegating them

[Hibs4185]

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Would it be up to each individual football association to decide how to play it or would UEFA have the final say?

Genuine question.

I don’t think anybody knows. I doubt whether a blanket decision from UEFA would keep every association happy.

In the UK we may be a little easier considering Liverpool and Celtic are pretty far ahead and we only have a quarter of games left. Other leagues may be a point or two with games in hand for chasing teams etc.

In the UK, it’s an absolute no brainer for me to declare Celtic and Liverpool winners and relegate hearts. Haven’t looked at the English relegation fight but ultimately there is no solution to keep every team in Europe happy so there has to be a compromise somewhere and current positions seems to be the simplest way.

[TheHarpy76]

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That’s very true, but we’re not in their position so let’s just get on with relegating them

Aye, that’s very true 😂😂

[Rumble de Thump]

Hearts have been abysmal all season. To be beneath the likes of St Mirren and Hamilton at this stage of the season highlights how awful they are. They deserve to go down.

[Aldo]

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Hearts fans are going mental about it but if it was Hamilton in their position then I’d bet 99% would probably agree it is a pretty reasonable solution in a very difficult situation.

This.

We are forgetting that in the SPL there are teams still in the hunt for Europe and top 6 and that means more money so the implications of this postponement are not just affecting those winning or being relegated.


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[HibbySpurs]

I think the decision will be taken early as some teams especially Hearts are likely to launch some sort of legal challenge against the decision but if the league believes their rules have them covered they’ll go for it early to get any challenge dismissed so the new season can commence in good time.

Just my thinking though.

[KeithTheHibby]

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The virus is a serious thing and should be beyond football. Consigning Hearts to relegation is surely a small price to pay. In fact it’s a non existent price. Okay, it’s a bonus. Oh come on. it’s a gilt-edged stone-cold premium.

😂😂

[007]

A big benefit to ending the season now with current placings standing is they can payout the prize money, which some clubs will desperately need and could be the difference between their survival and them going bust.

If it goes to a vote does it not need to be a 11-1 minimum majority to be passed? You could expect Hearts to be against it and possibly Rangers. The only other team that might have a grievance could be Aberdeen for the guaranteed Euro spot for 3rd though they'll qualify if they or Celtic win the cup. Can't see the cup getting scrapped but if it did then the final Euro spot would go to Aberdeen for 4th place. Wouldn't think Aberdeen would block it but wouldn't be surprised if it was Rangers who did.