Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[matty_f]

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In terms of Sporting Integrity I want them to go on winning nothing for as long as possible
It’s the only thing now that gets to them
They keep thinking g they are back but the longer they go without winning anything it confirms they aren’t Even if they are the best of the rest


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[jacomo]

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If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.

Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.


Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.


I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.

If they had resisted playing the victim card, shown some humility, not been bought by glib and shameless liars, not hired Jim Traynor, and generally been a whole lot less obnoxious, they might have created a more attractive Phoenix from the flames story and attracted the investment to take Celtc on.

The constant ranting and claims of injustice show that they might be a new club but they’ve learnt nothing.

[FilipinoHibs]

With £35.4 million of directors debt converted to equity, £11.4 million losses last season and needing £10 million to keep Rangers running to the end of the season, how much are they willing to blow to stop 10 in a row? Will they make wholesale changes - sack Gerrard and sell Morelos? What about the long term contracts of ageing players? Who would they bring in ? How much would it cost? £50 million more needs to be blown for a serious challenge but one that would have no guarantee of success. Going to be good to watch.

[JimBHibees]

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If they had resisted playing the victim card, shown some humility, not been bought by glib and shameless liars, not hired Jim Traynor, and generally been a whole lot less obnoxious, they might have created a more attractive Phoenix from the flames story and attracted the investment to take Celtc on.

The constant ranting and claims of injustice show that they might be a new club but they’ve learnt nothing.

Totally agree if they had come back and actually apologised for cheating to everyone in the game and started back not employing dodgy owners and directors who clearly pandered to the Neanderthal element of their support they might have had more empathy from others in the game. Unfortunately they can't help with the attitude of superiority and entitlement that club has running through its veins.

In many ways they are worse as they convince themselves they have been done over. Can remember an interview with the ex manager who is only referred to by his first name, Walter. He was going on about not forgetting who had put the boot into them apparently when they were down on their luck.

[Ozyhibby]

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With £35.4 million of directors debt converted to equity, £11.4 million losses last season and needing £10 million to keep Rangers running to the end of the season, how much are they willing to blow to stop 10 in a row? Will they make wholesale changes - sack Gerrard and sell Morelos? What about the long term contracts of ageing players? Who would they bring in ? How much would it cost? £50 million more needs to be blown for a serious challenge but one that would have no guarantee of success. Going to be good to watch.

There is no evidence that the money is even there to continue as they are never mind invest more. Could be an interesting summer.


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[Gloucester Hibs]

They'd be bonkers to sack Gerrard, they've shown year on year improvement under him and I'd give them a 50/50 chance of stopping 10 in a row if he stays for another season. Unfortunately for the Huns I reckon he'll be offsky in the summer while his stock is still pretty high.

[Ozyhibby]

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They'd be bonkers to sack Gerrard, they've shown year on year improvement under him and I'd give them a 50/50 chance of stopping 10 in a row if he stays for another season. Unfortunately for the Huns I reckon he'll be offsky in the summer while his stock is still pretty high.

They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.


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[Gloucester Hibs]

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They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.


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Didn't realise that. Their performances against us, Celtic, and in Europe - which is pretty much the only games of theirs I've seen - are definitely an improvement on last season IMO.

[Hibs4185]

Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation

[Steven79]

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Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation

I wouldn't be taking a cheque from them...

[Rumble de Thump]

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Didn't realise that. Their performances against us, Celtic, and in Europe - which is pretty much the only games of theirs I've seen - are definitely an improvement on last season IMO.

Probably has more to do with the tens of millions of pounds they've overspent by rather than Gerrard.

[Smartie]

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I wouldn't be taking a cheque from them...

We should help our friends in the West by relieving them of the burden of having to pay Greg Docherty’s wages.

[Ozyhibby]

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Probably has more to do with the tens of millions of pounds they've overspent by rather than Gerrard.

