The generic Hearts thread

[Steven79]

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Can Hamilton get a win or 2 before the split? They seem pretty hopeless too and this might be what saves Hearts in terms of automatic relegation. Their pre-split fixtures are:

Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Ross County (A)
Hibs (H)

If they can get even one win from those 4 fixtures (hopefully not against us) that should see them above Hearts going into the split and then they will face Hearts at home in a potential relegation decider

Them winning at Ibrox is a win, win situation...

[Kato]

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If Hibs get into Europe, progress in the cup to the semis/final and we see Hearts and Hamilton relegated, is that the best season ever?

Nope

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[Since452]

I hope they draw with Rangers on Saturday. Another fixture to add to the list would be worse than a defeat for them

[B.H.F.C]

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Can Hamilton get a win or 2 before the split? They seem pretty hopeless too and this might be what saves Hearts in terms of automatic relegation. Their pre-split fixtures are:

Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Ross County (A)
Hibs (H)

If they can get even one win from those 4 fixtures (hopefully not against us) that should see them above Hearts going into the split and then they will face Hearts at home in a potential relegation decider

Hamilton also have St Johnstone away.

I don’t think that’s too bad a run of fixtures for them. They will dig a result out somewhere in amongst that lot.

[Springbank]

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I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.

Two way fight between Hearts and Hamilton for 11th now IMO. Which is ideal as I’d like them both relegated.

I think the best/most composed midfielder out of the bottom three teams is the Saints captain & no16 Foley

Foley's also the best leader of any of the bottom 3, a real leader, unlike Naismith who comes across as more of a gobby wee bully, which is a disaster for morale & totally counter productive when you're already in the shXt as a team.

I reckon the best defender out of the bottom three teams is Gogic of Hamilton

I reckon the most dangerous creative player out of the bottom 3 is Durmis, the Saints winger (matchwinner last night & gave SDG a torrid time at ER)

Boyce is the best predator, but that's not much use if you can't get the ball to him in the opposition's box often enough.

I think Hearts are going down here

[Ozyhibby]

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I think the best/most composed midfielder out of the bottom three teams is the Saints captain & no16 Foley

Foley's also the best leader of any of the bottom 3, a real leader, unlike Naismith who comes across as more of a gobby wee bully, which is a disaster for morale & totally counter productive when you're already in the shXt as a team.

I reckon the best defender out of the bottom three teams is Gogic of Hamilton

I reckon the most dangerous creative player out of the bottom 3 is Durmis, the Saints winger (matchwinner last night & gave SDG a torrid time at ER)

Boyce is the best predator, but that's not much use if you can't get the ball to him in the opposition's box often enough.

I think Hearts are going down here

Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.


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[JeMeSouviens]

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Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so

Falkirk went in to the 2008/9 split at the bottom, 4 points behind ICT and 6 behind Hamilton, St Mirren and Killie. They got 10 points post split including beating ICT on the last day to catch both them and St Mirren.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.


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A heavy defeat at ER and they might just have enough cover to bin him and get someone (Locke?) to go for the desperate rescue mission. I think that's their best hope tbh.

[Hibbyradge]

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Its weird, the further Hearts get adrift from safety the more some Hibs fans seem to think they will survive. I just dont get it. They have won 3 games all season and look absolutely dreadful. They are up against 2 teams who are used to being in this position. I personally think they are doomed. They look every single bit the relegated team.

It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.

You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.

Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.

If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.

Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.

[Sudds_1]

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Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.


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Such blasphemy!!! Dont you know he's the new messiah? 😇😇

[Hibbyradge]

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It’s not in their own hands though is it ? If they win all there games and Hamilton and at Mirren above them do the same minus the hearts game they still finish second bottom.

And the likelihood of them suddenly winning even 5 or 6 games after only winning 3 al year is highly unlikely.

It is in their own hands.

They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.

[Barman Stanton]

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It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.

You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.

Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 1 point behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.

If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.

Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.

I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.

[FilipinoHibs]

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It is in their own hands.

They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.

Of their six remaining games before the split only one is really winnable with some certainty not to say they might pick more points - Ross County at home.

They would have to win 4 out if 5 of their post split fixtures to stand a chance of avoiding the play off with two of those games likely to relegation dog fights. Seems a tall order with them having won only 3 games this season.

[G B Young]

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I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.

I'm not sure I'd see it as sticking up for Hearts. More a case of finding it hard to believe that with all the cash they've had thrown at them that they won't find a way to scrape clear of the drop. Doesn't mean we don't all see them as utterly pathetic for finding themselves in this situation.