Yip. Their wage bill has doubled under Gerrard. He has brought more in because of the Euro runs but it is not enough.


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[stuart-farquhar]

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You're doing well then - I've been living half of the year in the USA for the past 3 years (just south of the Bay Area) and I see them from time to time whenever I'm up in San Fran. More Tims though for some reason.

Either are nauseating.

Never seen any myself. Although saw a car with an Arsenal plate on the 101 recently near Petaluma.

[jacomo]

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Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation

£2m + Doherty and it’s a deal.

It’s ok though, because the Zombies believe in Kamberi and think they can turn him into the £30m player that Morelos obviously isn’t.

[BILLYHIBS]

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£2m + Doherty and it’s a deal.

It’s ok though, because the Zombies believe in Kamberi and think they can turn him into the £30m player that Morelos obviously isn’t.

Freddos discipline lets him down

Looks as though it will always be a problem for him

Management and colleagues have spoken to him about it and it’s affect on the team but it is still there

He can’t help himself

[JeMeSouviens]

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They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.


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Celtic have improved a fair bit since last year though. I think Sevco have got better but the gap is similar.

From Gerrard's pov, he has probably done ok reputationally so far but still has nothing tangible to show for it and no realistic prospect of the sort of money to spend that would get his squad up to par with Celtic's. If he's smart and gets an offer down south then this summer might be a good time to move for him.

They'll only sack him if the Huns lose faith and ST renewals drop.

[FilipinoHibs]

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Celtic have improved a fair bit since last year though. I think Sevco have got better but the gap is similar.

From Gerrard's pov, he has probably done ok reputationally so far but still has nothing tangible to show for it and no realistic prospect of the sort of money to spend that would get his squad up to par with Celtic's. If he's smart and gets an offer down south then this summer might be a good time to move for him.

They'll only sack him if the Huns lose faith and ST renewals drop.

They need to stop 10 in a row. Gerrard looks like he can't do it. They need a Wim Jansen type of appointment. With four years left on his contract probably a £2 million pay off would do it. Probably a global whip round of Orangemen to raise money for a Stop 10 in a Row.

[JeMeSouviens]

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They need to stop 10 in a row. Gerrard looks like he can't do it. They need a Wim Jansen type of appointment. With four years left on his contract probably a £2 million pay off would do it. Probably a global whip round of Orangemen to raise money for a Stop 10 in a Row.

Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful.

[Hibs Class]

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Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful.

Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season

[Ozyhibby]

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Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season

Wonder if Celtic will get to 55 before them?


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[hibbyfraelibby]

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Wonder if Celtic will get to 55 before them?


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Well as the earliest "they" could reach 55 is 2076 I reckon there's a good chance.

[Keith_M]

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There is no evidence that the money is even there to continue as they are never mind invest more. Could be an interesting summer.


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I'd imagine they'll use the income from next season's Season Tickets to get them through this season.

That seems to be standard practice for them.

[JohnMcM]

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Well as the earliest "they" could reach 55 is 2076 I reckon there's a good chance.

2076!

I won't see that then. I'll have been dead for nigh on 50 years I reckon.����

Still got time to see us lift the big cup again though.��

[jacomo]

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Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful.

We’re gonna win the league next season with Jack Ross at the wheel.

Celtc and Rearrangerz will be left in our wake.

[Is It On....]

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Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season

Surely you meant 10th anniversary? 🙂

[InchHibby]

Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Surely you meant 10th anniversary? 🙂

Nah, to be fair, it will be Rangers' 150th anniversary. Shame they won't be alive to see others celebrating it.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.

Funnily enough, I don't remember any Rangers fans saying that from 1989-97 and most of them support Sevco now.

For the rest of us. If you support any of horses 3-12, wtf does it matter if it's a 1 horse or 2 horse race?

[Geo_1875]

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Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.

The pundits kept saying Scottish football needed Rangers in the league to challenge Celtc. That's going well, isn't it.