Personally I suspect they may just creep ahead of Accies, but as the games count down and the likes of St Mirren and Ross County start to pull away I'm finding it hard to see them do any more than that. Play-off would be my bet at this stage. Hopefully I'm wrong though and straight relegation awaits them.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.

If they had more quality they wouldn't currently be bottom and three matches adrift of 10th safety.

There was an old sitcom on ITV called "Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width" some of us aging Boomers might remember. Well they have neither the quality nor the width

[Hibbyradge]

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I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.

Bugger off with the stick up for hearts rubbish. Are the bookies sticking up for hearts?

No, if course not. No-one is sticking up for anyone. We're crystal ball gazing.

I choose to have nothing to do with hearts supporters either in person or online so fill your boots if that's your thing.

No-one is stopping you.

[Barman Stanton]

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I'm not sure I'd see it as sticking up for Hearts. More a case of finding it hard to believe that with all the cash they've had thrown at them that they won't find a way to scrape clear of the drop. Doesn't mean we don't all see them as utterly pathetic for finding themselves in this situation.

Personally I suspect they may just creep ahead of Accies, but as the games count down and the likes of St Mirren and Ross County start to pull away I'm finding it hard to see them do any more than that. Play-off would be my bet at this stage. Hopefully I'm wrong though and straight relegation awaits them.

I think people are more looking at the past and the size of the club, and not taking into account how bad they are.

I just think its a bit of a slight on the mentality of Hibs fans that we assume Hearts will be safe and indeed beat us in the game coming up (as some have said). You wouldn't get this from Hearts fans, who always see us as dreadful regardless of the situation. I would like us to have a similar mentality towards them. And I started going in the 80s so I do understand why we think the way we do. But they are bad at the moment, really bad.

[Barman Stanton]

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Bugger off with the stick up for hearts rubbish. Are the bookies sticking up for hearts?

No, if course not. No-one is sticking up for anyone. We're crystal ball gazing.

I choose to have nothing to do with hearts supporters either in person or online so fill your boots if that's your thing.

No-one is stopping you.

Iv tried to explain what I mean a little more above. Anyway I will leave it at that. Certainly dont want to argue with fellow Hibs fans.

[B.H.F.C]

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If they had more quality they wouldn't currently be bottom and three matches adrift of 10th safety.

There was an old sitcom on ITV called "Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width" some of us aging Boomers might remember. Well they have neither the quality nor the width

I said St Mirren have more quality than the other two. Not Hearts.

[Cataplana]

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It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.

You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.

Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.

If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.

Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.

I think I'll have some of that.

[where'stheslope]

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It is in their own hands.

They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.

The difference is, both ST Mirren and Hamilton are used to fighting relegation on a near yearly basis!
So it must be worth at least a couple of points over the big team, who are usually winning the league in September!!!!!

[Hibbyradge]

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Iv tried to explain what I mean a little more above. Anyway I will leave it at that. Certainly dont want to argue with fellow Hibs fans.

Maybe I should have said that there's a difference between what I want to happen and what I think is mostly likely.

[Since452]

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Falkirk went in to the 2008/9 split at the bottom, 4 points behind ICT and 6 behind Hamilton, St Mirren and Killie. They got 10 points post split including beating ICT on the last day to catch both them and St Mirren.

Good info! Never knew that

[Since452]

If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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I said St Mirren have more quality than the other two. Not Hearts.

If I've misread you apologies but there are a couple of other pisters who replied who read your pisy the way I did

[banchoryhibs]

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If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?

A very stupid one

[Barman Stanton]

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Maybe I should have said that there's a difference between what I want to happen and what I think is mostly likely.

I knew what you meant mate. Saying sticking up for them was not really what I was meaning. Im sure we all want the same thing

[KingPat4]

St Mirren have developed into a decent looking side, far better than Hearts, reckon they'll take at least 4 out of the 6 points.

But I reckon Hamilton will finish bottom, can't see them pulling away with the games they have left.

Hope it's Dundee they face in the play offs. Can you imagine Robbo and ICT sending them down? He would bottle it.

[Killiehibbie]

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It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.

You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.

Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.

If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.

Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.

Skybet being so far out of line from other bookies have created a nice dutch with a 15% profit.

[hibbysam]

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It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.

You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.

Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.

If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.

Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.

Where are you getting 11/2?

That would be the worst book in history... 8/11 and 11/2 with presumably bigger the rest 😂

I’m seeing 8/11 accies, 5/2 hearts and 7/2 st mirren.